Paddy Power - Positive Discrimination

Shemale

Saw this poster for recruitment in Powers, seems they want to hire everyone except the people who make up probably 90% of their customer base.

This boils my piss, will do my best not to punt with them.

Positive discrimination yet running "enough of the nonsense" ads

Earendil

Shemale wrote: »

Saw this poster for recruitment in Powers, seems they want to hire everyone except the people who make up probably 90% of their customer base.

This boils my piss, will do my best not to punt with them.

Positive discrimination yet running "enough of the nonsense" ads

I don’t get it. They are running the multicultural stock photos every other company are in their sales pitch. What’s the problem?

Ps. I haven’t been able to get a bet on with them for over a tenner in about 3 years. Never knew it was my white male privilege holding me back

Shemale

Earendil wrote: »

I don’t get it. They are running the multicultural stock photos every other company are in their sales pitch. What’s the problem?

Ps. I haven’t been able to get a bet on with them for over a tenner in about 3 years. Never knew it was my white male privilege holding me back

Not hard to get really but you seem to have missed it.

First one I have seen, its not stock and probably 90%+ of their customer are whites / asians. Syrikes me as foolish, like the Gilette ad basically inferring all men are sexual predators in waiting

4068ac1elhodqr

That would explain why had to keep asking a chap to repeat himself on the phone call last month.
If had of been chatting to a regular Joe, wouldn't have had to look for, and open the hard to locate web chatbox thingy.

The lad at the back of the image looks like he's had his hair sprayed on, an unsual frisur.

If it's soley for localised retail/shop recruitment, maybe they think some folks can/will work without a mid-day re-fuel.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/paddy-power-in-100000-payout-to-workers-after-clash-over-lunch-breaks-38301950.html

Bear in mind, (like many others) have dropped 'all and every' Jilette product, from purchase ever again.
Rule 101: Don't insult the customers.

Earendil

Shemale wrote: »

Not hard to get really but you seem to have missed it.

First one I have seen, its not stock and probably 90%+ of their customer are white asians. Syrikes me as foolish, like the Gilette ad basically inferring all men are sexual predators in waiting

What’s a ‘white asian’?

Collie D

Is the OP one of those snowflakes I keep reading about?

SD2019

I'm not racist but....

munster87

Finally creepy moustaches are acceptable

Shemale

SD2019 wrote: »

I'm not racist but....

Collie D wrote: »

Is the OP one of those snowflakes I keep reading about?

Educate yourselves, companies arent hiring people because they are male and white or male and asian, some companies are incentivising not hiring these groups, but sure nothing to worry about.

tabby aspreme

munster87 wrote: »

Finally creepy moustaches are acceptable

The Village People advertising gambling

BigStickMick

Taking shorter prices with Boyles to own the libs

robbiezero

Hate Paddy Power, but it seems a fairly standard "Look how diverse a company we are" stock photo, that loads of them use to keep the twitter mob off their backs.
Like when RTE does the Leaving Cert student results interviews.

Earendil

robbiezero wrote: »

Hate Paddy Power, but it seems a fairly standard "Look how diverse a company we are" stock photo, that loads of them use to keep the twitter mob off their backs.
Like when RTE does the Leaving Cert student results interviews.

Correct. It's the way the world has gone.

Shemale

robbiezero wrote: »

Hate Paddy Power, but it seems a fairly standard "Look how diverse a company we are" stock photo, that loads of them use to keep the twitter mob off their backs.
Like when RTE does the Leaving Cert student results interviews.

I have heard of two very large IT companies having positive discrimination hiring policies and thought it was more of that.

It struck me that they have 4 women but all white, they could have had added an asian woman and an african woman

BigStickMick

They have a photo with some human beings in it, not sure what odds it makes where they come from or what colour their skin is? Nearly all staff I have ever come across in Paddy Power shops are white and Irish anyway..

carq

why does one lad look like hitler ?

littlevillage

Shemale wrote: »

Saw this poster for recruitment in Powers, seems they want to hire everyone except the people who make up probably 90% of their customer base.

This boils my piss, will do my best not to punt with them.

Positive discrimination yet running "enough of the nonsense" ads

Its an unusual photo right enough. Whats with the Kanye West looking dude at the back

Are their typical customers queuing up for these jobs?
These diversity posters are often an indication that the company is struggling to recruit for whatever reason and wants people from diverse traditionally marginalised parts of society to apply.

Shemale

littlevillage wrote: »

Its an unusual photo right enough. Whats with the Kanye West looking dude at the back

He is the greatest in play trader the world has ever seen.

PhuckHugh22

If one was to not bet with a bookmaker on moral grounds as the bookmaker is up to some dodgy business then you would probably never have a bet ever.

IAMAMORON

I have no idea what this thread is actually about?

BigStickMick

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I have no idea what this thread is actually about?

Paddy Power used some people who were not white men (the horror of it!) in their recruitment poster and that obviously means they are positively discriminating - as a betting shop cashier is such an in demand and desirable position that they have the luxury of being able to pick and choose who they employ :rolleyes:

heebusjeebus

carq wrote: »

why does one lad look like hitler ?

That's the representative white male

Peintre Celebre

Can't fathom that this has bothered someone

Shemale

BigStickMick wrote: »

Paddy Power used some people who were not white men (the horror of it!) in their recruitment poster and that obviously means they are positively discriminating - as a betting shop cashier is such an in demand and desirable position that they have the luxury of being able to pick and choose who they employ :rolleyes:

Funny that you saw white men, whereas I said white and asian men who are the majority of their customers and appear to be deliberately under represented.

If the idea was being PC they missed the female african and female asian demographic.

Yeah, Paddy Power cashiers do the sales, marketing, management, callcentres and IT infrastructure :rolleyes:

Our company(IT) are hiring a lot of non white males and non asian males, I know of another large company with a positive discrimination policy and I have heard of one huge IT company incentivising HR not to hire white males and asian males.

But sure its grand if you are unemployed or looking to move jobs as a white male or asian male.

Shemale

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Can't fathom that this has bothered someone

Its an usual poster and ties in with other large firms hiring policies, its a huge problem.

I am all for equality but when people are getting 6k - 7k bonus to hire people that arent of a certain ethnicity and gender thats plain wrong.

vandriver

I've driven loads of employees to the Power Tower,and I'd say the makeup is about 80% white male,and 20% white female.

CageWager

Shemale wrote: »

I am all for equality but when people are getting 6k - 7k bonus to hire people that arent of a certain ethnicity and gender thats plain wrong.

This is industry standard now. Accenture are laying out 50 grand for anyone who can produce a minority for an executive level role. Does this show how desperate they are to improve opportunities for minorities or how desperate they are to avoid be viewed as discriminatory by the twitterazzi?

BigStickMick

Shemale wrote: »

Funny that you saw white men, whereas I said white and asian men who are the majority of their customers and appear to be deliberately under represented.

If the idea was being PC they missed the female african and female asian demographic.

Yeah, Paddy Power cashiers do the sales, marketing, management, callcentres and IT infrastructure :rolleyes:

Our company(IT) are hiring a lot of non white males and non asian males, I know of another large company with a positive discrimination policy and I have heard of one huge IT company incentivising HR not to hire white males and asian males.

But sure its grand if you are unemployed or looking to move jobs as a white male or asian male.

Pretty sure this is nonsense and there are far more important things to be boiling your piss about and boycotting companies on the basis of.

But are your customers 90% white males and asian males, this seems to be an important point for you

PhuckHugh22

What has all this got to do with Horse Racing?

Seems like a thread that should be in After Hours or something.

BigStickMick

PhuckHugh22 wrote: »

What has all this got to do with Horse Racing?

Seems like a thread that should be in After Hours or something.

Are you not paying attention, it's *a huge problem* and if we allow it to continue we'll be governed by disabled black lesbian muslim refugees who want to destroy our culture.

Shemale

BigStickMick wrote: »

Pretty sure this is nonsense and there are far more important things to be boiling your piss about and boycotting companies on the basis of.

Just because you dont believe something doesnt mean its not happening.

BigStickMick wrote: »

But are your customers 90% white males and asian males, this seems to be an important point for you

Its great you can try to be funny when you missed the asian part first time, maybe learn to read instead of focusing on **** jokes

IAMAMORON

CageWager wrote: »

This is industry standard now. Accenture are laying out 50 grand for anyone who can produce a minority for an executive level role. Does this show how desperate they are to improve opportunities for minorities or how desperate they are to avoid be viewed as discriminatory by the twitterazzi?

Absolutely nuts if this is true.

I am being slightly pedantic but can you prove that the document is from Accenture? It just doesn't specify it.

My doubt lies in the fact that Accenture ( formerly Andersons the oldest Accounting firm in the world) would hardly leave themselves open to the possibility of prosecution for discrimination in the US, or in any country?

To clarify I cannot believe that they would be allowed to have such a policy? My understanding is that companies would have certain HR strategies which would encourage a more " robust " approach to recruitment. It may well be that they have such a policy, but surely this becomes a disincentive to appoint someone of a certain race if it is going to cost 10 times the price, it doesn't make economic sense?

I call BS.

Mango Joe

I worked for a company a few years ago that literally had around 419 white people in an office in Co. Clare.

They panicked at one point and hired a black guy in a complex import arrangement in case they were judged harshly, reported to some board or maybe sued or something.

- Only oddity was that they didn't seem to have a defined role for him, he was just needed to tick that box.

They were just too stupid to recruit properly in a natural way as part of a natural process..... The mind boggles.

wally1990

BigStickMick wrote: »

Are you not paying attention, it's *a huge problem* and if we allow it to continue we'll be governed by disabled black lesbian muslim refugees who want to destroy our culture.

God damn disabled black lesbian muslim refugees

Down with their kind !!!

Power to.the whites !!!


*This is a ****ing joke of a post incase any lunatic online think im serious

BigStickMick

Shemale wrote: »

Just because you dont believe something doesnt mean its not happening.



Its great you can try to be funny when you missed the asian part first time, maybe learn to read instead of focusing on **** jokes

Last time I checked nearly all positions of any meaningful power in the business world are occupied by white men so I think we're safe enough for the time being.

Your boycotting Paddy Power because of the demographic make up of one poster is the biggest joke in this thread

I assume it's like all other bookies, they don't want people who know how it works. Local chain near me hires young ones who haven't a clue about anything but kind of know how to work a computer. Means the punters are less likely to argue or start anything with them when the bookie ****s them over. Keep them for 3 or 4 years and get rid before they get too friendly or knowledgeable.

Shemale

BigStickMick wrote: »

Are you not paying attention, it's *a huge problem* and if we allow it to continue we'll be governed by disabled black lesbian muslim refugees who want to destroy our culture.

Probably isnt *a huge problem* for you as you have the reading and comprehension ability of someone who never went to school so you are probably on the dole.

I clearly called out I have no issue with equality but paying staff to discriminate is a problem, another poster is also aware of this.

Anyway I have said my piece on this.

CageWager

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Absolutely nuts if this is true.

I am being slightly pedantic but can you prove that the document is from Accenture? It just doesn't specify it.

My doubt lies in the fact that Accenture ( formerly Andersons the oldest Accounting firm in the world) would hardly leave themselves open to the possibility of prosecution for discrimination in the US, or in any country?

To clarify I cannot believe that they would be allowed to have such a policy? My understanding is that companies would have certain HR strategies which would encourage a more " robust " approach to recruitment. It may well be that they have such a policy, but surely this becomes a disincentive to appoint someone of a certain race if it is going to cost 10 times the price, it doesn't make economic sense?

I call BS.

https://www.cebglobal.com/talentdaily/referrals-underpin-accentures-diversity-strategy/

BigStickMick

Shemale wrote: »

Probably isnt *a huge problem* for you as you have the reading and comprehension ability of someone who never went to school so you are probably on the dole.

I clearly called out I have no issue with equality but paying staff to discriminate is a problem, another poster is also aware of this.

Anyway I have said my piece on this.

It is no wonder your employers want to replace you with an ethnic minority if this is how you carry on in the office

IAMAMORON

BigStickMick wrote: »

Are you not paying attention, it's *a huge problem* and if we allow it to continue we'll be governed by disabled black lesbian muslim refugees who want to destroy our culture.

Harsh and slightly far fetched, but I also agree with your paranoia.

I think economics usually wins in these circumstances. Money talks. When the PCness blows over modern business makes appointments based on an economic and going concern bias, rather than any desire to placate the PC brigade. Companies don't appoint someone because of their race, sex or disabilities, on the contrary they employ someone on their ABILITIES and their CAPABILITY of procuring profit and working within an income generating unit.

Not for Profits and the Civil Service are naturally different. A Black Lesbian Maths teacher confined to a wheel chair can still teach Maths.

This needs to be moved out of horseracing.

IAMAMORON

CageWager wrote: »

https://www.cebglobal.com/talentdaily/referrals-underpin-accentures-diversity-strategy/

Wow. Thanks for clarifying.

Is it an American thing? I mean it is obviously there to counteract some sort of legislation?

BigStickMick

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Harsh and slightly far fetched, but I also agree with your paranoia.

I think economics usually wins in these circumstances. Money talks. When the PCness blows over modern business makes appointments based on an economic and going concern bias, rather than any desire to placate the PC brigade. Companies don't appoint someone because of their race, sex or disabilities, on the contrary they employ someone on their ABILITIES and their CAPABILITY of procuring profit and working within an income generating unit.

Not for Profits and the Civil Service are naturally different. A Black Lesbian Maths teacher confined to a wheel chair can still teach Maths.

This needs to be moved out of horseracing.

For the avoidance of doubt, I was not being at all serious with my comment

CageWager

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Wow. Thanks for clarifying.

Is it an American thing? I mean it is obviously there to counteract some sort of legislation?

Yeah it’s an American thing but I’d imagine they will be pushing to roll it out globally. No idea now they get away with it from a legal standpoint but I assume nobody in there will ever question it for fear of being sent to the gulag just like all the tech firms.

Shemale

BigStickMick wrote: »

Last time I checked nearly all positions of any meaningful power in the business world are occupied by white men so I think we're safe enough for the time being.

So you have some information to share that positive disrimination is only for cashiers and not all levels? This contradicts the other posters image of Accenture bonuses.

BigStickMick

Shemale wrote: »

So you have some information to share that positive disrimination is only for cashiers and not all levels? This contradicts the other posters image of Accenture bonuses.

I honestly don't know what the point is now. That Accenture thing is one not particularly relevant example from America and also includes positive discrimination for veterans.

Betting shop cashier positions are hardly sought after jobs that need a recruiter to go out and find the person with the right skills, they are generally jobs that are given to anyone with basic qualifications so it's a bit of an apples and oranges comparison.

Your getting offended about the demographic make up of one poster and threatening to boycott Paddy Power on the basis of this is totally absurd and makes you look stupid.

Anyway, I'm off to sign on the dole.

IAMAMORON

CageWager wrote: »

https://www.cebglobal.com/talentdaily/referrals-underpin-accentures-diversity-strategy/

Fair enough, the article, written by the Huffington Post, is showing examples of large professional service and IT companies in the states that in fairness are merely fabricating these policies to give the illusion that they are implementing them. It is one thing to " simulate " an approach by potentially offering a larger incentive to employ a more diversified workforce.

The reality is that companies are using these " employment strategies" to buffer themselves against negative PR from the liberals. They can always retort and defend themselves by saying that they offer bigger incentives to employ a more diversified workforce. They are merely covering their ass. By having the policy they actually don't have to implement it. It is what is not written down that is relevant .

It is not unlike the OP's original jab at the Paddy Power poster. The fact remains that the company prefers to employ whites etc. So to window dress their employment strategy they include a diversified race profile on their employment poster.

It is all about PR and how the company wants to be perceived.

Tazzimus

I came in here to lol at the thread but actually have a question.

If the non white, non Asian folks are fully capable of doing the job as well, or better than the aforementioned, who gives a flying ****?

I don't care what the person offering me a service looks like as long as they're competent.
Also, what's wrong with a bit of diversity?

Timberrrrrrrr

Shemale wrote: »

Saw this poster for recruitment in Powers, seems they want to hire everyone except the people who make up probably 90% of their customer base.

This boils my piss, will do my best not to punt with them.

Positive discrimination yet running "enough of the nonsense" ads

Looks pretty much like the full staff compliment on a busy saturday in my local PP, What's the issue?

IAMAMORON

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Looks pretty much like the full staff compliment on a busy saturday in my local PP, What's the issue?

From memory you live in the UK? That being the case you are correct.

I think the op is posting from an Irish perspective. Let's be frank here, Ireland is not as ethnically diverse as the UK is.

Shemale

Tazzimus wrote: »

If the non white, non Asian folks are fully capable of doing the job as well, or better than the aforementioned, who gives a flying ****?

Like I said I too have no issue with equality and the best person should ALWAYS get the job.

If you worked in HR and the best candidate was a white male or an asian male but you could earn 7k more for you and your family by not giving them the job you wouldnt give them the job.