Unfurnished

Mad_maxx

Is letting a house unfurnished a valid option in this country, are you more or less likely to attract reliable tenants

Obviously would command a lower rent rate

s7ryf3925pivug

I would have greatly preferred unfurnished lettings when I was renting and was into my 30s.

**** being stuck with furniture you don't want, and not having space for your own stuff. Either have to persuade landlord to remove it, put it in storage, or just replace it outright.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

I always searched for unfurnished dwellings, but found it next to impossible in Ireland. I want to live in a home. The taste most landlords have is questionable, and wtf is with those bloody box bed things with the 1970s material covering them, awful altogether.

John_Rambo

I've done it twice against all advice and the properties were maintained better than when I left them furnished.
I stripped them bare and had them painted white, sanded the wood floors and varnished them. They attracted longer term, high paying tenants that considered their rental their homes. Nothing got wrecked (nothing to wreck) and any damage would have damaged their own furniture.

You may have a few online "experts" telling you not to do this, but that's my experience of letting with/without furnishings.

*renting to professionals.

Mad_maxx

What kind of discount would be reasonable to reflect an unfurnished choice

20%?

As unfurnished is a real novelty in this country, would a lease be a must so as to underline the fact that the landlord would not be responsible for broken furniture


Also, I presume unfurnished still requires the landlord to provide washing machine, fridge, microwave etc?

antoinolachtnai

Yes, you still have to comply with the regulations. A discount of 20 percent? If you think so. But I think less. It's really about what the market will bear.

The problem with renting unfurnished is that it will take a longer time to get it rented. There are unfurnished-seeking tenants out there, but there are a lot fewer of them than tenants looking for furnished property.

It depends on your property too. I would say that a property in Dublin 4, 6 or 8 would rent unfurnished (I have done this myself some time ago). But less premium spots, it'll be harder to get them rented unfurnished.

The delay is the problem. A property should be rented in between 10 and 20 days in the current market. With furnished I would expect the time to be double that, maybe more depending on the area. That's a month's rent lost.

I don't think for a second it would take longer to rent an unfurnished place.
I wish I could have found unfurnished when I was looking.
Most of the unfurnished places I saw were very high standard, high rent homes, out of reach for me unfortunately.

Zero discount in RPZ, a 20% discount would take years to get back up to level of furnished let, which is the most common type.i don’t think RTA distinguishes between the two.

wildwillow

I always let unfurnished. New carpets and paint as necessary. Usual electric appliances, repaired or replaced quickly when a problem arises. Ironing board and chopping boards to protect my worktops. Have had tenants for long periods, up to twelve years. Seem to take more care when it’s their own furniture.

Mad_maxx

Location is in the Galway city commuter belt, four bed house built in 2005

iwillhtfu

I've a house I let unfurnished and the current tenants couldn't believe it when they found out it was unfurnished as it's so rare to come across one, I let it at market rate and it wasn't long going. If I were you I'd do the same forget he discount if you find those viewing are looking for a furnished house then reduce accordingly.

K.Flyer

There are now a lot more properties, particularly houses, being advertised un-furnished.
For a Landlord it should be a no-brainer, nothing to break or damage equals less risk.

Mad_maxx

My instinct is that broke deadbeats wouldn't go near an unfurnished property?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Mad_maxx wrote: »

What kind of discount would be reasonable to reflect an unfurnished choice

20%?

As unfurnished is a real novelty in this country, would a lease be a must so as to underline the fact that the landlord would not be responsible for broken furniture


Also, I presume unfurnished still requires the landlord to provide washing machine, fridge, microwave etc?

I wouldn't give any discount. Rent is based on the house size, location, local amenities and market rate, not on the quality or number of furnishings. That's what I would have always thought anyway.

Cookie_Monster

You can't let unfurnished in Irl as such, the law doesn't allow for it. Have to provide fridge, freezer, microwave, washer and dryer etc.

It would be great to shift the entire market to that setup, allow tenants to build up their own furniture as the move about, less to be broken from the LL POV

K.Flyer

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

You can't let unfurnished in Irl as such, the law doesn't allow for it. Have to provide fridge, freezer, microwave, washer and dryer etc.

Any of the unfurnished properties I have seen will have those items, but they are not strictly speaking furnishings.
Unfurnished means the house with the statutory appliances and thats it.
What you sit on or sleep on, etc etc is the tenant's own lookout after that.

Forthebuzz

I have been renting an unfurnished 4 bed in the Galway city commuter belt for the last two years. It was rented at market rate and we were given the option of the landlord buying anything we needed so I just requested a couch and chairs for sitting room.

I hadn't specifically been looking for an unfurnished house but really happy with it as after renting for ten years and having two kids I had amassed a good amount of my own stuff. Now I don't have to try squeeze it in around someone else's furniture

Mad_maxx

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

You can't let unfurnished in Irl as such, the law doesn't allow for it. Have to provide fridge, freezer, microwave, washer and dryer etc.

It would be great to shift the entire market to that setup, allow tenants to build up their own furniture as the move about, less to be broken from the LL POV

I would be intending to supply kitchen appliances

Fol20

There’s a reason why most ll do furnished. It’s not because they want to but because it’s the norm and what 95pc of tenants expect. If our culture around this changed it would be better however this is what we have to live with.

Ray Palmer

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

You can't let unfurnished in Irl as such, the law doesn't allow for it. Have to provide fridge, freezer, microwave, washer and dryer etc.

It would be great to shift the entire market to that setup, allow tenants to build up their own furniture as the move about, less to be broken from the LL POV

I would be intending to supply kitchen appliances

You can't rent a place without them in Ireland.

Mad_maxx

Ray Palmer wrote: »

You can't rent a place without them in Ireland.

I know that, I was proposing to let however without beds, kitchen table etc

pwurple

What's the discount for here?

I have two units rented unfurnished, they have higher rent than the furnished ones. Mainly because the turnover is faster, and I need to repaint and maintain more frequently. People tend to only spend between 1 to 4 years there. You should command a higher rent for those than furnished, its more churn.


The properties I rent unfurnished are for professionals who are relocating for work with their families usually, or moved out while their house is having some construction work done. They want to rent short/medium term, be comfortable with their own furniture, and not have to store their belongings.

I put in very good quality appliances, the kitchen is high end, and the flooring , paintwork, windows, plumbing, heating etc are up to scratch.

theteal

I would assume that now long term/ lifetime renting is becoming the norm in Ireland, unfurnished will be a lot more common. I’m struggling to remember seeing any furnished places when we rented here in the UK, wouldn’t have been for us anyway. Not sure why there’d be any discount in rental price, who’d want smelly old crying chairs in their house????

TheBoyConor

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

You can't let unfurnished in Irl as such, the law doesn't allow for it. Have to provide fridge, freezer, microwave, washer and dryer etc.

It would be great to shift the entire market to that setup, allow tenants to build up their own furniture as the move about, less to be broken from the LL POV

That would be a headache for LLs in my opinion. You'd be lining yourself up for "oh we will move out but can we leave our stuff in the house for a week until our new place is ready?" Then one week becomes six or some other crap like that.

pwurple

TheBoyConor wrote: »

That would be a headache for LLs in my opinion. You'd be lining yourself up for "oh we will move out but can we leave our stuff in the house for a week until our new place is ready?" Then one week becomes six or some other crap like that.

Easily solved. Bill 'em.

Cookie_Monster

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

It would be great to shift the entire market to that setup, allow tenants to build up their own furniture as the move about, less to be broken from the LL POV

How many people actually want to buy stuff for a rental though, very very few I would imagine? It's costly, it's a nuisance buying it, setting it up and moving it when moving and as most people see renting as a temporary thing when they buy their own place they will likely want to buy furniture which best suits the house rather than the stop gap stuff they used in rentals. Even people who own a house, sell it and buy another house usually leave the furniture and buy new stuff best suited for the new place.

While you see some people posting here who want to rent unfurnished I would think that in general its a very small percentage of people who want to do it.

LirW

Michelle Silly Bat wrote: »

How many people actually want to buy stuff for a rental though, very very few I would imagine? It's costly, it's a nuisance buying it, setting it up and moving it when moving and as most people see renting as a temporary thing when they buy their own place they will likely want to buy furniture which best suits the house rather than the stop gap stuff they used in rentals. Even people who own a house, sell it and buy another house usually leave the furniture and buy new stuff best suited for the new place.

While you see some people posting here who want to rent unfurnished I would think that in general its a very small percentage of people who want to do it.

Long-term renting is becoming the norm in many areas of the country through. Plenty of people I work with would rather rent in the cities than buying further outside. Each to their own.
And no, moving with your own furniture is no big deal. You get a van, spend a few hours loading and unloading it and it's fine.
When I rented I bought the same stuff I'd now buy for my house. I much prefer having my own bed, mattress (I'm a bad sleeper and my mattress is invaluable) and generally making a the place my own.

I understand that for many it's just something you do until you buy but the trend is moving towards long-term rental, that's difficult to deny.

baby and crumble

I rented for years and if I was still renting I'd much prefer unfurnished. Even towards the end of my renting tie, I had accumulated a bunch of furniture that i liked (bookshelves, office desk, a nice armchair etc) so it became a bit of hassle fitting it in around the beat-up 'leather' sofas that most rentals come with here.

TBH if you're renting a place unfurnished it will probably attract an older, slightly more settled crowd - ie less students and folks on lower incomes who can't afford to invest in furniture. Since we've gotten IKEA etc here it's becoming much more affordable to furnish a house nicely, though. When I started renting in the early 2000's the stuff in rentals was always crappy.

In all honesty now that I'm in my late 30's I sometimes dread going to friends houses who don't have nice armchairs. My back is in bits by the end of the evening, but that says more about my shoddy health though...

jester77

Michelle Silly Bat wrote: »

How many people actually want to buy stuff for a rental though, very very few I would imagine? It's costly, it's a nuisance buying it, setting it up and moving it when moving and as most people see renting as a temporary thing when they buy their own place they will likely want to buy furniture which best suits the house rather than the stop gap stuff they used in rentals. Even people who own a house, sell it and buy another house usually leave the furniture and buy new stuff best suited for the new place.

While you see some people posting here who want to rent unfurnished I would think that in general its a very small percentage of people who want to do it.

I moved into an unfurnished apartment when I first moved to Germany. Best thing ever. You spend most of your time at home in bed or on your couch. So that is where I invested a lot of my initial money, a super bed and and a very comfortable couch. These have moved to different apartments over the years and when I bought my own house they came along to it.

Plus when I moved into my house I had most of the furniture and kitchen appliances I needed all in my own style.

I never had to deal with cheap uncomfortable furniture in all my years living here.

Samuel T. Cogley

Even if you cut out 90% of potential tenants by being unfurnished you'll a) still have loads of potentials and b) might even attract a few people that don't want a furnished place. I would have thought you'd cut out a lot of the less desirable tenants also.

karenalot

I have been renting out family properties unfurnished for the past few years. White walls, wooden floors and good quality appliances, the rest is up to the tenants. Never had an issue getting calls. In this market especially around Dublin, it’s quite the opposite.

Some of the stuff Irish landlords put into properties is fairly horrifying. Bargaintown and skip scavenging springs to mind.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Michelle Silly Bat wrote: »

How many people actually want to buy stuff for a rental though, very very few I would imagine? It's costly, it's a nuisance buying it, setting it up and moving it when moving and as most people see renting as a temporary thing when they buy their own place they will likely want to buy furniture which best suits the house rather than the stop gap stuff they used in rentals. Even people who own a house, sell it and buy another house usually leave the furniture and buy new stuff best suited for the new place.

While you see some people posting here who want to rent unfurnished I would think that in general its a very small percentage of people who want to do it.

It’s the norm in other countries including parts of the UK. I wanted to rent my own place as a graduate in the UK but couldn’t afford it because I didn’t have the funds saved that people from other countries would have to buy the furnished and white goods I needed to. Literally every apartment rental in my city was unfurnished.

As for the furniture not matching, nicely-designed furniture fits in anywhere. The idea of furniture only suiting one abode is an odd one to me.

I would love to have my own furniture in our rental but the LL doesn’t have room to take the items we’d like to change. We’d like a bigger sofa and we hate the bed frame of our bed. It’s huge and it’s very heavy. Big bed frames are the most pointless thing ever. All we get from ours is bruised shins.

I’d have no problem with a move to unfurnished. People would adjust.

LirW

LirW wrote: »

Long-term renting is becoming the norm in many areas of the country through. Plenty of people I work with would rather rent in the cities than buying further outside. Each to their own.
And no, moving with your own furniture is no big deal. You get a van, spend a few hours loading and unloading it and it's fine.
When I rented I bought the same stuff I'd now buy for my house. I much prefer having my own bed, mattress (I'm a bad sleeper and my mattress is invaluable) and generally making a the place my own.

I understand that for many it's just something you do until you buy but the trend is moving towards long-term rental, that's difficult to deny.

I do see it talked about here that more people are renting for life and hear it on the radio now and then but it’s certainly not something I see personally. Most of my peer group (early 30’s) and work colleagues already have built or bought houses, some are in the building/buying process and the few left that don’t fall into the two catogries are saving a deposit. I don’t to my knowledge know a single person who plans to rent any longer than they absolutely have to.

Now most of my friends/family are based outside Dublin but I do have some friends who bought within commuting distance of Dublin rather than rent.

I really believe that the vast majority of Irish people still plan to and will buy so while I do think there is a market for unfurnished I think it’s still a small minority of the market. More people than ever are housesharing than ever before trying to save deposits and this really does not suit unfurnished. How do houseshares work in counties where it’s all unfurnished let’s?

Mr.S wrote: »

It's really not that hard to move furniture, a day max unless you have a mansion. It's a niche market for sure (in Ireland) but we've rented our last 3 places unfurnished. Massive benefit in picking your own, nice furniture that you like. A god send having a decent bed and couch tbh

I only rented for a limited time and only in houseshares so would never even consider buying furniture but even if I ever rented a full house I would have no interest in buying furniture as to me it would be a waste of money and hassle. The stuff you buy for a rental is very unlikely to fit or suit your house (well in my case anyway). I’m currently doing the plans for my house and the furniture that I will put in it probably wouldn’t even have fit in the kitchen/living room/bedroom of any of the places I rented (If say I’d rented the full place unfurnished).

As for moving it no being a pain, I always found moving a massive pain and already have a massive amount of stuff without any furniture. Took me multiple car ruins and two trips with a pick-up and trailer to move out of my last houseshare and I was only renting a room.

Graces7

Mr.S wrote: »

I guess it depends on the type of renter you are. If you are jumping from houseshare to houseshare and only renting for the short term, then it doesn’t make sense to go unfurnished.

But people who treat rentals like their own home (which it is) then it’s an option.

For many eg pensioners, the cost of furnishing is beyond us.

JustAThought

TheBoyConor wrote: »

That would be a headache for LLs in my opinion. You'd be lining yourself up for "oh we will move out but can we leave our stuff in the house for a week until our new place is ready?" Then one week becomes six or some other crap like that.

Thats schoolboy stuff - yiu're in, you're paying rent. There are plenty of alternatives for storage nowadays - by the room, container or pen. No excuse to make excuses or requests of that kind thankfully. I agree with the zero discount - you'll never get the rent back up to par if the next renter wants furnished. Plus the majority I imagine would want rent furnished - the cost of kitting out a house properly is expensive if done properly & with new & ok quality goods.

Fol20

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Even if you cut out 90% of potential tenants by being unfurnished you'll a) still have loads of potentials and b) might even attract a few people that don't want a furnished place. I would have thought you'd cut out a lot of the less desirable tenants also.

Even if some of this might be true, it’s still sales related and your cutting out 95pc of your audience by doing this. Why shoot yourself in the foot?

jlm29

Fol20 wrote: »

Even if some of this might be true, it’s still sales related and your cutting out 95pc of your audience by doing this. Why shoot yourself in the foot?

The 5% you’re not cutting out are probably the 5% you want the most.

Fol20

Graces7 wrote: »

For many eg pensioners, the cost of furnishing is beyond us.

I would presume if you are a pensioner, you would have accumulated some form of wealth throughout your working life and would have steadily bought a couch etc.

If you are talking about social housing. This is not relevant here as they would only be talking about private renting.

If your young, it just means you will have an empty house, start off with a mattress and go from there. We all start somewhere and you gradually build up your collection of house stuff.

Fol20

jlm29 wrote: »

The 5% you’re not cutting out are probably the 5% you want the most.

Yes this could be true or it may not. Just because a tenant has their own stuff doesn’t mean they will always pay rent or not do anti social behavior. I wouldn’t view them any better or worse imo.

More than likely they are family’s and given our current environment and legislation. I would prefer professionals than family’s

skallywag

I am all for renting unfurnished and have long being saying that Ireland needs to tend to this direction if the rental market is going to grow and mature to any where near the levels that one sees in the likes of Germany, etc.

There is no way I would be offering a discount OP, I would much prefer to rent a place which is empty than a place full of the landlord's belongings which are number one not mine but the landlord's, and number two I am more than likely not going to like anyway. My only wish is that the place be in good order when I move in, i.e. freshly painted and floors in a reasonable condition. Of course the 'basics' which I cannot reasonably install myself (or remove if I move) need to be there such as toilet, sinks, cooker, etc. but as for any perceived trimmings such as shower curtains, cheap shelves, wonky beds, anemic kettles, cheap or unreliable old white goods etc I would honestly just prefer if they were not there in the first place.

Mind you I once encountered a situation where the previous renter was even removing (cheap and old) bulbs from the light fittings, that I found a bit OTT, but hey, they were his bulbs I guess!

Graces7

Graces7 wrote: »

For many eg pensioners, the cost of furnishing is beyond us.

How many pensioners are renting though? Ive never encountered a pensioner renting in my life, they all own their homes.

jlm29 wrote: »

The 5% you’re not cutting out are probably the 5% you want the most.

Very debatable, people who really make a place their home are much more likely to dig their heals in and be harder to get rid of if you want to in future. Kids in school etc nearby will make it worse etc.

Renting rooms separately to young professional imo is the best way to operate a rental house. It’s makes more money, has much less risk of losing out in rent and people will never want to stay long term so always easy to get the place back if you want to.

skallywag wrote: »

I am all for renting unfurnished and have long being saying that Ireland needs to tend to this direction if the rental market is going to grow and mature to any where near the levels that one sees in the likes of Germany, etc.
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Germany is very much an outlier and arrived where it did due to ww2 not any grand plan. Having most people renting is certainly not something “mature”’ or what we should be striving for. Owning your home should be the aim for anyone and the state should want its citizens to own.

Home ownership is far far higher in Europe (outside of Germany) than many posters here would lead you to believe, many even higher than Ireland despite being used as example where “everybody rents for life”.

skallywag

Michelle Silly Bat wrote: »

Germany is very much an outlier and arrived where it did due to ww2 not any grand plan. Having most people renting is certainly not something “mature”’ or what we should be striving for. Owning your home should be the aim for anyone and the state should want its citizens to own.

I was speaking of the market itself maturing, I am amused at the manner in which you try to spin it now to make it look like I was saying that renting is a mature thing to do :rolleyes:

Nonetheless it is still very much a fact that finding an unfurnished rental property is much much easier in, say, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, France, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, etc, than it is in Ireland.

Graces7

Michelle Silly Bat wrote: »

How many pensioners are renting though? Ive never encountered a pensioner renting in my life, they all own their homes.


Well you have met at least one! I am a pensioner and I rent, as I have done for decades.

And I know others.

Graces7

Fol20 wrote: »

I would presume if you are a pensioner, you would have accumulated some form of wealth throughout your working life and would have steadily bought a couch etc.

Not necessarily

pwurple

Michelle Silly Bat wrote: »

How many pensioners are renting though? Ive never encountered a pensioner renting in my life, they all own their homes.

That's just a function of the small number of people across various stages of life that you have met. There are plenty of renting pensioners.

Michelle Silly Bat wrote: »

Very debatable, people who really make a place their home are much more likely to dig their heals in and be harder to get rid of if you want to in future. Kids in school etc nearby will make it worse etc.

??? Why would you want to get rid of them? I'm in the business of providing homes for people, it would be completely unethical to uproot them, especially if they have kids in school.

If you have good tenants, you want to keep them. It's mutually beneficial for all to have happy tenants and a happy service provider.

Renting rooms separately to young professional imo is the best way to operate a rental house. It’s makes more money, has much less risk of losing out in rent and people will never want to stay long term so always easy to get the place back if you want to.

That's a small part of the market, yes. A properly functional rental sector caters to a wider range of needs. I disagree it makes more money, my experience is that short term tenants end up costing more in overhead and wear. It's more stressful to manage as well. There is always a learning curve when people move in, no matter how complete your manual is... and it's not possible to get people in and re-let in one day, so you have far more periods of vacancy, which earns you nothing.

Germany is very much an outlier and arrived where it did due to ww2 not any grand plan. Having most people renting is certainly not something “mature”’ or what we should be striving for. Owning your home should be the aim for anyone and the state should want its citizens to own.

Home ownership is far far higher in Europe (outside of Germany) than many posters here would lead you to believe, many even higher than Ireland despite being used as example where “everybody rents for life”.

Disagree with all of this. No-one says "everyone rents for life"... where did that notion come from?

A mixed range of housing caters to most / all of the market. We aren't all cookie cutter versions of eachother. Life throws up all sorts of changes, and different people need different housing at different times. Especially as we are more mobile now. We're not living in a time or place where you are born, life your life in the same down and die there. A heck of a lot of people travel and live and work in various countries, or around this country.

A functioning MIX of rental and owned is the ideal.

skallywag

pwurple wrote: »

A functioning MIX of rental and owned is the ideal.

Spot on.

The notion that a mature rental market and 'everybody rents for life' go hand in hand is frankly naive if not ridiculous.

There will be times in many people's lives where renting will be the preferred option at that particular point in time. It does not mean at all that they are necessarily going to be renting forever, it just means that they do not particularly want to purchase a home at that point in time, or in that location. In such circumstances the more choice I have the better, and I would consider having an option to rent an unfurnished home as a big plus.

pwurple

pwurple wrote: »

??? Why would you want to get rid of them? I'm in the business of providing homes for people, it would be completely unethical to uproot them, especially if they have kids in school.

Any number of reasons, some you mighn't even think off. I'd personally prefer to keep the max control over the property. The business is to make money also not to provide homes.

pwurple wrote: »

I disagree it makes more money, my experience is that short term tenants end up costing more in overhead and wear. It's more stressful to manage as well. There is always a learning curve when people move in, no matter how complete your manual is... and it's not possible to get people in and re-let in one day, so you have far more periods of vacancy, which earns you nothing.

Having lived in houseshare (only type of rental I've lived in actually) I really do think they are the superior choice for a LL. The fact you have to be a bit more hands on is a good thing, you can keep a much closer eye on the place for example. Leaving rpz rules aside you can charge more to 3 individuals renting a room than to as a whole, even if one stops paying rent you have the other 2 so less loss from a "bad tenant". As for vacancy I see it the opposite way. Chances are only one room renter will be moving out at a time so even if it takes a little time to find someone you still have the rent coming in from the others. But as its only a room people are renting it much quicker for them to move in and out and there is a lot of people looking for shares so you could easily have no period of vacancy.

Electric Sheep

karenalot wrote: »

I have been renting out family properties unfurnished for the past few years. White walls, wooden floors and good quality appliances, the rest is up to the tenants. Never had an issue getting calls. In this market especially around Dublin, it’s quite the opposite.

Some of the stuff Irish landlords put into properties is fairly horrifying. Bargaintown and skip scavenging springs to mind.

I will never forget the horrible furniture in Dublin rentals, most of it genuinely did appear to have been scavenged from a skip. Jesus, the carpets I saw...

Loved it when I moved to the US, and "white goods" - fridge, stove, microwave were all that was supplied. When we bought our place, we simply moved our furniture to the new place.

It's a much better system for professionals who choose to rent for a couple of years in a new city, while they learn the lie of the land, so to speak.

Of course, good apartments come with a credit check over here.

Fol20

Graces7 wrote: »

Not necessarily

I would be wondering what did the pensioner do for 40 working years of their life to not have enough money to have a bed.

Viscount Aggro

There will be plenty of pensioners renting, 20 years from now.
The same people who are renters now, and think its OK.

Graces7

Fol20 wrote: »

I would be wondering what did the pensioner do for 40 working years of their life to not have enough money to have a bed.

Well, given major disabling illness for many, many years....and given that rentals provide a bed..rent and food and fuel have priority over extras . Any small furniture I have is via V de P ;s excellent furniture shops.

Many folk fall on hard times through no fault of their own. So furnished is welcome. I do now have my own freezer etc from tenancies before they were de rigueur.