Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

Waffletraktor

X6.430macman wrote: »

Farm where I'm at had a Massey combine out on demo yesterday, would put up a pic if I was anyway half tech savvy, serious bit of kit with a 12mtr header and 650hp apparently, just a pity the air con had already quit!!

9t from chandlers?

Base price

Advice please

OH's birthday is coming up soon and I was thinking of getting him a impact wrench/driver thingie as a present. I reckon either a half or three quarter inch drive would suit as it would be used mainly to open wheel studs, nuts and bolts on the tractor/digger/machinery instead of swinging out of a bar with 5' of scaffolding tube at the other end.
Would a pneumatic one work off the air compressor outlet on the lorry as it's piped for a drag trailer or should I look at a battery one. Also how much would one of them cost.

Thanks in advance.

Base price

Base price wrote: »

Advice please

OH's birthday is coming up soon and I was thinking of getting him a impact wrench/driver thingie as a present. I reckon either a half or three quarter inch drive would suit as it would be used mainly to open wheel studs, nuts and bolts on the tractor/digger/machinery instead of swinging out of a bar with 5' of scaffolding tube at the other end.
Would a pneumatic one work off the air compressor outlet on the lorry as it's piped for a drag trailer or should I look at a battery one. Also how much would one of them cost.

Thanks in advance.

https://www.thedandys.ie/product/hikoki-hitachi-36v-12-brushless-impact-wrench-hkwr36db


Have this in work,will eat the top of range e750 milwalkee battery guns,several times over


Any nut/bolt or it baulked at.....took heat or 12ft pipe on 3/4 socket

Gawddawggonnit

Base price wrote: »

Advice please

OH's birthday is coming up soon and I was thinking of getting him a impact wrench/driver thingie as a present. I reckon either a half or three quarter inch drive would suit as it would be used mainly to open wheel studs, nuts and bolts on the tractor/digger/machinery instead of swinging out of a bar with 5' of scaffolding tube at the other end.
Would a pneumatic one work off the air compressor outlet on the lorry as it's piped for a drag trailer or should I look at a battery one. Also how much would one of them cost.

Thanks in advance.

No good trying to work an air gun off the the tanks or compressor of a lorry Base.

Invest in a battery powered impact gun. Milwaukee would be the preferable choice. Go for 3/4 drive and something with over 1750nm of torque...he (or she) will be forever in your gratitude, trust me.
Expect to pay €750+.

Base price

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.thedandys.ie/product/hikoki-hitachi-36v-12-brushless-impact-wrench-hkwr36db


Have this in work,will each the top of range e750 milwalkee battery guns,several times over


Any nut/bolt or it baulked at.....took heat or 12ft pipe on 3/4 socket

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

No good trying to work an air gun off the the tanks or compressor of a lorry Base.

Invest in a battery powered impact gun. Milwaukee would be the preferable choice. Go for 3/4 drive and something with over 1750nm of torque...he (or she) will be forever in your gratitude, trust me.
Expect to pay €750+.

Thanks lads but tbh I didn't think I'd have to spend that sort of money - I'm not saying he's not worth it but I reckon he/me will manage swinging outta the 5' scaffolding bar for a another few years.
If ye have less expensive birthday present suggestions then please let me know cause I'm running out of ideas.

On the flip side, I might just buy him a fly rod and teach him how to fly fish although I reckon the fish will stay safe enough in the lake

Dinzee Conlee

Base price wrote: »

Thanks lads but tbh I didn't think I'd have to spend that sort of money - I'm not saying he's not worth it but I reckon he/me will manage swinging outta the 5' scaffolding bar for a another few years.
If ye have less expensive birthday present suggestions then please let me know cause I'm running out of ideas.

On the flip side, I might just buy him a fly rod and teach him how to fly fish although I reckon the fish will stay safe enough in the lake

I know little of mechanical things - but the swinging off the bar make me think of one them torque multiplier yokes... Seen a lad use one here to take off a wheel off, when I was expecting the scaffolding bar treatment...

I’ll put it out there and let other say whether they’re any good or not...

Like this (I dunno if this is a good brand or example now or not)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hardcastle-Torque-Multiplier-Wrench-Set/dp/B011P3QQBW/ref=asc_df_B011P3QQBW/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=226613731662&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2604959948953197973&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20475&hvtargid=pla-711440882584&psc=1

Base price

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

I know little of mechanical things - but the swinging off the bar make me think of one them torque multiplier yokes... Seen a lad use one here to take off a wheel off, when I was expecting the scaffolding bar treatment...

I’ll put it out there and let other say whether they’re any good or not...

Like this (I dunno if this is a good brand or example now or not)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hardcastle-Torque-Multiplier-Wrench-Set/dp/B011P3QQBW/ref=asc_df_B011P3QQBW/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=226613731662&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2604959948953197973&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20475&hvtargid=pla-711440882584&psc=1

Thanks, tbh I've never seen one of them used but it looks like a cheaper option. As you said, see what the other's say about them as I don't have a clue.

timple23

Base price wrote: »

Advice please

OH's birthday is coming up soon and I was thinking of getting him a impact wrench/driver thingie as a present. I reckon either a half or three quarter inch drive would suit as it would be used mainly to open wheel studs, nuts and bolts on the tractor/digger/machinery instead of swinging out of a bar with 5' of scaffolding tube at the other end.
Would a pneumatic one work off the air compressor outlet on the lorry as it's piped for a drag trailer or should I look at a battery one. Also how much would one of them cost.

Thanks in advance.

https://www.toolsense.co.uk/dewalt-dcf899p2-18v-brushless-3-sp-high-torque-wrench.html

This is an affordable bit of kit. Only sorry I didn't buy one sooner. Can expand tool kit by buying bare units, eg cordless angle grinder. If you have a VAT number you can use it when ordering online, Does it have to be your own VAT number?

If you want a cheaper present a torque wrench or cordless battery angle grinder.

Tools are 20-30% cheaper ordering from UK, even more if you have a VAT number.

emaherx

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

I know little of mechanical things - but the swinging off the bar make me think of one them torque multiplier yokes... Seen a lad use one here to take off a wheel off, when I was expecting the scaffolding bar treatment...

I’ll put it out there and let other say whether they’re any good or not...

Like this (I dunno if this is a good brand or example now or not)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hardcastle-Torque-Multiplier-Wrench-Set/dp/B011P3QQBW/ref=asc_df_B011P3QQBW/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=226613731662&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2604959948953197973&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20475&hvtargid=pla-711440882584&psc=1

Thats a better option than a cheap air impact gun. I bought one a few years ago and have yet to find a stud it wouldn't crack, and much better than the scaffold tubes. The cheap air gun is usefull then for spinning of the nut once the nut is cracked open.

I know nothing of the brand in the link, but any I've seen have been unknown brands anyway.

blue5000

emaherx wrote: »

Thats a better option than a cheap air impact gun. I bought one a few years ago and have yet to find a stud it wouldn't crack, and much better than the scaffold tubes. The cheap air gun is usefull then for spinning of the nut once the nut is cracked open.

I know nothing of the brand in the link, but any I've seen have been unknown brands anyway.

+1

That's good value, the few sockets in the box would be a tenner each around here. I use one but you need space to work it, a cordless would be lighter and tidier.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1311.R1.TR8.TRC2.A0.H0.Xtorque+mul.TRS0&_nkw=torque+multiplier&_sacat=0
Look at the price of the 9th one down:P

Another great option for a pressie is a Leatherman multitool if he hasn't got one already. Wouldn't open any wheel nuts though.

charlesodowd

Base price wrote: »

Advice please

OH's birthday is coming up soon and I was thinking of getting him a impact wrench/driver thingie as a present. I reckon either a half or three quarter inch drive would suit as it would be used mainly to open wheel studs, nuts and bolts on the tractor/digger/machinery instead of swinging out of a bar with 5' of scaffolding tube at the other end.
Would a pneumatic one work off the air compressor outlet on the lorry as it's piped for a drag trailer or should I look at a battery one. Also how much would one of them cost.

Thanks in advance.

Is he set up on a cordless platform?

i.e. Does he have batteries and a charger for a particular brand?

If so check out that brands offering in impact wrench, 1/2 inch 18V would suffice for most routine farming work.

If not then I wouldn't buy one as you'd be tying him to that brand (plus you'd have to buy batteries and charger which could easily run a few hundred euro)

I picked up a Makita DTW285Z recently for around the 150-200 mark, able to do all I need it to.The other tools linked here are for what one would consider semi-professional or professional use. Unless you are making money using them, it's a significant inventment.

A set of deep sockets also a must, if using impact wrench.

Mooooo

tractorporn wrote: »

Yeah they will only do 20k but can be towed behind a jeep. I have a demo booked in for this winter I've a very narrow passageway here 9'9" and I reckon that's the narrowest machine out there.

I think the next model up is it the 5522? is 6ft wide as well but can lift the 2 tonne? May be worth a look at if in budget as the extra tonne capacity can make a difference even safety wise

tractorporn

Mooooo wrote: »

I think the next model up is it the 5522? is 6ft wide as well but can lift the 2 tonne? May be worth a look at if in budget as the extra tonne capacity can make a difference even safety wise

The 4512 is a full foot narrower than the 5522. If I thought I could get away with it I'd go with the bigger one. I've attached a pic as you can see theres not a whole lot of room to work with.

Mooooo

tractorporn wrote: »

The 4512 is a full foot narrower than the 5522. If I thought I could get away with it I'd go with the bigger one. I've attached a pic as you can see theres not a whole lot of room to work with.

She's tight alright! Have a 12 ft passage here and find it a pain with an old jcb 412.

tractorporn

Mooooo wrote: »

She's tight alright! Have a 12 ft passage here and find it a pain with an old jcb 412.

12 ft would be like feeding in the yard here. We had to adjust the pillars when we bought that tractor as the joiners at the top were hitting the top of the cab on the right hand side.

I think the 4512 would have enough lift capacity it's more than the loader has atm at 1.2 ton and the idea of a euro hitch so no adapter plate would keep the weight down.

Panch18

tractorporn wrote: »

12 ft would be like feeding in the yard here. We had to adjust the pillars when we bought that tractor as the joiners at the top were hitting the top of the cab on the right hand side.

I think the 4512 would have enough lift capacity it's more than the loader has atm at 1.2 ton and the idea of a euro hitch so no adapter plate would keep the weight down.

Would you be better going with a articulated loader like a JCB 220 or the equivalent Wiedmanan or Schaffer?

Those smaller artics would turn on a sixpence

Morris Moss

tractorporn wrote: »

The 4512 is a full foot narrower than the 5522. If I thought I could get away with it I'd go with the bigger one. I've attached a pic as you can see theres not a whole lot of room to work with.

A pivot steer is what you need, I've a weidemann 5080t, I've a narrower passage than your 1 and it's no problem to use, no need to sprong any silage either, just push it in with the grab or bucket

X6.430macman

Waffletraktor wrote:

9t from chandlers?

9t from TNS... Manns brought out an 8800 yesterday for a couple hours, had a Macdon style flex head. 7xl auger on the claas which looks insane behind the combine, Both machines well able to move along in wheat, sounds like the guys were more impressed with the ideal

roosterman71

Stumbled across this video today while looking at something completely different. Brilliant 18 minutes spent looking at the work. And as a man with a Nuffield it made me even more engrossed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owPPDj_oH8s

Buford T. Justice XIX

Morris Moss wrote: »

A pivot steer is what you need, I've a weidemann 5080t, I've a narrower passage than your 1 and it's no problem to use, no need to sprong any silage either, just push it in with the grab or bucket

I've been looking for a handy telescopic loader for a while now but I was seriously impressed with a few that had crab steer so I moved away from looking at the pivot steer models.

I may live to regret saying that now:D

Morris Moss

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

I've been looking for a handy telescopic loader for a while now but I was seriously impressed with a few that had crab steer so I moved away from looking at the pivot steer models.

I may live to regret saying that now:D

Kramer are a brilliant loader anyway, looked at one here before we got the Weidemann, but four wheel steer pushing up silage would have been lethal.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Morris Moss wrote: »

Kramer are a brilliant loader anyway, looked at one here before we got the Weidemann, but four wheel steer pushing up silage would have been lethal.

She'll only be feeding and cleaning here. The contractor has better machines for silage than I'd be able to afford.

9935452

blue5000 wrote: »

+1

That's good value, the few sockets in the box would be a tenner each around here. I use one but you need space to work it, a cordless would be lighter and tidier.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1311.R1.TR8.TRC2.A0.H0.Xtorque+mul.TRS0&_nkw=torque+multiplier&_sacat=0
Look at the price of the 9th one down:P

Another great option for a pressie is a Leatherman multitool if he hasn't got one already. Wouldn't open any wheel nuts though.

+1 on the torque multiplier.
Ive a few of the inch drive ones that came with the 6 sockets. All the common sizes in one box.
Very good value .

Mooooo

Morris Moss wrote: »

A pivot steer is what you need, I've a weidemann 5080t, I've a narrower passage than your 1 and it's no problem to use, no need to sprong any silage either, just push it in with the grab or bucket

How do you find the weidemann? What size shear grab have you on it and what can she lift?

Morris Moss

Mooooo wrote: »

How do you find the weidemann? What size shear grab have you on it and what can she lift?

Brilliant, it'll go place you'd never even dream of getting a tractor or even a bigger loader, the shear grab is 5'2 but the reason for that is the narrow passage, it'd handle a bigger one no problem, the most I've ever lifted was a pallet of fert, so 2 tonnes.

raypallas

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

I know little of mechanical things - but the swinging off the bar make me think of one them torque multiplier yokes... Seen a lad use one here to take off a wheel off, when I was expecting the scaffolding bar treatment...

I’ll put it out there and let other say whether they’re any good or not...

Like this (I dunno if this is a good brand or example now or not)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hardcastle-Torque-Multiplier-Wrench-Set/dp/B011P3QQBW/ref=asc_df_B011P3QQBW/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=226613731662&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2604959948953197973&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=20475&hvtargid=pla-711440882584&psc=1

Borrowed one of those torque multipliers lately
to take the back wheel off a tractor, a super job. It was a 1 inch drive, think the ratio was about 1:56. You'd be looking at about the 250 mark for a good one I'd say

zetecescort

roosterman71 wrote: »

Stumbled across this video today while looking at something completely different. Brilliant 18 minutes spent looking at the work. And as a man with a Nuffield it made me even more engrossed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owPPDj_oH8s

Youtube is great for stuff like that alright. I'm sure there's another one on potatoes with Nuffields

9935452

raypallas wrote: »

Borrowed one of those torque multipliers lately
to take the back wheel off a tractor, a super job. It was a 1 inch drive, think the ratio was about 1:56. You'd be looking at about the 250 mark for a good one I'd say

Ive a cheap one for years and never had an issue with it . It cost 50 euro
They wont get used a huge amount.
Only if the inch air gun fails to open a stud which is extremely rare . I have a selection of cp guns on a compresser running 140 psi.
The other time its used is changing wheels in the field where no compresser is available .

tractorporn

Morris Moss wrote: »

A pivot steer is what you need, I've a weidemann 5080t, I've a narrower passage than your 1 and it's no problem to use, no need to sprong any silage either, just push it in with the grab or bucket

I saw a 5080t in Wilson's the last time I was up in Ballymena and I had ruled it out as it looked too big on the ground. I'll have another look and see if I can get one on demo. You see the odd pivot steer second hand too which could be a cheaper option.

Morris Moss

tractorporn wrote: »

I saw a 5080t in Wilson's the last time I was up in Ballymena and I had ruled it out as it looked too big on the ground. I'll have another look and see if I can get one on demo. You see the odd pivot steer second hand too which could be a cheaper option.

Yeah getting a demo is your best option, even the smaller pivot models would be a good bit more powerful than the 4512, only thing is their hard got second hand.