Whose transgressions shocked/disappointed you the most?

Sheridan81

Every suggestion from a large-scale crime to a misdemeanour that may have happened in your daily life is permissible in this thread.

I think my number one choice is Chris Benoit. He was a well-respected, hard-working, technically adept star in professional wrestling, who had won the WWE title, and was by all accounts a humble and good, dedicated family man.

In 2007, he rather unexpectedly tied up his wife and killed her, along with his young boy, then committed suicide. He has been whitewashed from wrestling history.

I was a teensy weeny bit disappointed with those offbeat shenanigans to say the least!

SmartinMartin

Bishop Casey.

Arghus

Louis CK.

Robert Maxwell. CEO Mirror group. Destroyed pension funds.

David Drumm. He was only trying to emulate Tom Cruise in that movie.

lbc2019

Bertie

Edgware

Goldilocks, breaking in to a house and stealing little baby bears breakfast

Cee-Jay-Cee

Santa Claus.

No explanation required.

mikemac2

I believed Tiger Woods was a sponsors dream and never put a foot wrong.

When his wife attacked his car and he crashed it I reckoned she was crazy

Boy was I wrong

Graham Linehan being a massive transphobe.
John Cleese turning into a Basil Fawlty-esque, Brexit-supporting Little Englander in real life.
Maureen Tucker (drummer with the Velvet Underground) becoming a Tea-Party supporting nutcase.
Billy Corgan just being a massive bellend in general.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Graham Linehan being a massive transphobe.
John Cleese turning into a Basil Fawlty-esque, Brexit-supporting Little Englander in real life.
Maureen Tucker (drummer with the Velvet Underground) becoming a Tea-Party supporting nutcase.
Billy Corgan just being a massive bellend in general.

Linehan is bring totally sensible.

ever not always

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Linehan is bring totally sensible.

He might be right, but I wouldn't call him sensible

Irish Guitarist

Pete Townshend paying for child pornography. I loved The Who and would like to believe his various explanations for why he did this, including that he was doing research for a book and that he was trying to heroically catch British banks taking money for child porn, but the stories are just too far fetched. He even did an interview in which he said people think he's a paedophile because he has a big nose. If someone who hadn't been in a multi-million album selling band came out with this claptrap there's absolutely no way anyone would believe them.

Sorry about that

Ian Watkins

mikemac2

mikemac2 wrote: »

I believed Tiger Woods was a sponsors dream and never put a foot wrong.

When his wife attacked his car and he crashed it I reckoned she was crazy

Boy was I wrong

I was going to mention him and Ronan Keating, both seemed so too wholesome I suppose.

Ursus Horribilis

John Peel

KaneToad

Eddie Hobbs
Baz Ashmawy
George Harrison

sol campbell

Ursus Horribilis

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

John Peel

Why? *goes off to google*

L1011

Sorry about that wrote: »

Ian Watkins

Same. Assumed when I heard the very first reports that it was going to be teenage girls which would be awful enough, then it turns out to be what it was...

eviltwin

Jimmy Saville

sabat

Arghus wrote: »

Louis CK.

Yeah, we had absolutely no warning signs that he was a chronic compulsive masturbator.

Hangdogroad

I grew up in two channel land so Jimmy Saville wasn't a big figure growing up though I would have known who he was. Rolf Harris came as a huge shock as he was the face of Denny rashers and he would have been a lot better known in 80's Ireland than Saville.

Hangdogroad

KaneToad wrote: »

Eddie Hobbs
Baz Ashmawy
George Harrison

The other two are insufferable knobs but what did George Harrison do ?

skooterblue2

Hangdogroad wrote: »

I grew up in two channel land so Jimmy Saville wasn't a big figure growing up though I would have known who he was. Rolf Harris came as a huge shock as he was the face of Denny rashers and he would have been a lot better known in 80's Ireland than Saville.

No, we had "Jim'll fix it" in my house and we only had 2 TV channels too. We thought he was amazing, my father always told me he was a creep. I had no idea why until he died and it all came out the day after ...... and still is , and a lot more covered up.

Jurgen The German

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Graham Linehan being a massive transphobe.

Someone in the public eye, having the gumption to stand up and be held accountable for their views, views echoed by many people too afraid to be branded phobic by expressing said views, is not a transgression.

It should be fcuking applauded.

We live in a world now that seems to side with whoever screechs the loudest, fair fcuks to him for bucking the trend.

Tony EH

Rolf. Has to be Rolf.

Skylinehead

Jurgen The German wrote: »

We live in a world now that seems to side with whoever screechs the loudest, fair fcuks to him for bucking the trend.

For screeching the loudest?

He's a bit militant about the whole thing.

Yer Da sells Avon

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Linehan is bring totally sensible.

He is in his hoop. Regardless of whether or not being a massive transphobe is good actually, his obsessive behaviour is far from sensible. He's literally lost friends over it. An argument with a fellow obsessive crank resulted in the police calling to his house. The whole embarrassing and undignified episode ended up costing him nearly £30,000 in legal fees.

He's recently taken to randomly lashing out at other celebrities/well-known people on Twitter for daring to not share his opinions...



Absolutely batshit.

greencap

Alan Watts alcoholism, feckless lifestyle and alcohol related death. (from what I can tell)

Took a lot of validity away from his speeches for me.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Linehan is bring totally sensible.

Harassing people on Twitter to the extent that the police have to be called is not exactly "sensible". Neither is treating trans-inclusive feminists with contempt and acting like he's a superior arbiter of women's rights.

Sure, there are some trans people on social media who are obnoxious and abusive but the majority are fairly normal folk who just want to be able to get on with their lives without being harassed or feeling threatened. Contrary to what Linehan and the people he promotes want you to believe, there's no massive conspiracy to indoctrinate all kids to question their gender. Or any widespread sinister cabal of male perverts who declare themselves female so that they can harass women in bathrooms.

JohnnyFlash

I find the whole Lenihan story to be great to be honest. One of the high priests of the twitterati decides to break with liberal dogma and is crucified by his own disciples for having the temerity to suggest that trans men shouldn’t be allowed compete in women’s sport or share facilities because it’s actually not great for women. A position that’s held by very many feminists and women, but is funnily enough seen as deeply conservative by online ‘progressives’.

iamwhoiam

Michelle Smith the Olympic swimmer

ceadaoin.

Sheridan81 wrote: »

Every suggestion from a large-scale crime to a misdemeanour that may have happened in your daily life is permissible in this thread.

I think my number one choice is Chris Benoit. He was a well-respected, hard-working, technically adept star in professional wrestling, who had won the WWE title, and was by all accounts a humble and good, dedicated family man.

In 2007, he rather unexpectedly tied up his wife and killed her, along with his young boy, then committed suicide. He has been whitewashed from wrestling history.

I was a teensy weeny bit disappointed with those offbeat shenanigans to say the least!

Was Chris Benoit not found to be suffering from CTE when they did the post mortem? Not that that excuses his actions but it goes some way towards explaining them. It's probably part of the reason he's been erased from the WWE, like the NFL, they don't want to be held accountable for severely damaging the health of their players/participants

Yer Da sells Avon

Apparently Linehan's hatred of trans people stems from the criticism he received after this episode of the IT Crowd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3BY72RF8vc

skooterblue2

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Michelle Smith the Olympic swimmer

It wasnt just you it was the whole country, except for Tom Humpries

Nigel Fairservice

I love the film American Beauty. I was most disappointed by Kevin Spacey. My gf always maintained he was a creep long before things came out in the news about him. I never thought he would be capable of it.

skooterblue2

Nigel Fairservice wrote: »

I love the film American Beauty. I was most disappointed by Kevin Spacey. My gf always maintained he was a creep long before things came out in the news about him. I never thought he would be capable of it.

He was just a sacrificial lamb to be thrown to the masses. There are far bigger ones higher up.

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

It wasnt just you it was the whole country, except for Tom Humpries

tom humphries

PTH2009

Garth Brooks regarding the 2014 regarding the croke park fiasco

Yer Da sells Avon

Neil deGrasse Tyson's making an arse of himself at the moment.

Wasn't sure what to make of the #MeToo claims against him as they seemed to die down compared to others, so it faded from my memory a bit. His tweets following the mass shootings are, at the very least, extremely tone deaf. Stuff like this feels worse coming from someone who's exceptionally intelligent, and who us normal saps should be expecting better from!

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

Apparently Linehan's hatred of trans people stems from the criticism he received after this episode of the IT Crowd:

At the time I never considered that episode transphobic, as I thought Douglas was the butt of all the jokes and that it was his ridiculousness that we were laughing at, not at the April character. I rolled my eyes at the criticism it recieved, thinking it was just people looking for something to be offended by. But now, knowing more about his contempt for trans people, I can't help wonder if maybe I was wrong about it and it was really meant to be just a cheap laugh at a transwoman's expense. (Still some good lines in that episode though)

I still like a lot of the comedy that Linehan wrote and he and his wife's strong support for Repeal the Eighth was certainly welcome. It's a real shame he went down this road and made it his main obsession.

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

One of the high priests of the twitterati

Not really a thing.

skooterblue2

PTH2009 wrote: »

Garth Brooks regarding the 2014 regarding the croke park fiasco

That ended for me long before then, as soon as I found out about him and Trisha Yearwood. He is all talk and no substance.

Sheridan81

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Was Chris Benoit not found to be suffering from CTE when they did the post mortem?

He had the brain of an 80 year-old Alzheimer's patient. He took lots of chair-shots and his finisher was a diving head-butt.

It's probably part of the reason he's been erased from the WWE, like the NFL, they don't want to be held accountable for severely damaging the health of their players/participants

Yeah, they still acknowledge other suspected murderers and reprobates.

Lady Spangles

Deleted User wrote: »

Why? *goes off to google*

IIRC, when he (John Peel) lived in the US for a short time, he married an underage girl and moved her across state lines to avoid prosecution. Later, when he returned to Britain, I think there were heavy rumours that he was involved with another underage girl.

It was a shock to me too, tbh. I still have fond memories of listening to his radio one show late at night, while at University and still re-listen to many Peel Sessions. The Fall and the Sisters of Mercy all did great Peel Sessions.

Anyway, before I digress, back on topic: Ian Watkins of the Lost Prophets shocked me. I was going through some old CDs I have packed away in an old suitcase and found some Lostprophets albums. Not sure what to do with them as I'd heard from a friend in England that even charity shops won't take them. Unsurprisingly.

Rolf Harris is another. I loved his art show when I was a little kid.

Pawwed Rig

Axl Rose. Idolised him as a young teenager before finally conceding that the man is a total knob head.

skooterblue2

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Axl Rose. Idolised him as a young teenager before finally conceding that the man is a total knob head.

Was Slash the real driving force behind Guns n Roses?

branie2

Jimmy Savile

skooterblue2

branie2 wrote: »

Jimmy Savile

Its not the stuff you know about worries me about him. Its the stuff and his connections with the Royal family that scares me. He was protected from up on high much the same as Epstein, just Saville was louder and tackier.

branie2

He was a psychopath as well

skooterblue2

branie2 wrote: »

He was a psychopath as well

Tip of the iceberg stuff. Way more going on there.

amovingstatue

Charles J F***ing Haughey, but then again I was young and naive during his reign.....