Werewolf - Winter Is Here - Game of Thrones II Game Thread

Triceratops Ballet

When you play the Game of Thrones you win, or you die…..

The Seven Kingdoms are in a fractured state, with each region loyal to its own lords and little consensus on upon whose head the crown should sit.



In the Capital and the Westerlands, Lannister gold makes loyal subjects rich and Lannister men silence the dissenters. Cersei of the House Lannister, First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals and the First Men, Protector of the Seven Kingdoms, sits on the Iron throne having seized it upon the death of her youngest son Tommen of House Baratheon. Cersei holds court with her twin brother Jaime, and her personal bodyguard Ser Gregor Clegane, The Mountain, who keeps order and crushes those who seek to harm his Queen, both by her side.

In the most Northerly of the seven kingdoms, the lords pledge fealty to House Stark the Starks have held the North for thousands of years, their blood is the blood of the first men, and their way is the old way. They care not for wealth, or glory or the other trifling interests of the southern houses, for better or for worse, it’s honour that guides the Starks. Having been scattered across the 7 kingdoms the remaining Stark children Sansa, Arya and their bastard brother Jon have re-taken their home Winterfell.

House Targaryen is a house reborn from the ashes, Daenerys Stormborn of the House Targaryen, the First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals, the Andals and the First Men, Lady of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm, Lady of Dragonstone, Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, the Unburnt, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons has sailed across the narrow sea with a fleet of allies and her three dragons and has taken her family seat at Dragonstone in the Stormlands. Strength and power is what binds the loyalty of Daenerys’s followers, her army of unsullied and Dothraki Khalasar would give their lives for her without a second thought. She is aided by her Hand, Tyrion Lannister, and protected by her stalwart companion, Ser Jorah Mormont.

Even in this deeply divided land there are men who swear no allegiance to any King or Queen, The Brotherhood without Banners a group of outlaws, who eschew loyalties to one house or another and actively work against Lannister interests throughout the Kingdom. Beric Dondarian, and the man who raised him from the dead Thoros of Myr are joined by Sandor Clegane, The Hound, younger brother of Queen Cersei's bodyguard The Mountain. There is no love lost between Sandor and his older brother, in fact there are many scores to settle.

Unknown to the remaining great houses, a deadly threat to them all looms, The Night King and his endlessly sprawling army of the dead have breached The Wall at Eastwatch and are marching south, adding to their ranks as they go taking with them those loyal to one house after another.

Factions

The Nightking & the Army of the Dead. The Nightking will be able to recruit people to his army of the dead. Anyone chosen to be recruited with be converted into a White Walker and help the Nightking reach his goal of destroying all life in Westeros.

House Lannister
Cersei
The Mountain
Jamie Lannister

House Stark
Jon Snow
Sansa Stark
Arya Stark

House Targaryen
Daenerys Targaryen
Tyrion Lannister
Jorah Mormont

The Brotherhood.
Beric Dondarrion
Thoros of Myr
Sandor Clegane, The Hound

Other factions / characters may exist in this game. There are no assigned roles outside of the Nightkings faction, in this game. There will be competitions each day to determine if anyone should win prizes. Prizes mean powers. These powers may be character target specific, so please consider this before revealing your character. Please also consider the below if choosing to reveal your character....


Win conditions:

The Nightkings team wins if the number of people on his team is equal to the sum of all other houses (i.e. parity). For parity count against the Night kings faction, the entire village is aligned with the houses, as a collective. While the Nightkings team is alive, it is not possible for the village or any individual house to win.

If or when the nightkings team dies, the game will continue to determine which House rules over Westeros. Each house will be given a backroom to meet with the surviving members of their House. Each House will be given 1 anonymous boards.ie account which they can use to post on thread.

The winning House(s) will be determined by whichever House has numerical superiority. For example, if House Stark has 3 surviving members, and there are only 2 other players remaining from House Lannister (at the point when the Night Kings team is killed), the Starks will automatically win.

Surviving House’s can form alliances with each other on thread, using their provided anonymous accounts. When an alliance is formed, the sum total of members in the alliance will count towards the tally for numerical superiority. So, for example, House Stark has 2 players and House Lannister has 2 players, and there are 3 other players alive from other houses; if House’s Stark and Lannister ally, they will win the game.

Alliances can be declared when Houses, using their anon account, both declare ‘House XXX allies with House YYY’, where ‘House XXX’ is the players house and ‘House YYY’ is the House they want to ally with. Alliances take effect when both Houses within a prospective alliance have declared the alliance, but will count towards numerical superiority at the end of the cycle they are declare in (either day or night). Alliances can be broken by declaring a new alliance. The three large Houses (Lannister, Stark and Targaryen) can only ally with 1 of the other 2 large houses at any one time.

For the purposes of declaring a winner, each alliance will need a name.


Rules

1. Respect the mods: The decisions of the mods are final. Mods will not enter into discussion or arguments on thread about mechanics of the game. There will be a time for review and discussion after the game is complete. If you have any questions, please PM all of the mods (Triceratops Ballet, Duffman13 & Baggly), and we will respond as soon as possible.

2. Don't cheat: This is a game that relies heavily on the players having integrity. No PMing other players in the game, and no chat about the game outside of this game thread and designated back forum threads. Screen-shots, quoting from backroom threads or naming of rooms anyone may or may not have are NOT permitted. If you are unsure about what you want to say crosses the line, PM a mod.

3. Be active: Please all try to reasonably contribute to the game thread with 5 posts being the minimum per day/night cycle; and always remember to get a vote in (for main lynch votes) as an additional minimum. In the case of a tie vote, the last vote will carry the lynch. Failure to vote in the main vote so may result in you being substituted or you being removed from the game, whichever is more convenient to the mods at the time. Substitution does not indicate any alignment or role. All players who are mod killed will be replaced if possible, but this decision will be made on a case by case basis. If you wish to be subbed, please PM the mods.

4. Game schedule: The game thread will open on Sunday the 18th of August. There will be no secret tasks in the game thread.

5. Voting rules: The lynch form will be opened following the munch and players can vote until 08:59:59PM. You can change your vote as many times as you like, but only your last vote will count. Do not share your vote form password with anyone else. All votes for the lynch have to be made by yourself.

6. Lynch rules: The votes will be published as soon as possible following the lynch in the order they were cast.

7. Players are free to post in the thread until the lynch and eliminations are announced. You are not eliminated until a post in the game thread from the mods announces it. Once you are eliminated, please don't post in the game thread or in COP (outside of the deadroom) again. Eliminated players are also asked to not to thank any posts in the game thread after they have died. You will be granted access to the deadroom where you can discuss the game. Please PM a mod for access, although we will endeavor to have it arranged automatically upon your death.

8. Policy on Abuse: Boards has a no-abuse rule in place that is in effect in this forum as well. By all means, call people on dodgy behaviour, point out if they are being silly or behaving strangely, be aggressive in your approach; but DO NOT abuse another player. If you feel another player has stepped over a line, the first step is to ask them to stop; if they do not, please PM a forum mod (Sullivlo/Baggly/Quickbeam) or use the report button on the post in question. Forum mods will investigate and action any issues at an appropriate time, keeping the game mods informed of any actions as needed.

10. Win Conditions: See description above. Each player must play in the interests of their House / Faction. For parity count against the Night kings faction, the entire village is aligned with the houses, as a collective.

11. Have fun guys, we encourage fun poking, memes, gifs, videos and such and such.

Not a rule but important for our community. We have new players, so please make them feel welcome. We have a glossary of terms and acronyms, as well as this beginners guide, which is available to all, but please pass on your WW knowledge respectfully during this game.

Triceratops Ballet

Roster:

Beakerjoe
BH
Choc Chip
Clarabel
Dandy
Drumpot
Ectoplasm
Fixxxer
GNR
Guffy
Ezra Vast Roundworm
LadySkunk
Lord TSC
Micksjaguar
Necro
QB
sKeith
Stu Redman
Ted_YNWA
Tritium
Tusk

Necro

First? Ok to post?

sKeith

is this thread open?

Bounty Hunter

looks at the OP

Gonna try to work that out before posting too much stuff that is completely wrong as per usual :pac:

quickbeam

Okay, wasn't sure we were allowed post, but since others are.

Lord TSC

Alright, let's do this!

quickbeam

I haven't checked my PM yet :P Will hold on for a bit, but the temptation is strong

Necro

So I've read the OP and haven't the foggiest what's happening.

Think I'm just gonna wing it and wait for someone smarter than me to explain it to me

Lord TSC

My understanding of the OP.

It's effectively village vs zombies to start off with.

If/when we kill all the zombies, the remaining, surviving players are split into teams, based on their starting alliances.

At which point, we've got a big old case of Game Theory to deal with, where we have to decide among ourselves who and how many people win.

But until the zombies are dead, that politics aspect really isn't in play. We should just be focusing on downing zombies?

quickbeam

21 players. At least 13 roles (mentioned in OP, could be others). 62% chance of a role! I like those odds!

quickbeam

Lord TSC wrote: »

My understanding of the OP.

It's effectively village vs zombies to start off with.

If/when we kill all the zombies, the remaining, surviving players are split into teams, based on their starting alliances.

At which point, we've got a big old case of Game Theory to deal with, where we have to decide among ourselves who and how many people win.

But until the zombies are dead, that politics aspect really isn't in play. We should just be focusing on downing zombies?

So NK can convert anyone. So say, Cercei* gets converted. She's no longer House Lannister? Or is she? She has to be killed along with the NK for the rest of House Lannister and the other houses to have a chance of winning. But nobody knows who's converted. Do those who get converted even know they're converted? I presume so.

* picked purely by example, as the first character listed. Don't read anything in to this being the example picked.

sKeith

Necro wrote: »

So I've read the OP and haven't the foggiest what's happening.

Think I'm just gonna wing it and wait for someone smarter than me to explain it to me

we have 9 village who can prove themselves by making an anon account say what they want it to say. There are no roles in the game, only prizes, so no reason for those 9 people not to make them selves super villagers.


we never lynch super villagers, so only the white walker can convert them, but the other in the hous3 will alert us when one of their own has been converted, so we can mark them for death.

quickbeam

And nobody has outright powers, except for the NK, who has the power of conversion? Everyone else gets powers by competition?

Lord TSC

quickbeam wrote: »

So NK can convert anyone. So say, Cercei* gets converted. She's no longer House Lannister? Or is she? She has to be killed along with the NK for the rest of House Lannister and the other houses to have a chance of winning. But nobody knows who's converted. Do those who get converted even know they're converted? I presume so.

"House Lannister" presumably isn't a thing till all zombies are dead. At which point, House Lannister wouldn't have Cercei as part of their group, cause she'd be dead, putting them at a numbers disadvantage for the second phase of the game?

Lord TSC

quickbeam wrote: »

And nobody has outright powers, except for the NK, who has the power of conversion? Everyone else gets powers by competition?

Competition, you say?

Necro

Lord TSC wrote: »

"House Lannister" presumably isn't a thing till all zombies are dead. At which point, House Lannister wouldn't have Cercei as part of their group, cause she'd be dead, putting them at a numbers disadvantage for the second phase of the game?

I presume they'd know who they are - but no backroom till Night King/zombies are dead... right?

beakerjoe

Hello all.

Necro

sKeith wrote: »

we have 9 village who can prove themselves by making an anon account say what they want it to say. There are no roles in the game, only prizes, so no reason for those 9 people not to make them selves super villagers.


we never lynch super villagers, so only the white walker can convert them, but the other in the hous3 will alert us when one of their own has been converted, so we can mark them for death.

Can they do that while the Night King is alive though? That's the part I'm not convinced of.

It seems to suggest that the second phase won't happen until the Night King & zombies are dead

Necro

Sup beaker, long time no chat. How are things?

quickbeam

Okay, so, NK and say 2 converts are killed.

We're left with, say 2 HL, 2 HS, 3 HT, 3 Brotherhood and 4 others.

HL and HT combine and are now 5 which is more than any other faction? They win together, and everyone else loses? Is that about the gist? Even though all are so-called "good" players (villagers is a normal game)?

sKeith

Lord TSC wrote: »

"House Lannister" presumably isn't a thing till all zombies are dead. At which point, House Lannister wouldn't have Cercei as part of their group, cause she'd be dead, putting them at a numbers disadvantage for the second phase of the game?

why would she be dead?


zombie cersei white walker could have won the game.


2nd phase is a bit of a stretch, more like a final shuffle.

quickbeam

Will those who are converted be playing double agent? So say, Jon Snow is converted), first name on second house listed, no other reason), is he chatting with other team, and suggesting an alliance with Brotherhood to win the game, while all the time secretly a convert and knowing that an alliance is pointless while he's still alive?

Drumpot

Necro wrote: »

So I've read the OP and haven't the foggiest what's happening.

So you know nothing?

Ted_YNWA

You'd be right!!!


Going to have to wing it until I figure out what is going on.

Lord TSC

quickbeam wrote: »

Okay, so, NK and say 2 converts are killed.

We're left with, say 2 HL, 2 HS, 3 HT, 3 Brotherhood and 4 others.

HL and HT combine and are now 5 which is more than any other faction? They win together, and everyone else loses? Is that about the gist? Even though all are so-called "good" players (villagers is a normal game)?

HL and HT would be 5,

But in your example, so would HS and Brotherhood, for instance.

Brotherhood and HT would be 6.

But I'm guessing there'll be "spoilers", so to speak; will people happily take a win in a group of six, or try to politic their way down to a smaller group for more individual glory?

Or, say....HL/HT would be 5, so would HL and Brotherhood. So, who does HL choose? And do the other two take shots at each other too, t try and win the game themselves and make them a more attractive partner?

(This is all presuming the numbers stay as is, too. It might be impossible to work out combinations, what factions we have left, etc, until we get to phase two...)

Lord TSC

sKeith wrote: »

why would she be dead?


zombie cersei white walker could have won the game.


2nd phase is a bit of a stretch, more like a final shuffle.

In the scenario that all zombies are dead, then zombie cersei is dead by virtue of the fact she's a zombie. Right?

The whole politicing thing doesn't seem to come into play till the zombies are all wiped out? Including Zombie Cercei?

sKeith

quickbeam wrote: »

Will those who are converted be playing double agent? So say, Jon Snow is converted), first name on second house listed, no other reason), is he chatting with other team, and suggesting an alliance with Brotherhood to win the game, while all the time secretly a convert and knowing that an alliance is pointless while he's still alive?

can the brotherhood make alliances or only the 3 large houses XXX YYY ZZZ's

Necro

Lord TSC wrote: »

In the scenario that all zombies are dead, then zombie cersei is dead by virtue of the fact she's a zombie. Right?

The whole politicing thing doesn't seem to come into play till the zombies are all wiped out? Including Zombie Cercei?

Yeah that's my interpretation too.

quickbeam

Lord TSC wrote: »

HL and HT would be 5,

But in your example, so would HS and Brotherhood, for instance.

Brotherhood and HT would be 6.

But I'm guessing there'll be "spoilers", so to speak; will people happily take a win in a group of six, or try to politic their way down to a smaller group for more individual glory?

Or, say....HL/HT would be 5, so would HL and Brotherhood. So, who does HL choose? And do the other two take shots at each other too, t try and win the game themselves and make them a more attractive partner?

(This is all presuming the numbers stay as is, too. It might be impossible to work out combinations, what factions we have left, etc, until we get to phase two...)

So would it simply be a race then for who makes an alliance first? If two houses get a majority at 5 players before another two get a majority at 6, then first two win? How do you choose who to ally yourself with? Is this where meta comes in, and you say, "I'm not allying with XXXX because they shot me in a previous game"?

Green&Red

Drumpot wrote: »

So you know nothing?

Very poor choice of gif when this bad boy is just gagging to be used





Also - hello

For the more experienced people am I right in reading there are no munches here?
Its going to be ridiculously hard to find the NK

quickbeam

sKeith wrote: »

can the brotherhood make alliances or only the 3 large houses XXX YYY ZZZ's

Had assumed so. But only one of them. An alliance can't be of more than two "grouping".

Course, I could be wrong.

Lord TSC

quickbeam wrote: »

So would it simply be a race then for who makes an alliance first? If two houses get a majority at 5 players before another two get a majority at 6, then first two win? How do you choose who to ally yourself with? Is this where meta comes in, and you say, "I'm not allying with XXXX because they shot me in a previous game"?

Not sure. Will obviously massively come down to who is left, what numbers are left, etc.

And this is also running on an ignorance of what powers are in play, who is playing this game of thrones that is operating from the shadows....

Necro

quickbeam wrote: »

So would it simply be a race then for who makes an alliance first? If two houses get a majority at 5 players before another two get a majority at 6, then first two win? How do you choose who to ally yourself with? Is this where meta comes in, and you say, "I'm not allying with XXXX because they shot me in a previous game"?

Well IF there's a phase 2 one house could simply lie about the numbers they have left.

I think we should just focus on killing zombies for the moment anyways.

Dublinandy2

So the zombies know who they are? Do the roled players? Or does no one?
We have to make an anon account and play eith two accounts. I'm super confused.
I feel like migel farrage when offered a continental breakfast

Guffy

Can you explain it toe like I'm a 4 year old?

Morning all, need to have a proper read of this before we get going

quickbeam

Green&Red wrote: »

Very poor choice of gif when this bad boy is just gagging to be used





Also - hello

For the more experienced people am I right in reading there are no munches here?
Its going to be ridiculously hard to find the NK

No munches. Conversions.

But I imagine plenty of deaths via lynching and bullets and other stuff.

Gonna check my PM at 2pm

Ted_YNWA

Do the House BR's only come into force after NK team are killed.

My take on it, from a quick read.

Doesn't help that I am not well up on storyline. Will need to re-read OP a good few times.

Green&Red

sKeith wrote: »

can the brotherhood make alliances or only the 3 large houses XXX YYY ZZZ's

Sounds like just the three, it specifically says they can only make an alliance with one of the other two

Necro

Green&Red wrote: »

Very poor choice of gif when this bad boy is just gagging to be used





Also - hello

For the more experienced people am I right in reading there are no munches here?
Its going to be ridiculously hard to find the NK

This is what's confusing me.

At the moment, I'm presuming

Munch = conversion

Bounty Hunter

Night King = some sort of Cult leader? Although it sounds like a pretty strong role so maybe he cannot recruit every day

Night King plus 12 listed characters makes 13/21... 8 NRVs? but with some of those potentially being hidden characters and tbh they probably aren't basic NRVs anyway as they would surely need allegiance to some house

The line referencing such hidden characters in the OP stands out to me

Other factions / characters may exist in this game. There are no assigned roles in this game.

The characters part not so much but other factions is a bit of a surprise with 4 and the Night King already in the game. No assigned roles is interesting though. So even though characters are assigned I am guessing we don't have BGs/Seers etc but that that will all be done via prizes.


then there is this which really stands out

Surviving House’s can form alliances with each other on thread, using their provided anonymous accounts.

Didn't think this game had Anon accounts, but either way alliances could make this game complicated although I suppose until the Night King is killed they won't matter much.

another thing that should be pointed out for people like me who don't usually read the OP properly too is

There will be no secret tasks in the game thread.

Green&Red

quickbeam wrote: »

No munches. Conversions.

But I imagine plenty of deaths via lynching and bullets and other stuff.

Gonna check my PM at 2pm

Spoiler:

You're a wolf

Lord TSC

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

Do the House BR's only come into force after NK team are killed.

My take on it, from a quick read.

Doesn't help that I am not well up on storyline. Will need to re-read OP a good few times.

That's my take too.

On the most simplistic of levels, we are, for now, a team of villagers vs zombies. We all work together to take down the zombies, and once that's done, we can focus on individual glory.

quickbeam

Guffy wrote: »

Can you explain it toe like I'm a 4 year old?

Morning all, need to have a proper read of this before we get going

I think we're all pretty much ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ atm.

Green&Red

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Didn't think this game had Anon accounts, but either way alliances could make this game complicated although I suppose until the Night King is killed they won't matter much.

My reading of that is that each house has a separate account, so there are 21players but 25 accounts can post here

Guffy

Ok... so its vanilla enough to start, just the wolven party grows? Can we forget about the NK and just weed out the brotherhood!

No set goodie powers so the night king and his team can also win them which is quite annoying.

sKeith

Dublinandy2 wrote: »

So the zombies know who they are? Do the roled players? Or does no one?
We have to make an anon account and play eith two accounts. I'm super confused.
I feel like migel farrage when offered a continental breakfast

at this moment in time there is just the nightking, no zombies.

Ted_YNWA

I'm still paranoid that I am posting in the right account. Last anon game still has me frazzled over it.

Drumpot

Wonder if some people can’t be converted? Like Cersai once she has that BG lad around...

Guffy

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

I'm still paranoid that I am posting in the right account. Last anon game still has me frazzled over it.

Ya the forgetting to sign into anon had turned me away for a while, couldnt be handling the pressure

Dublinandy2

I think we are all just going to have to assume we're all village until dsomeone dies and hope beyond hope the person who died, died for a reason to help us figure this out.

I'm in the car on my way from church to a meal so I'll be back later, if still alive. Hopefully someone cam explain to me in simple speak then.