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My €100m BEAM scheme

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  • Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭Coolfresian



    And why wouldn't they be?? The 330,000 head of prime cattle finished on dairy farms were used as justification to the EU for funding by the govt. Why should a dairy farmer that finishes Angus, Hereford, limousin etc be excluded??


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Why don’t they increase the €100 to €120 and the €40 to €50 to all those those that applied. End of story. And I’d be happy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee



    I don’t see why they shouldn’t, it was offered to the ‘beef only’ men, and they didn’t want it...


  • Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭valtra2


    Will they ask the dairy men to reduce nitrates if so then no problem


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭High bike


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Why don’t they increase the €100 to €120 and the €40 to €50 to all those those that applied. End of story. And I’d be happy.
    or better still why don’t they give th suckler man 100e per cow which it should have been in the first place


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭Bellview


    High bike wrote: »
    or better still why don’t they give th suckler man 100e per cow which it should have been in the first place


    suppose there is no chance they will treat beef in the same way as dairy was in the quota days... ie if the country is under quota then no penalties... so if there were 5% less sucklers in the country then regardless of what happen in individual herds there would be no penalty...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    High bike wrote: »
    or better still why don’t they give th suckler man 100e per cow which it should have been in the first place

    Probably because it was the finisher who took the biggest beating last winter and he will pass it back to the suckler man this autumn anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Xcool


    what about farmers not in quantity assurance or glas scheme ???????


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭High bike


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Probably because it was the finisher who took the biggest beating last winter and he will pass it back to the suckler man this autumn anyway.
    exactly and who will the suckler man pass it to, no one because he’s the man that keeps the cow for 12 mts and the calf for 8/9 mts and gets offered 40e ****ing euro for his trouble .What a ****ing joke any suckler farmer that signed up to that needs his head examined


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    I don’t see why they shouldn’t, it was offered to the ‘beef only’ men, and they didn’t want it...
    I didnt quailify trust me I do want it


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Probably because it was the finisher who took the biggest beating last winter and he will pass it back to the suckler man this autumn anyway.

    The only thing the finisher passes back is low prices.
    Don’t finishers work off a margin, the poor suckler farmer is nailed straight away :-(

    Suckler farmers should be aiming for good U grade 300-350kg to go on the boat


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    High bike wrote: »
    exactly and who will the suckler man pass it to, no one because he’s the man that keeps the cow for 12 mts and the calf for 8/9 mts and gets offered 40e ****ing euro for his trouble .What a ****ing joke any suckler farmer that signed up to that needs his head examined
    Agree €40 isn’t much
    but with lots reducing or exiting it might help


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭tanko


    Xcool wrote: »
    what about farmers not in quantity assurance or glas scheme ???????

    If you agree to join the Bord Bia QA scheme now or are in the BDGP that will qualify you for the BEAM scheme.
    Im not sure if the BEEP scheme qualifies a farmer for BEAM.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Xcool


    anyone i have meet who are in those schemes say they are a waste of time


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭50HX


    High bike wrote: »
    exactly and who will the suckler man pass it to, no one because he’s the man that keeps the cow for 12 mts and the calf for 8/9 mts and gets offered 40e ****ing euro for his trouble .What a ****ing joke any suckler farmer that signed up to that needs his head examined

    Is not signing up going to increase the payment?

    Less is more in the suckler game now I think

    Reps,glas, bdgp, beep, beam etc.....keep em coming...won't make it out of selling weanlings anyway


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,064 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    50HX wrote: »
    Is not signing up going to increase the payment?

    Less is more in the suckler game now I think

    Reps,glas, bdgp, beep, beam etc.....keep em coming...won't make it out of selling weanlings anyway

    A farmer with off farm employment and maybe getting €20+/hr probably sees it as not worth their while, but they're useful top ups if you're not so lucky.
    I can't believe there's relief milkers working for €50 but if you need it it's not to be belittlled, every little helps.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭50HX


    wrangler wrote: »
    A farmer with off farm employment and maybe getting €20+/hr probably sees it as not worth their while, but they're useful top ups if you're not so lucky.
    I can't believe there's relief milkers working for €50 but if you need it it's not to be belittlled, every little helps.

    Would consider them useful top ups regardless of off farm income but I hear what you are saying


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,064 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    50HX wrote: »
    Would consider them useful top ups regardless of off farm income but I hear what you are saying

    Better chance of getting money with those schemes than hoping for a price increase on produce


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭tanko


    Has anyone successfully appealed a BEAM scheme application where they sent animals to a mart which were bought by a dealer or an agent and killed within 30 days of purchase?


  • Registered Users Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Butcher Boy


    Heard today from a man in the know that it might not be paid out until next january,


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,200 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Heard today from a man in the know that it might not be paid out until next january,

    Jayus I heard different again from a man in the know. I heard that it will be paid out in the first two week in December and there ill be a 42% top up because of the lads that did not apply.

    TBH I ignore lads in the know.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭tanko


    Does anyone know for sure if animals sold in a mart which are bought by a factory agent or dealer and killed within 30 days of sale are eligible for the €100/head payment to the farmer who sold them in the mart?


  • Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    tanko wrote: »
    Does anyone know for sure if animals sold in a mart which are bought by a factory agent or dealer and killed within 30 days of sale are eligible for the €100/head payment to the farmer who sold them in the mart?

    Check ur agfood, it’s up for payment since yesterday


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭tanko


    Check ur agfood, it’s up for payment since yesterday

    Checked there, have been paid on the calves alrite.
    Think i should get paid on some cows i sold in the mart that were killed soon after but haven't been. Was just wondering has anyone been paid for animals they sold in the mart which were killed within a month?


  • Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    tanko wrote: »
    Checked there, have been paid on the calves alrite.
    Think i should get paid on some cows i sold in the mart that were killed soon after but haven't been. Was just wondering has anyone been paid for animals they sold in the mart which were killed within a month?

    The financial tab is down/ unavailable now for me


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭tanko


    sonnybill wrote: »
    The financial tab is down/ unavailable now for me

    It exploded, it can't cope with all the money you're getting lately:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Check ur agfood, it’s up for payment since yesterday

    No beam paid here yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,115 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    No beam paid here yet.

    Nor here


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Looked into the exceptional aid measures section on agfood. Can see the application for the first time in a while and it says ready for prepayment validation. So they must be getting ready to pay soon


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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,141 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Looked into the exceptional aid measures section on agfood. Can see the application for the first time in a while and it says ready for prepayment validation. So they must be getting ready to pay soon

    Same here on my dad's application


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