N****r in a woodpile

Dante7

I find it interesting that a recent complaint about a politician who used the phrases "n*****r in a dogpile", and also used the phrase "f*ckin bitch" directly targeted at another woman, that it was the N word that got the attention.

The N word in that phrase is an old term with absolutely no derogatory or racist intention. Calling someone a f*ckin bitch is most definitely a derogatory term and targeted abuse. But guess which word they'll get in trouble over!

Atlantic Dawn

Did it actually happen, any record of it?

themandan6611

Dante7 wrote: »

I find it interesting

I find a lot of things interesting too

Shefwedfan

Any other country and for either statements he should be fired on spot or hand in resignation

Not in Ireland and the current FG gangsters

Run right from the top to the lowest level

eviltwin

Who said it?

Rechuchote

Dante7 wrote: »

The N word in that phrase is an old term with absolutely no derogatory or racist intention. Calling someone a f*ckin bitch is most definitely a derogatory term and targeted abuse. But guess which word they'll get in trouble over!

Um, no.

The phrase is a joking reference (haha, not) to runaway slaves desperately hiding among the logs waiting to be chopped, to evade their pursuers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****_in_the_woodpile

ILoveYourVibes

I do think the N word is different from the word bitch. I don't think you can compare them and I am female.

Rechuchote

Of course it's different. But neither should be used by civilised people.

Ninthlife

Who uses the word dogpile? After using the N word trying to be polite by saying dogpile seems frivilous

Boxing.Fan

Eeny, meeny, miny, moe

Shefwedfan

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I do think the N word is different from the word bitch. I don't think you can compare them and I am female.

I wouldn’t compare the words

What I would say is using either while at work is sackable in every other job so why not for public officials?

Then again to do that Leo the kitten would need to do his job for once

Atlantic Dawn

There should be a €5k fine for using it in this country whether you use it for artistic licence with your tunes or as a racist term.

Roger Hassenforder

Dante7 wrote: »

I find it interesting that a recent complaint about a politician who used the phrases "n*****r in a dogpile", and also used the phrase "f*ckin bitch" directly targeted at another woman, that it was the N word that got the attention.

The N word in that phrase is an old term with absolutely no derogatory or racist intention. Calling someone a f*ckin bitch is most definitely a derogatory term and targeted abuse. But guess which word they'll get in trouble over!

niggardly with the links OP

ILoveYourVibes

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I wouldn’t compare the words

What I would say is using either while at work is sackable in every other job so why not for public officials?

Then again to do that Leo the kitten would need to do his job for once

It was someone in FG? Who?

Shefwedfan

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

It was someone in FG? Who?

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/extra.ie/2019/07/06/news/irish-news/fine-gael-meath-gillian-toole/amp

Atlantic Dawn

Atlantic Dawn wrote:

There should be a €5k fine for using it in this country whether you use it for artistic licence with your tunes or as a racist term.

I hope you are joking. There should be a fine for saying a word?

Haha for **** sake

ILoveYourVibes

Shefwedfan wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/extra.ie/2019/07/06/news/irish-news/fine-gael-meath-gillian-toole/amp

He should be asked to resign.

He obviously has issues.

Odhinn

Dante7 wrote: »

I find it interesting that a recent complaint about a politician who used the phrases "n*****r in a dogpile", and also used the phrase "f*ckin bitch" directly targeted at another woman, that it was the N word that got the attention.

The N word in that phrase is an old term with absolutely no derogatory or racist intention. Calling someone a f*ckin bitch is most definitely a derogatory term and targeted abuse. But guess which word they'll get in trouble over!

....nope.

Dante7

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I do think the N word is different from the word bitch. I don't think you can compare them and I am female.

Do you not think there is a difference between me calling a woman a ****ing bitch and referencing Agatha Christie's Ten little ****?

Squall Leonhart

Old Dr Seuss comic, from 1929:

https://i2.wp.com/www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/racist-dr-seuss-super-169.jpg

How times have changed!

Dante7

Odhinn wrote: »

....nope.

You're just being offended on other people's behalf. Rural Irish people using the phrase ****** in a dog pile is not racist. There is no racist intent. Mens rea!

Franz Von Peppercorn II

We are not Americans so the use of the word here may not have been racist initially, it may have slipped into the vernacular through American influence. It definitely wasn’t racist in the kids rhyme, at least the children using it weren’t racist.

Probably no excuse for using it now.

Be careful - cotton picker is also racist.

blanch152

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Any other country and for either statements he should be fired on spot or hand in resignation

Not in Ireland and the current FG gangsters

Run right from the top to the lowest level

Any other country? are you sure about that?

Last I checked, there were people like Trump and Johnson runnning around as politicians in other countries. And I haven’t even touched on the European hard right.

Odhinn

Dante7 wrote: »

You're just being offended on other people's behalf. Rural Irish people using the phrase ****** in a dog pile is not racist. There is no racist intent. Mens rea!

It would help if you actually read the complaint



"The county councillor who was called ‘the n***** in the woodpile’"
https://extra.ie/2019/07/06/news/irish-news/fine-gael-meath-gillian-toole

riffmongous

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

We are not Americans so the use of the word here may not have been racist initially, it may have slipped into the vernacular through American influence. It definitely wasn’t racist in the kids rhyme, at least the children using it weren’t racist.

Probably no excuse for using it now.

Be careful - cotton picker is also racist.

I can't say I've ever heard of this particular woodpile phrase ever being used before though, just me?

Dante7

Odhinn wrote: »

It would help if you actually read the complaint



"The county councillor who was called ‘the n***** in the woodpile’"
https://extra.ie/2019/07/06/news/irish-news/fine-gael-meath-gillian-toole

I'm familiar with the complaint. I created the thread. I am also very familiar with your type. You are the Owen Jones of Boards. You are a far left misogynist with no regard for women. You would rather jump on a bandwagon and accuse someone of using the N word, rather than the more substantive issue of the real abuse where a woman was called a ****. You are absolutely useless in this debate.

Odhinn

Dante7 wrote: »

I'm familiar with the complaint. I created the thread.

....and misquoted the actual remark made. Well done.

Dante7 wrote: »

I am also very familiar with your type. You are the Owen Jones of Boards. You are a far left misogynist with no regard for women. You would rather jump on a bandwagon and accuse someone of using the N word, rather than the more substantive issue of the real abuse where a woman was called a ****. You are absolutely useless in this debate.

.....I didn't accuse anyone, yer woman did. And both terms are abusive, and one is racist.

circadian

Dante7 wrote: »

I'm familiar with the complaint. I created the thread. I am also very familiar with your type.You are the Owen Jones of Boards. You are a far left misogynist with no regard for women. You would rather jump on a bandwagon and accuse someone of using the N word, rather than the more substantive issue of the real abuse where a woman was called a ****. You are absolutely useless in this debate.

Most people on here are familiar with your type too. Dickheads that like to try to defend the indefensible and play devils advocate. If you genuinely don't see the issue here then maybe you're part of the problem.

Dante7

Odhinn wrote: »

....and misquoted the actual remark made. Well done.






.....I didn't accuse anyone, yer woman did. And both terms are abusive, and one is racist.

Ok. Let's go. Why is "****** in the woodpile" an intentionally racist comment?

It's a phrase that went out with the advent of electricity. To claim victimhood is pathetic.

ILoveYourVibes

Deleted User wrote: »

It's a phrase that went out with the advent of electricity. To claim victimhood is pathetic.

I had never even heard it. I had to look it up to find out what it meant.

Even now i am still not sure.