Tommy Robinson Prison Sentence

MrLucidLJ

Just to make it clear I'm Centre right in my political views not far right or far left. So my question is about the sentence that was given to Tommy Robinson last week was what he did outside Leeds court last year actually breaking the law and if so why was he given jail time last year for the amount of time and also why was he retried with additional charges and has been given 9.5 weeks. From what he has been previously convicted off is that why he has been sentenced.
It feels to me this is a political message to people on the right and make Tommy Robinson silenced for his views. I would be curious to know in UK law history how many people have been jailed for contempt of court as I've heard it usually results in a warning and a fine. If any lawyers or people who know more about this could weigh in would appreciate it.

ancapailldorcha

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

Just to make it clear I'm Centre right in my political views not far right or far left.

This old shtick again...

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

It feels to me this is a political message to people on the right and make Tommy Robinson silenced for his views. I would be curious to know in UK law history how many people have been jailed for contempt of court as I've heard it usually results in a warning and a fine. If any lawyers or people who know more about this could weigh in would appreciate it.

Stephen has been doing this repeatedly so it makes sense that the sanctions are going to increase.

If you're interested in some reading, I like the Secret Bannister:

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/08/01/the-tommy-robinson-judgment-what-does-it-all-mean/

mcmoustache

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

It feels to me this is a political message to people on the right and make Tommy Robinson silenced for his views.

That point is really only being pushed by Tommy Robinson and his fans. It's not a point of view sincerely held by serious people.

Faugheen

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

Just to make it clear I'm Centre right in my political views not far right or far left. So my question is about the sentence that was given to Tommy Robinson last week was what he did outside Leeds court last year actually breaking the law and if so why was he given jail time last year for the amount of time and also why was he retried with additional charges and has been given 9.5 weeks. From what he has been previously convicted off is that why he has been sentenced.
It feels to me this is a political message to people on the right and make Tommy Robinson silenced for his views. I would be curious to know in UK law history how many people have been jailed for contempt of court as I've heard it usually results in a warning and a fine. If any lawyers or people who know more about this could weigh in would appreciate it.

Reporting restrictions were put in place so the victims of these cases could be protected.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon completely ignored the rules set out by the court regarding these, and very nearly had them thrown out. So yes, he absolutely was in contempt of court and his previous record doesn't give him much rope.

'Centre-right' then raising concerns about someone who did his level best to leave victims of awful sexual crimes being exposed and the perpetrators being let off. Pull the other one, mate.

SexBobomb

Faugheen wrote: »

Reporting restrictions were put in place so the victims of these cases could be protected.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon completely ignored the rules set out by the court regarding these, and very nearly had them thrown out. So yes, he absolutely was in contempt of court and his previous record doesn't give him much rope.

'Centre-right' then raising concerns about someone who did his level best to leave victims of awful sexual crimes being exposed and the perpetrators being let off. Pull the other one, mate.

Not very fair at all, the poster asked a question why are you so quick to label him far-right? basically calling him a racist. You must be an aul fascist yourself so

jam_mac_jam

He almost collapsed a trail of serious crimes so if a strict sentence prevents others from doing the same then good for the judge.

It is a serious crime with severe consequences if monsters get away with their crimes due to trails collapsing.

Are you suggesting that there is some left wing pro islamic conspiracy in the judiciary in the UK.

jam_mac_jam

SexBobomb wrote: »

Faugheen wrote: »

Reporting restrictions were put in place so the victims of these cases could be protected.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon completely ignored the rules set out by the court regarding these, and very nearly had them thrown out. So yes, he absolutely was in contempt of court and his previous record doesn't give him much rope.

'Centre-right' then raising concerns about someone who did his level best to leave victims of awful sexual crimes being exposed and the perpetrators being let off. Pull the other one, mate.

Not very fair at all, the poster asked a question why are you so quick to label him far-right? basically calling him a racist. You must be an aul fascist yourself so

Nobody called anyone anything. Jesus christ us everyone on the right just dying to be accused of racism. You are putting words in people's mouths

You can be right or far right without being a racist.

SexBobomb

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Nobody called anyone anything. Jesus christ us everyone on the right just dying to be accused of racism. You are putting words in people's mouths

You can be right or far right without being a racist.

You weren't calling him far-right Pull the other one, mate.

jam_mac_jam

SexBobomb wrote: »

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Nobody called anyone anything. Jesus christ us everyone on the right just dying to be accused of racism. You are putting words in people's mouths

You can be right or far right without being a racist.

You weren't calling him far-right Pull the other one, mate.

I didn't call anyone anything. Mate. That was another poster.

SexBobomb

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Nobody called anyone anything. Jesus christ us everyone on the right just dying to be accused of racism. You are putting words in people's mouths

You can be right or far right without being a racist.

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

I didn't call anyone anything. Mate. That was another poster.

He was calling him far-right Mate basically same thing as calling him racist Mate I replied to him Mate then you replied said he wasn't so then I replied. Mate. Never said you called him anything. Pal.

Fionn1952

I see we're off to the usual high standard of debate for these threads

MrLucidLJ

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

This old shtick again...



Stephen has been doing this repeatedly so it makes sense that the sanctions are going to increase.

If you're interested in some reading, I like the Secret Bannister:

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/08/01/the-tommy-robinson-judgment-what-does-it-all-mean/

Thanks I will read this later. I saw his video on Sargon of Akkaad saying stuff about him not breaking any rules in regarding to this and a US lawyer who doesn't particular like him who says he didn't do anything wrong presenting the facts of the case.

MrLucidLJ

mcmoustache wrote: »

That point is really only being pushed by Tommy Robinson and his fans. It's not a point of view sincerely held by serious people.

Well what do you think I'm a bit lost in it all as it feels like that's what has happened. This is why I am asking why has he been retried for prison again when he severed 10 weeks last year for the same crime and how often if someone is in contempt they get that sort of jail time and not just a fine.

MrLucidLJ

Faugheen wrote: »

Reporting restrictions were put in place so the victims of these cases could be protected.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon completely ignored the rules set out by the court regarding these, and very nearly had them thrown out. So yes, he absolutely was in contempt of court and his previous record doesn't give him much rope.

'Centre-right' then raising concerns about someone who did his level best to leave victims of awful sexual crimes being exposed and the perpetrators being let off. Pull the other one, mate.

How often are reporting restrictions put on these type of cases of cases such as peadofiles and rapists. It seems strange there was a reporting restrictions put in place for this when there was stuff on BBC website about the names of the men before. From what he said in video he said he's studied some contempt of court thing before and he said he was very careful to not put guilt onto the men for their accused crime. He has stated as well there was nothing on their website to say there was a reporting restriction nor on the court door or in the building which is procedure that's meant yo be done apparently.
I think it's a stretch to say he compromised the case that much when this was the sentencing portion and not even the case it self. The men were very hostile going into court towards him. Plus he was outside the court too I mean if I made a YouTube video from my house about the case in another country how does the law apply then it seems complex enough and a lot of nuances involved with it all.
Well I'm not sure what his previous convictions are he got the thing in Canterbury at a similar case and something to do with a passport and mortgage thing too. Yes I'll post my political compass test if you don't think I'm Centre right. Well I don't agree with you in the slightest I don't understand why this wasn't publicised as it's been going on around the country of UK for years and for some reason covered up and hidden but now as a result of this and trials coming up these grooming gangs are being exposed. It also shows that a majority of the grooming gangs are from the Muslim community which is very worrying and needs to be addressed why so high of s percentage this is happening.

MrLucidLJ

SexBobomb wrote: »

Not very fair at all, the poster asked a question why are you so quick to label him far-right? basically calling him a racist. You must be an aul fascist yourself so

Well I just wanted some of these questions answered from my point of view it seems unjust and unfair the whole thing and feels like a political statement for people on the right we can do this to you as well. I'm far from a racist or fascist that's for sure.

MrLucidLJ

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

He almost collapsed a trail of serious crimes so if a strict sentence prevents others from doing the same then good for the judge.

It is a serious crime with severe consequences if monsters get away with their crimes due to trails collapsing.

Are you suggesting that there is some left wing pro islamic conspiracy in the judiciary in the UK.

The judge who was serving the 29 people who were involved in that grooming case are their notes where he said Tommy nearly collapsed the trial? But this is my point surely others have been in contempt of court before and not received jail time and only fines but because it's Tommy Robinson everyone hates his gutsand the full extent of the law will be applied.
But the part of the trail was the sentencing part so how would they collapse the case was their a jury involved with the case too? There is something dodgy going on for sure on the left wing side the fact that there has been multiple grooming gangs who are predominately Muslim is very strange and that they are only coming into light now.

SexBobomb

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

Well I just wanted some of these questions answered from my point of view it seems unjust and unfair the whole thing and feels like a political statement for people on the right we can do this to you as well. I'm far from a racist or fascist that's for sure.

No,I wasn't saying you were, the opposite actually. You said you were centre-right, then other poster said that because you were talking about Robinson you weren't centre right and by implication you were far-right. I was stating that asking questions doesn't make you far right or far left just someone asking questions. Sorry if you thought I was directing that at you.

Faugheen

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

How often are reporting restrictions put on these type of cases of cases such as peadofiles and rapists.

When it involves children, quite often.

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

It seems strange there was a reporting restrictions put in place for this when there was stuff on BBC website about the names of the men before.

Was there? That’s interesting if so. Have you a link?

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

From what he said in video he said he's studied some contempt of court thing before and he said he was very careful to not put guilt onto the men for their accused crime.

Doesn’t matter. The court ruled that they weren’t to be named or identified in any way. He can’t make up the rules to suit himself.

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

He has stated as well there was nothing on their website to say there was a reporting restriction nor on the court door or in the building which is procedure that's meant yo be done apparently.

Absolute bollocks. The reason why he ‘exposed’ them is because there was reporting restrictions.

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

I think it's a stretch to say he compromised the case that much when this was the sentencing portion and not even the case it self.

Doesn’t matter. The ruling by the judge was don’t identify them.

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

The men were very hostile going into court towards him. Plus he was outside the court too I mean if I made a YouTube video from my house about the case in another country how does the law apply then it seems complex enough and a lot of nuances involved with it all.

What has any of that got to do with what’s going on here?

You asked questions about his sentence. I’m answering them. That chunk in the last quote has nothing to do with your original OP

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

Well I don't agree with you in the slightest I don't understand why this wasn't publicised as it's been going on around the country of UK for years and for some reason covered up and hidden but now as a result of this and trials coming up these grooming gangs are being exposed. It also shows that a majority of the grooming gangs are from the Muslim community which is very worrying and needs to be addressed why so high of s percentage this is happening.

I couldn’t give a flying f*ck what your political compass says, this chunk is far-right conspiracist bollocks.

The cases had been reported on, the attackers weren’t allowed to be identified to protect their victims from being identified. What part of that have you got a problem with?

Faugheen

SexBobomb wrote: »

Not very fair at all, the poster asked a question why are you so quick to label him far-right? basically calling him a racist. You must be an aul fascist yourself so

‘Basically calling him a racist’

Show me where I called him a racist please. Anywhere at all. In fact, find any post where I used the word ‘racist’ in this thread (apart from this post, obviously).

You must think he’s a racist if you’re so quick to jump in accusing me of calling him one when I’ve done nothing of the sort.

Billy Mays

MrLucidLJ wrote: »

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

He almost collapsed a trail of serious crimes so if a strict sentence prevents others from doing the same then good for the judge.

It is a serious crime with severe consequences if monsters get away with their crimes due to trails collapsing.

Are you suggesting that there is some left wing pro islamic conspiracy in the judiciary in the UK.

The judge who was serving the 29 people who were involved in that grooming case are their notes where he said Tommy nearly collapsed the trial? But this is my point surely others have been in contempt of court before and not received jail time and only fines but because it's Tommy Robinson everyone hates his gutsand the full extent of the law will be applied.
But the part of the trail was the sentencing part so how would they collapse the case was their a jury involved with the case too? There is something dodgy going on for sure on the left wing side the fact that there has been multiple grooming gangs who are predominately Muslim is very strange and that they are only coming into light now.

Maybe others who were found in contempt of court weren't jailed because they don't have a criminal record as long as your arm. Tommy does you see and has already served 3 prison sentences including one for beating up an off duty cop who was protecting Robinson's girlfriend from him.

It's standard practise for judges to take into account a person's criminal record when handing down sentenced

splinter65

TR is one of those totally polarizing people.
It’s impossible to have a civilized conversation about him.
The blame for all of this must really be laid at the door of
1. The disgusting depraved perverts who used mostly neglected vulnerable young girls like pieces of meat. The fact that they are almost exclusively from origins in Sth Asia and the girls are almost exclusively white British cannot be ignored despite the efforts of the hard left to pretend otherwise:
2. Multi agencies in Rotherham who were so afraid of being accused of racism in the hard left Labour heartland that they preferred to turn a blind eye rather than step in and put a stop to it.

Sending TR back to prison is just further stoking the mounting fury in a certain section of badly educated disenfranchised white British people, mostly men, who already feel outnumbered by the Sth Asian community.

Faugheen

splinter65 wrote: »

TR is one of those totally polarizing people.
It’s impossible to have a civilized conversation about him.
The blame for all of this must really be laid at the door of
1. The disgusting depraved perverts who used mostly neglected vulnerable young girls like pieces of meat. The fact that they are almost exclusively from origins in Sth Asia and the girls are almost exclusively white British cannot be ignored despite the efforts of the hard left to pretend otherwise:
2. Multi agencies in Rotherham who were so afraid of being accused of racism in the hard left Labour heartland that they preferred to turn a blind eye rather than step in and put a stop to it.

Sending TR back to prison is just further stoking the mounting fury in a certain section of badly educated disenfranchised white British people, mostly men, who already feel outnumbered by the Sth Asian community.

So you would rather leave victims open to being identified? You would rather children who were victims to be identified?

Good to know. You've no excuse for wanting these scumbags identified because the reason they weren't is to protect their victims.

But sticking it to the lefty Labourites is more important than these children according to your post unless you'd like to correct me otherwise.

What are your thoughts about Stephen Yaxley-Lennon being the leader of an organisation full of child murderers and paedophiles? Or are only the brown people the culprits?

splinter65

Faugheen wrote: »

So you would rather leave victims open to being identified? You would rather children who were victims to be identified?

Good to know. You've no excuse for wanting these scumbags identified because the reason they weren't is to protect their victims.

But sticking it to the lefty Labourites is more important than these children according to your post unless you'd like to correct me otherwise.

What are your thoughts about Stephen Yaxley-Lennon being the leader of an organisation full of child murderers and paedophiles? Or are only the brown people the culprits?

Calm down.
Where did I say I thought anyone should be identified?
Where did I express any support for TR or condemnation of his being sent down?
Nowhere.
You on the other hand seem to be frothing at the mouth at even the mere mention of the hard facts in this case.
And your gagging to play your racist card.
So I’ll put it up to you now.
Will you agree now that it is a fact, that numerous gangs consisting of men of mostly Sth Asian origin shamelessly and repeatedly raped and abused hundreds of white British girls in a depraved and disgusting manner for which they must be punished?
And multi agencies, tasked with protecting us all from this sick behavior, failed to do so because they were too afraid of being labeled racist, just as you are doing here?
Or have you a different version of what happened?

pjohnson

splinter65 wrote: »

Calm down.
Where did I say I thought anyone should be identified?
Where did I express any support for TR or condemnation of his being sent down?
Nowhere.
You on the other hand seem to be frothing at the mouth at even the mere mention of the hard facts in this case.
And your gagging to play your racist card.
So I’ll put it up to you now.
Will you agree now that it is a fact, that numerous gangs consisting of men of mostly Sth Asian origin shamelessly and repeatedly raped and abused hundreds of white British girls in a depraved and disgusting manner for which they must be punished?
And multi agencies, tasked with protecting us all from this sick behavior, failed to do so because they were too afraid of being labeled racist, just as you are doing here?
Or have you a different version of what happened?

What?

splinter65

pjohnson wrote: »

What?

Can’t help you. What don’t you understand?

pjohnson

splinter65 wrote: »

Can’t help you. What don’t you understand?

How was Tommy Batman Robinson protecting the Irish?

splinter65

pjohnson wrote: »

How was Tommy Batman Robinson protecting the Irish?

Nothing in my post about the Irish. You must be confusing me with another poster.

pjohnson

splinter65 wrote: »

Nothing in my post about the Irish. You must be confusing me with another poster.

You said "protecting us"

Who is the "us"?

splinter65

pjohnson wrote: »

You said "protecting us"

Who is the "us"?

Ahhh... I see... have you no other comment to make on the content of the post? Just pointing out that I used us instead of them?
I see.....

Odhinn

splinter65 wrote: »

Ahhh... I see... have you no other comment to make on the content of the post? Just pointing out that I used us instead of them?
I see.....

Who is the "us" then?

pjohnson

splinter65 wrote: »

Ahhh... I see... have you no other comment to make on the content of the post? Just pointing out that I used us instead of them?
I see.....

Is it actually against your religion to ever answer a question?


Who has this British Batman protected?

Sonny noggs

Another Tommy thread to get the lefties off. Fair play.

splinter65

Odhinn wrote: »

Who is the "us" then?

I said “protecting us all” instead of “protecting them all”.
What’s the big deal?
I’m still waiting for anyone at all to comment or reply to the actual content of the post.
Maybe yourself?

splinter65

pjohnson wrote: »

Is it actually against your religion to ever answer a question?


Who has this British Batman protected?

I never said TR ever protected anyone.
Where did I say that?
I said that the multi agencies tasked with protecting these vulnerable girls failed to protect them.
Do you agree with that or not?

Odhinn

splinter65 wrote: »

I said “protecting us all” instead of “protecting them all”.

You just seemed to be confused as to what jurisdiction you live in.

splinter65

Odhinn wrote: »

You just seemed to be confused as to what jurisdiction you live in.

Not confused at all. But you’ve nothing to comment on the content I see? Just the typo?

Odhinn

splinter65 wrote: »

Not confused at all. But you’ve nothing to comment on the content I see? Just the typo?

It's all off topic. Yaxley lennon is the topic, and he was justifiably jailed for repeated acts in contempt of court.

Faugheen

splinter65 wrote: »

Calm down.
Where did I say I thought anyone should be identified?
Where did I express any support for TR or condemnation of his being sent down?
Nowhere.

Actually, you've blamed the perverts and the agencies for his actions. So yes, you are supporting him, unless you want to be up front and deny it right now?

splinter65 wrote: »

You on the other hand seem to be frothing at the mouth at even the mere mention of the hard facts in this case.

You mean the fact that he defied a court order put in place to protect the victims of this awful crimes? That fact?

splinter65 wrote: »

And your gagging to play your racist card.

That's because Tommy Robinson is one.

splinter65 wrote: »

So I’ll put it up to you now.

That's splinter65 for 'I'll spew a lot of bile and answer no questions'.

splinter65 wrote: »

Will you agree now that it is a fact, that numerous gangs consisting of men of mostly Sth Asian origin shamelessly and repeatedly raped and abused hundreds of white British girls in a depraved and disgusting manner for which they must be punished?

Yes, they have and they should be. I have never suggested otherwise. In fact if you read my posts, you'll find that I'm annoyed by Stephen consistently trying to break court rules designed to protect those victims you pretend to give a **** about.

Will you agree that members of the EDL did the same, up to and including murder? Why did he not work as hard to 'expose' the dozens of EDL members who were just as sick and depraved as the people you outline?

splinter65 wrote: »

And multi agencies, tasked with protecting us all from this sick behavior, failed to do so because they were too afraid of being labeled racist, just as you are doing here?
Or have you a different version of what happened?

Proof of all of this please. And I mean cold hard facts, not a link dump to some far-right conspiracist spewing ****e.

The media were reporting on these cases. They couldn't identify the attackers because a number of these cases involved children.

I'll ask you again, why are you against protecting the children's anonymity here?

Well this thread is certainly going swimmingly. Don't you dare come in here OP and ask questions because you want to know more on a topic...

splinter65

Odhinn wrote: »

It's all off topic. Yaxley lennon is the topic, and he was justifiably jailed for repeated acts in contempt of court.

Yes. TR is the topic and how he’s been jailed justifiably for naming the vile perverted sick rapists whose origins would all be Sth Asia and who’s religion is in the main, Islam, whose victims were, in the main, vulnerable white British girls who were failed very seriously by multi agencies out of fear of being labeled “racist”.
I’m interested in why you and others here avoid the contents of the case like the plague, as if it an irrelevance?

Odhinn

splinter65 wrote: »

Yes. TR is the topic and how he’s been jailed justifiably for naming the vile perverted sick rapists whose origins would all be Sth Asia and who’s religion is in the main, Islam, ...........

....what passage in the koran encourages grooming of underage girls with alcohol and drugs?

Timberrrrrrrr

splinter65 wrote: »

Yes. TR is the topic and how he’s been jailed justifiably for naming the vile perverted sick rapists whose origins would all be Sth Asia and who’s religion is in the main, Islam, whose victims were, in the main, vulnerable white British girls who were failed very seriously by multi agencies out of fear of being labeled “racist”.
I’m interested in why you and others here avoid the contents of the case like the plague, as if it an irrelevance?

And i would love to know why you and SYL's other fanboys on here always skip over the posts about how SYL defended pedophiles in the EDL?

Is it only pedophiles of a darker hue that you dislike?

splinter65

Faugheen wrote: »

Actually, you've blamed the perverts and the agencies for his actions. So yes, you are supporting him, unless you want to be up front and deny it right now?



You mean the fact that he defied a court order put in place to protect the victims of this awful crimes? That fact?



That's because Tommy Robinson is one.



That's splinter65 for 'I'll spew a lot of bile and answer no questions'.



Yes, they have and they should be. I have never suggested otherwise. In fact if you read my posts, you'll find that I'm annoyed by Stephen consistently trying to break court rules designed to protect those victims you pretend to give a **** about.

Will you agree that members of the EDL did the same, up to and including murder? Why did he not work as hard to 'expose' the dozens of EDL members who were just as sick and depraved as the people you outline?



Proof of all of this please. And I mean cold hard facts, not a link dump to some far-right conspiracist spewing ****e.

The media were reporting on these cases. They couldn't identify the attackers because a number of these cases involved children.

I'll ask you again, why are you against protecting the children's anonymity here?

TR wouldn’t have had an opportunity to be out leading the EDL dinosaurs if the the paedophiles hadn’t been allowed free reign by the multi agencies, so yes, ultimately they are to blame.
The paedophiles alone are to blame for the suffering of the girls, just like any rapist is, alone, to blame for a rape.
Your annoyed because you want to isolate TR alone and fixate all the blame for the torture and rape of these girls on him in order to detract the attention away from the rapists, because your left wing ideology, to which you are slavishly committed, won’t let you criticise any person of color or non Christian Faith.
You are as transparent as a piece of cling film on a pot of beans and as angry as a bulldog chewing a wasp.
Is that enough answer for you?

splinter65

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And i would love to know why you and SYL's other fanboys on here always skip over the posts about how SYL defended pedophiles in the EDL?

Is it only pedophiles of a darker hue that you dislike?

When you can’t even admit that the Rotherham rapists are mostly Muslims whose origins are in Sth Asia, or even that any girls were raped, this post is a bit rich.

Odhinn

splinter65 wrote: »

TR wouldn’t have had an opportunity to be out leading the EDL dinosaurs if the the paedophiles hadn’t been allowed free reign by the multi agencies, so yes, ultimately they are to blame.
The paedophiles alone are to blame for the suffering of the girls, just like any rapist is, alone, to blame for a rape.

Your annoyed because you want to isolate TR alone and fixate all the blame for the torture and rape of these girls on him in order to detract the attention away from the rapists,

Please provide a quote and link to where somebody has tried to "fixate all the blame for the torture and rape of these girls on" yaxley lennon.

splinter65

Odhinn wrote: »

....what passage in the koran encourages grooming of underage girls with alcohol and drugs?

Are these rapists or are they not mostly Muslims originating in Sth Asia? Just yes or no? Is that not a fair description of them.
TR is a white Christian male from Western Europe. Ok. Now yes, or no.

Timberrrrrrrr

splinter65 wrote: »

When you can’t even admit that the Rotherham rapists are mostly Muslims whose origins are in Sth Asia, or even that any girls were raped, this post is a bit rich.

And there you go again, avoidung the point that was made

Yes girls were raped

Yes the grooming gangs that were caught were predominantly Muslim/asian.

So what do you think of SYL defending his EDL friends who raped children and had sickening child pornography in their possession?

Odhinn

splinter65 wrote: »

Are these rapists or are they not mostly Muslims originating in Sth Asia? Just yes or no? Is that not a fair description of them.

Their actions lie outside the islamic faith.

splinter65 wrote: »

TR is a white Christian male from Western Europe. Ok. Now yes, or no.

I highly doubt he's a christian, for the same reasons as above.




Now - Please provide a quote and link to where somebody has tried to "fixate all the blame for the torture and rape of these girls on" yaxley lennon.

Faugheen

splinter65 wrote: »

TR wouldn’t have had an opportunity to be out leading the EDL dinosaurs if the the paedophiles hadn’t been allowed free reign by the multi agencies, so yes, ultimately they are to blame.

They are to blame for Stephen breaking the rules set down by the court?

And he couldn't stop the white ones because he's too busy taking aim at the brown ones?

splinter65 wrote: »

The paedophiles alone are to blame for the suffering of the girls, just like any rapist is, alone, to blame for a rape.

Nobody is denying that.

I'll ask you again, why are you against the court putting measures in place preventing the VICTIMS being identified?

splinter65 wrote: »

Your annoyed because you want to isolate TR alone and fixate all the blame for the torture and rape of these girls on him in order to detract the attention away from the rapists, because your left wing ideology, to which you are slavishly committed, won’t let you criticise any person of color or non Christian Faith.

I'm talking about Stephen Yaxley-Lennon breaking the law. Why are you bringing the rapists into this? Him breaking the law nearly collapsed that trial.

splinter65 wrote: »

You are as transparent as a piece of cling film on a pot of beans and as angry as a bulldog chewing a wasp.
Is that enough answer for you?

I'm angry yet you've just gone on that tirade?

Answer the questions I've asked you multiple times instead of dodging them.

splinter65

Odhinn wrote: »

Please provide a quote and link to where somebody has tried to "fixate all the blame for the torture and rape of these girls on" yaxley lennon.

No I don’t have to. You’re not interested in discussing why TR might be doing this. It’s the weirdest thread ever. No one is to mention the rapists, their victims, or the agencies that let them down.
Well I’ll keep mentioning them because you seem to want to drown them out with your “TR is a racist. Nothing else to see here” mantra.

Faugheen

splinter65 wrote: »

No I don’t have to. You’re not interested in discussing why TR might be doing this. It’s the weirdest thread ever. No one is to mention the rapists, their victims, or the agencies that let them down.
Well I’ll keep mentioning them because you seem to want to drown them out with your “TR is a racist. Nothing else to see here” mantra.

You're the one defending someone who could have identified the victims. You couldn't give a flying f*ck about the victims so cut the charade.