Rental supply decreasing says the RTB

The_Conductor

The flipside of the coin is there are a significant cohort of landlords out there who don't bother chase tenants through the RTB as the common understanding is there is no point- its simply going to be throwing good money after bad. Neither landlords, nor tenants, are in the clear. There are plenty of bad apples on both sides.

With respect of all the suspicious notices of termination- the RTB findings are that over a third are actually fine, the other 64% have issues- around a third of which are resolvable- the other third not.

As for the large number of complaints about deposit retention- roughly the same ratio- a third of detentions are sustainable, a third questionable and a third clearly and irrevocably in the wrong.

There are lots of dodgy people out there- on both sides of the equation. There are also lots of people- on both sides- who aren't bothering to report issues to the RTB (for numerous reasons- but mostly because there is no faith that they will take appropriate action).

Busterie

A lot of people here also need to look at the RTB site for new rules regarding renting properties:
https://onestopshop.rtb.ie/legislation-change

A LL must now give 6 months notice of termination to a tenant more than a year.
So a tenant can now move in pay, the rent for a year and live rent free for the next 6 months.
HAP tenants can do this and HAP will not pay any rent to the LL if the tenants do not pay their tiny portion of the rent.
At the end of 6 months they will get a council house of their choice..
Anyone would be need to be mad to go into property rental as a business

Cuddlesworth

Busterie wrote: »

A lot of people here also need to look at the RTB site for new rules regarding renting properties:
https://onestopshop.rtb.ie/legislation-change

A LL must now give 6 months notice of termination to a tenant more than a year.
So a tenant can now move in pay, the rent for a year and live rent free for the next 6 months.
HAP tenants can do this and HAP will not pay any rent to the LL if the tenants do not pay their tiny portion of the rent.
At the end of 6 months they will get a council house of their choice..
Anyone would be need to be mad to go into property rental as a business

To be clear, right now a tenant can move in, pay the deposit and months rent and it can take up to a year to evict them.

Whats the difference?

The_Conductor

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

To be clear, right now a tenant can move in, pay the deposit and months rent and it can take up to a year to evict them.

Whats the difference?

Exactly- however, the new rules are just formalising what a lot of tenants were doing anyway (not that it was fair or right- but now they can formally do it). The joker in all of this- is there is nothing in it for a landlord to expedite the eviction of a tenant who stops paying their rent, destroys the place or is a social nuisance. The ironic thing is a landlord is legally responsible for the bad behaviour of tenants if they terrorise the neighbours- but at the same time- they can't do anything about it. Its a classical damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. The 3% of non-tenant/landlord complaints to the RTB last year were predominantly 3rd party complaints to the RTB about antisocial behaviour. on the part of tenants. There is no indication that any of these complaints were resolved- other than 3 cases where the RTB issued a fine against the landlord as they did not stop the antisocial behaviour of the tenant. Seems a bit unfair- punishing someone for something someone else did- and at the same time forbidding them to stop the behaviour that you've just punished them for....... Why?

mikemac2

Busterie wrote: »

A lot of people here also need to look at the RTB site for new rules regarding renting properties:
https://onestopshop.rtb.ie/legislation-change

A LL must now give 6 months notice of termination to a tenant more than a year.
So a tenant can now move in pay, the rent for a year and live rent free for the next 6 months.

120 days would be 4 months no?

https://onestopshop.rtb.ie/new-changes-to-rental-legislation/new-notice-periods/

Not less than 1year but less than 3 years ---- 120 days

This is how errors in giving notice happens and unnecessary cases get brought to the RTB causing stress for both sides. The RTB give an easy to read table

Not aimed at you Busterie Just we have had a few threads in the last month or so about disputes in notice period

Old diesel

Is the 120 days and higher not intended for terminations where the tenant HAS NOT breached the lease?????.

In which case where is the formalisation of tenants not paying rent for 4 to 6 months coming from.

Or do we mean tenants deciding to stop paying AFTER termination notice.

mikemac2

Old diesel wrote: »

Or do we mean tenants deciding to stop paying AFTER termination notice.

Yes I think that is where the thread was going

utmbuilder

based on the 20% update of housing assocation's they would be operating almost 10,000 builds every 2 years,

however I think we are all being fooled, and they are at least 50% of new builds in the 82 sites they are operating

Its important to note that the likes of Tuath only charge about 400 rent for the social housing, although I wouldnt reckon they are in the business for fun alone.

Old diesel

utmbuilder wrote: »

based on the 20% update of housing assocation's they would be operating almost 10,000 builds every 2 years,

however I think we are all being fooled, and they are at least 50% of new builds in the 82 sites they are operating

Its important to note that the likes of Tuath only charge about 400 rent for the social housing, although I wouldnt reckon they are in the business for fun alone.

Housing associations as a general principle have to be welcomed as delivering more supply.

A family getting a home for 400 quid a month from Tuath is one less family that needs HAP from a Landlord who doesn't actually want HAP.

This helps boost supply for non HAP tenants.