The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

munster87

ArielAtom wrote: »

Lead a horse to water and all that, keep it up, each post gets sweeter😂

You’re not doing too badly yourself!

ArielAtom

Fann Linn wrote: »

Any info on the pending news from Mayo GAA?

Financial or something like that.

MayoAreMagic

ArielAtom wrote: »

But they have. You keep the diversion going, it suits your agenda

No they haven't...
On a per game basis, Dublin have completely outspent Mayo, despite Mayos far bigger number of fixed costs. That point is 100% factually accurate, regardless of your bs response about agendas... Mayo had bigger total spends on occasion bit they also had almost double the number of games in those years...

salmocab

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

No they haven't...
On a per game basis, Dublin have completely outspent Mayo, despite Mayos far bigger number of fixed costs. That point is 100% factually accurate, regardless of your bs response about agendas... Mayo had bigger total spends on occasion bit they also had almost double the number of games in those years...

Is there a breakdown of who played how many games those years and where?

MayoAreMagic

salmocab wrote: »

Is there a breakdown of who played how many games those years and where?

The details are on wikipedia, go to the year, look at the games played, count them. It isnt rocket science... Mayo came through the qualifiers after losing early on in connacht, common sense tells you they are going to be playing more games.
People trying to claim that mayo spent the most is like saying mayo were the best supported county in the gaa if you add all the games together...
In reality, the logic is fairly straightforward, talking about the posters county is just a way of avoiding the actual topic.

Beechwoodspark

As I have said before in this thread,when you look at the bigger picture it would be better for the GAA as a whole if Dublin win -

better chance that the absurd inherent advantages that Dublin has over the rest of the country are addressed.

The crazy population advantages and financial doping issues will be front and centre.

My fear is if Kerry do it today there will be a circling of the wagons by Dublin and they will pretend there’s no issue that needs sorting out. Ironic really

rgace

Of course it would show that the people making the crazy claims about money being the reason Dublin are the best are wrong.

How would you solve the population advantages? Join Leitrim, Roscommon and Sligo? Split Galway?

People have an affinity to their community/county, it is obviously inherently unfair on the smaller sizes counties but there would be no support for these manufactured counties imo

Bonniedog

They don't care. They just hate Dublin. If you look at most of their posts few of them post on any GAA matter other than Dublin.

Quite amusing actually to look at some of their other obsessive posts on Ryan Tubridy or some other personality.

It is obviously some psychological flaw related to a complex about successful people, the envy of whom they try to sublimate in unending repetition of the same thing. For months.

Quite sad really, but probably saves others from having to endure it in person.

Beechwoodspark

rgace wrote: »

Of course it would show that the people making the crazy claims about money being the reason Dublin are the best are wrong.

How would you solve the population advantages? Join Leitrim, Roscommon and Sligo? Split Galway?

People have an affinity to their community/county, it is obviously inherently unfair on the smaller sizes counties but there would be no support for these manufactured counties imo

People would accept the 4 way split after a year or so. There’d be the usual band of perpetually offended types but that would die away once the league commenced.

Just FYI In case you are unaware - even with the 4 way split there would still be an inherent population advantage -that’s how crazy the situation is !

Fan of Netflix

John Horan, Tom Ryan and Alan Milton and all the Croke Park suits (all involved with Dublin clubs) are going to have a very hard time selling their tiered championship with Dublin destroying teams like Mayo so easily. Tiered championship doesn't solve that.

I can see them forcing through their tiered champ and it being the straw that breaks the camels back for smaller underfunded counties. I think most supporters of them will stop attending matches and players won't commit, for a glorified Tommy Murphy cup. The gap is widening so much every year under Croke Parks watch.

Beechwoodspark

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

John Horan, Tom Ryan and Alan Milton and all the Croke Park suits (all involved with Dublin clubs) are going to have a very hard time selling their tiered championship with Dublin destroying teams like Mayo so easily. Tiered championship doesn't solve that.

I can see them forcing through their tiered champ and it being the straw that breaks the camels back for smaller underfunded counties. I think most supporters of them will stop attending matches and players won't commit, for a glorified Tommy Murphy cup. The gap is widening so much every year under Croke Parks watch.

Agree. Already major cracks are showing. It’s not going to improve unless major changes are brought through.

salmocab

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

The details are on wikipedia, go to the year, look at the games played, count them. It isnt rocket science... Mayo came through the qualifiers after losing early on in connacht, common sense tells you they are going to be playing more games.
People trying to claim that mayo spent the most is like saying mayo were the best supported county in the gaa if you add all the games together...
In reality, the logic is fairly straightforward, talking about the posters county is just a way of avoiding the actual topic.

Well thanks for the defensive post to my question, I was wonder had anyone looked into it as opposed to just looking at the top line figure which is all anyone ever talks about in all these debates. My understanding was it covered football and hurling and not sure about it but possibly at u20/21 and minor too. I could be wrong of course so I asked a question. Not everything is a poke at others sometimes it’s just a question.

MayoAreMagic

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

John Horan, Tom Ryan and Alan Milton and all the Croke Park suits (all involved with Dublin clubs) are going to have a very hard time selling their tiered championship with Dublin destroying teams like Mayo so easily. Tiered championship doesn't solve that.

I can see them forcing through their tiered champ and it being the straw that breaks the camels back for smaller underfunded counties. I think most supporters of them will stop attending matches and players won't commit, for a glorified Tommy Murphy cup. The gap is widening so much every year under Croke Parks watch.

The hypocrisy of it is, they have dublin being funded as a province, yet wouldnt dream of tiering them into the railway cup...

tikkahunter

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

The hypocrisy of it is, they have dublin being funded as a province, yet wouldnt dream of tiering them into the railway cup...

Just worry about your own county, over 50 years and can’t get their house in order. What’s the latest scandal?? Wouldn’t be money related by any chance would it ??

MayoAreMagic

salmocab wrote: »

Well thanks for the defensive post to my question, I was wonder had anyone looked into it as opposed to just looking at the top line figure which is all anyone ever talks about in all these debates. My understanding was it covered football and hurling and not sure about it but possibly at u20/21 and minor too. I could be wrong of course so I asked a question. Not everything is a poke at others sometimes it’s just a question.

I just explained how to find what you were looking for. Sorry I didnt say it nicely enough for you. You could always just google it yourself...

Looked into the spending on the team? I believe the figures were specific to the senior inter county football teams for all counties, it wasnt a gaa-wide figure...

MayoAreMagic

tikkahunter wrote: »

Just worry about your own county, over 50 years and can’t get their house in order. What’s the latest scandal?? Wouldn’t be money related by any chance would it ??

So if everything isnt 100% on point in someones own county, they cant make a valid argument?

How about stop referencing posters county's and just discuss the points at hand...

tikkahunter

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

So if everything isnt 100% on point in someones own county, they cant make a valid argument?

How about stop referencing posters county's and just discuss the points at hand...

Oh I have countlessly throughout this thread but your sole agenda is pure hate for Dublin, but everytime your own counties lack of vision or scandals are brought up you sidestep the issue and spout more boil . Get your own house in order instead of worrying about Dublin . We spent years getting ridiculed and where a laughing stock so got our house in order and set out a plan and stuck to it .

Anyway I have to go get ready for another AI final so you just stew away there in your own bitterness and I’ll enjoy the day with the kids no matter the result and if Kerry do win then good luck to them at least they are a county and team that go about things the right way and they have a very decent set of supporters.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Bonniedog wrote: »

They don't care. They just hate Dublin. If you look at most of their posts few of them post on any GAA matter other than Dublin.

Quite amusing actually to look at some of their other obsessive posts on Ryan Tubridy or some other personality.

It is obviously some psychological flaw related to a complex about successful people, the envy of whom they try to sublimate in unending repetition of the same thing. For months.

Quite sad really, but probably saves others from having to endure it in person.

Yeah, it's all begrudgery. Nobody can make a valid criticism, they're all just psychologically deranged.

ThunbergsAreGo

But Dublin aren't dominating GAA.......

Titzon Toast

Anyone got any spare sugar or honey?
The bitterness in this thread is overpowering.

maestroamado

naughtb4 wrote: »

But Dublin aren't dominating GAA.......

I have not being fallowing this thread.
I just heard in the commentary Dublin have won their last 43 championship games and the last 4 all Ireland titles.
Is this not dominating?

aodomhnaill

very quiet around here.

MayoAreMagic

tikkahunter wrote: »

Oh I have countlessly throughout this thread but your sole agenda is pure hate for Dublin, but everytime your own counties lack of vision or scandals are brought up you sidestep the issue and spout more boil . Get your own house in order instead of worrying about Dublin . We spent years getting ridiculed and where a laughing stock so got our house in order and set out a plan and stuck to it .

Anyway I have to go get ready for another AI final so you just stew away there in your own bitterness and I’ll enjoy the day with the kids no matter the result and if Kerry do win then good luck to them at least they are a county and team that go about things the right way and they have a very decent set of supporters.

The order of anyone elses house is irrelevant to the discussion. Stop deflecting.
As for being a laughing stock - regularly contesting all ireland quarter and semi finals is far from that.
As for getting your house in order - the gaa bankrolled you with 17 million that nobody else got. That isnt getting your house in order, it is a handout from another source.

blanch152

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

A lot of the money Mayo spent was on trasnport related costs. That's sonething Dublin rarely have to worry about.

Correct, they pay out extensive mileage to players at a level that makes them almost professional

Donnielighto

blanch152 wrote: »

Correct, they pay out extensive mileage to players at a level that makes them almost professional

Are they getting more than expenses? I didn't realize that but wouldn't be ok if it's the case.

beggars_bush

blanch152 wrote: »

Correct, they pay out extensive mileage to players at a level that makes them almost professional

Professional drivers?

Dublin posters haven't a clue what rural counties have to do to field a competitive team

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

tikkahunter wrote: »

What a game today , very entertaining. Hopefully another great game the next day . So does the funding compensate for being a man down in the second half or can’t you just except Dublin have a good team . Fair play to the Kerry boys they will win an AI in the next few years.

Dublin do have a great team. The funding argument doesn't exclude that possibility at all.

ClanofLams

blanch152 wrote: »

Correct, they pay out extensive mileage to players at a level that makes them almost professional

This claim has been repeated fairly baselessly in this thread. It was also claimed they were getting mileage even when traveling on bus but I posted a document from GAA and Revenue which ruled that out.

If they’re getting this post the evidence otherwise it’s no more credible than lads saying the dubs don’t work.

ThunbergsAreGo

maestroamado wrote: »

naughtb4 wrote: »

But Dublin aren't dominating GAA.......

I have not being fallowing this thread.
I just heard in the commentary Dublin have won their last 43 championship games and the last 4 all Ireland titles.
Is this not dominating?

More then one sport in GAA, multiple levels and genders as well .......

Bonniedog

Dominance of Dublin GAA = pure courage and skill, and heroism as defined by Ernest Hemingway - "Grace under pressure."