F1 2019 - Round 10 Silverstone

Charlie-Bravo

Good quali by Bottas. He's still there imo.

Points difference is 29 between him and Hamilton. I know Merc would called team orders so it would keep it an interesting championship if Lewis had a dnf tomorrow while Bottas wins.

Faugheen

Slattsy wrote: »

Vettels head is gone.

Funny that happens when his team-mate starts to show him up.

El_Duderino 09

Russel smashed Kubica again. Half a second this time. It's gotten embarrassing. The idea that there might be a flaw in Kubica's car was interesting but ultimately proved untrue. He's just not fast anymore. Being trounced by a child every other weekend must be demoralising.

Can't blame him for coming back. But the experiment has been run and the results are stacking up. He'll need to bring a lot of money as a pay driver to get another Contract for next year. Is he already locked in for next year or are there break clauses for Williams?

recyclebin

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Russel smashed Kubica again. Half a second this time. It's gotten embarrassing. The idea that there might be a flaw in Kubica's car was interesting but ultimately proved untrue. He's just not fast anymore. Being trounced by a child every other weekend must be demoralising.

Can't blame him for coming back. But the experiment has been run and the results are stacking up. He'll need to bring a lot of money as a pay driver to get another Contract for next year. Is he already locked in for next year or are there break clauses for Williams?

Replace Kubica with Vettel and Russell with Le Clerc and you get the same story

chicorytip

El_Duderino 09 wrote:

Russel smashed Kubica again. Half a second this time. It's gotten embarrassing. The idea that there might be a flaw in Kubica's car was interesting but ultimately proved untrue. He's just not fast anymore. Being trounced by a child every other weekend must be demoralising.

El_Duderino 09 wrote:

Can't blame him for coming back. But the experiment has been run and the results are stacking up. He'll need to bring a lot of money as a pay driver to get another Contract for next year. Is he already locked in for next year or are there break clauses for Williams?

Ol Bob's not done that badly. There are major disparities in performance between drivers of other F1 teams - Force India, Haas and Red Bull. They had all the data about his capabilities before they appointed him on a two year contract. It's an amazing physical feat, really, to still be able to drive at what is, if not a highly competitive than hardly an utterly inept level. Anyway, the car is utter rubbish. It would be interesting to see him have a go in a Merc.

Faugheen

chicorytip wrote: »

Ol Bob's not done that badly. There are major disparities in performance between drivers of other F1 teams - Force India, Haas and Red Bull. They had all the data about his capabilities before they appointed him on a two year contract. It's an amazing physical feat, really, to still be able to drive at what is, if not a highly competitive than hardly an utterly inept level. Anyway, the car is utter rubbish. It would be interesting to see him have a go in a Merc.

If he’s getting smashed by Russell in a Williams then he’d get absolutely annihilated by Bottas in a Merc, never mind Hamilton.

seamusk84

Yeah I think out front we might be looking at a dull race with Merc 1/2. Our only hope is a good start from Verstappen & Vettel to really mix it up.

Anyone have any thoughts on what’s wrong with Vettel? Proper woeful in quali, like he just wasn’t there.

Faugheen

seamusk84 wrote: »

Yeah I think out front we might be looking at a dull race with Merc 1/2. Our only hope is a good start from Verstappen & Vettel to really mix it up.

Anyone have any thoughts on what’s wrong with Vettel? Proper woeful in quali, like he just wasn’t there.

His heads gone. I dunno if it's a confidence thing or anything to do with LeClerc's emergence but it's really one thing that seems to follow him around.

skipper_G

Faugheen wrote: »

His heads gone. I dunno if it's a confidence thing or anything to do with LeClerc's emergence but it's really one thing that seems to follow him around.

I wouldn't say his head is gone but definitely lacking confidence. All the pre season momentum was with Ferrari and now it's not. Maybe he's starting to get frustrated at the team's continued failure to get things right similar to Alonso. This is Seb's fifth season with Ferrari and seems farther away from a title than ever

Rossi IRL

Small bit of rain at the end of the porsche race....... Doing my rain dance

pjohnson

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Small bit of rain at the end of the porsche race....... Doing my rain dance

Pics or GTFO

Slattsy

So, who wins? Bookies have Hamilton fav, and probably hard to look passed him on his home track.

Be interesting if LeClerc can make a place or two at the start.

Rossi IRL

pjohnson wrote: »

Pics or GTFO

Twas only a drissle, looks like its gone now

dublinman1990

I saw the Ben Edwards cockpit commentary with Lando Norris driving the McLaren. It was amazing to watch.

The wheel from the car was nearly knackered as it was showing some flames when it finished the lap.

AMKC

Slattsy wrote: »

So, who wins? Bookies have Hamilton fav, and probably hard to look passed him on his home track.

Be interesting if LeClerc can make a place or two at the start.

Very disappointed in Vettel. This should have been the race to get him motivated considering he won it last year and yet he only qualified 6th. Not looking good for him if it keeps going like this. Eddie Jordon saying him a Lewis will do a swap and some stage. I can not see that happening anytime soon. I could see Vettel retire before that. I think Vettel seems to have lost his killer instinct.

I would like to see Leclerc or Bottas win the race.

Just hoping we get a good race because qualifying was very boring one of the worst in a while.

gooch2k9

Thought the Toto-Southgate feature was very good on C4. They seem like two clued in managers; both people and process management.

Jordan 199

Jean Alesi :cool:

dublinman1990

Oh that's great; a joint interview with Mo Farah on Sky & C4.

the_pen_turner

what would everyone think of DC for james bond.

PsychoPete

The grid walk is such nonsense

gooch2k9

Chris Grayling in attendance. What disasters can he conjure up today?!

Grid walk would be better is they focused on getting info from more technically involved people. Feck the celebrities!

Rossi IRL

They should limit the amount of nobodies on the grid.

Suppose its probably a money racket for them.

Would like to see some former/current drivers, etc being interviewed

Also didn't like Brundle running through people and knocking off them.

Also limit the broadcasters to 5 people max on the grid. Sky must have around 20 including cameramen, sound people etc

dublinman1990

Oh Jesus. Verstappen's end plate on his car is cracked as he went to the grid. I hope that the team will get fixed quickly.

Rossi IRL

dublinman1990 wrote: »

Oh Jesus. Verstappen's end plate on his car is cracked as he went to the grid. I hope that the team will get fixed quickly.

Gaslys is gone as well

Strange

lolie

Great to have an F1 race live again on channel 4, but steve jones is still an awful dose.
Heres hoping for an exciting race with max and leclerc in the mix.

AMKC

lolie wrote: »

Great to have an F1 race live again on channel 4, but steve jones is still an awful dose.
Heres hoping for an exciting race with max and leclerc in the mix.

I actually think Steve Jones has done a good job this weekend and has not being annoying as he normally is.

Charlie-Bravo

Looking forward to this. Come on Bottas.

CFlat

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Gaslys is gone as well

Strange

No mention of that on C4.

skipper_G

Don't see any chance of rain strong enough to necessitate inters or wets. The big unknown is the tyre degradation, 1 stoppers will have some ugly tyres at the end but can see the teams preferring that given the time loss on the extra stop.

d8491prj5boyvg

lolie wrote: »

Great to have an F1 race live again on channel 4, but steve jones is still an awful dose.
Heres hoping for an exciting race with max and leclerc in the mix.

I'm really enjoying the channel 4 coverage too. Webber was a class act when describing the Verstappen trouble on the grid. I don't think Brundle would have known the routine in a situation like that. It's been a long time since he's been in the cockpit, I wonder is that starting to show. He is of course, an excellent broadcaster and still has a keen eye. If only we could pair him with Webber or Coulthard.

skipper_G

AMKC wrote: »

I actually think Steve Jones has done a good job this weekend and has not being annoying as he normally is.

He gets flak but I much prefer him to his Sky counterpart Simon Lazeby. Jones seems to actually enjoy being there in stark contrast to Lazenby who has an eternal look of ambivalence on his face, as if the whole thing is an annoyance to him

skipper_G

Charlie Whiting's son to start the race, that's a nice touch

dublinman1990

We're all set now.

d8491prj5boyvg

The dynamic cameras on rails look stylish but I find it harder to follow what's going on.

Jordan 199

Maggots-Becketts-Chapel is an excellent sequence of corners.

dublinman1990

The 2 Haas had contact between each other & went to the pits.

Jordan 199

Awesome racing.

Larbre34

D1ckhead producer.

Hon Valtteri.

skipper_G

dublinman1990 wrote: »

The 2 Haas had contact between each other & went to the pits.

I was praying for Grosjean to retire, have a double on him as first retirement and a Hamilton win. A bigger contact would have been sweet

What were they thinking cutting away mid overtake to show the crowd when Hamilton was having a go at Bottas. Stupid dope of a director

d8491prj5boyvg

I hope the Bottas/Hamilton fight helps LeClerc to catch up

lolie

AMKC wrote: »

I actually think Steve Jones has done a good job this weekend and has not being annoying as he normally is.

Yeah not as annoying as usual.

Rossi IRL

Verstappen needs to get passed Leclerc if he has any chance of keeping with the front 2

d8491prj5boyvg

LeClerc with tyre trouble. We could be relying on Max to give the Mercs a fight.

ScrubsfanChris

Nice to see Bottas isn't just rolling over like usual.

Rossi IRL

Looks like Verstappen may have changed direction more than once defending against Vettel

skipper_G

Gasly passed somebody!

skipper_G

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Looks like Verstappen may have changed direction more than once defending against Vettel

No chance, robust defence from all concerned. Do we want racing or not?

gooch2k9

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Looks like Verstappen may have changed direction more than once defending against Vettel

Hard to see with the camera, not impressed with some of the angles and cuts in this race.

dublinman1990

Gasly made a good move there against Vettel. And now Gasly went into the pits.

Larbre34

skipper_G wrote: »

No chance, robust defence from all concerned. Do we want racing or not?

We do, but for years now the sporting administrators clearly do not.