Random EV thoughts.....

Hot Scooter!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HZ7qh_t46w

innrain

I liked this article from insideev
https://insideevs.com/news/506759/tesla-model3-hyundai-ioniq5-charging/
Quite well documented and explained which could be a really nice starting point for the newbies when looking at charging speeds.
Really liked this chart https://cdn.motor1.com/images/custom/img-2021-tesla-model-3-lr-awd-v3-sc-ucc-20210512.png which helps visualizing the range gain in time vs the starting point of the charge. Then it struck me that they labelled red the speeds below 50kW which is what we normally get at most chargers on this island.
So realistically speaking both cars will need some 75 mins to charge 10-80% blasting the max 45kW available and if you get to the new installed Raption units if someone is charging on AC maybe even 150 minutes. At least we don't need to care about charging speeds as they will be constant all the way so people won't need to educate themselves.

boccy23

Looking at US petrol stations made me think I would never have to that again!

the_amazing_raisin

boccy23 wrote: »

Looking at US petrol stations made me think I would never have to that again!

You'd never get that happening here with our petrol prices! No-one could afford to hoard fuel :eek:

cannco253

UK’s largest EV charging hub set to electrify Brent Cross

https://www.propertyfundsworld.com/2021/05/10/299939/uks-largest-ev-charging-hub-set-electrify-brent-cross

"The chargers, which will be operated and maintained by Franklin Energy on the LiFe Network, will be supplied by EVBox and installed over a number of phases. The first phase, which is due to complete later this year, will see the installation of 50 fast charging points (22kW AC) in the Multi Storey car park and two ultra-rapid charging points (350 kW DC) in the Western overflow car park."

I think Dundrum has 2 working chargers at the moment.

innrain

cannco253 wrote: »

UK’s largest EV charging hub set to electrify Brent Cross

https://www.propertyfundsworld.com/2021/05/10/299939/uks-largest-ev-charging-hub-set-electrify-brent-cross

"The chargers, which will be operated and maintained by Franklin Energy on the LiFe Network, will be supplied by EVBox and installed over a number of phases. The first phase, which is due to complete later this year, will see the installation of 50 fast charging points (22kW AC) in the Multi Storey car park and two ultra-rapid charging points (350 kW DC) in the Western overflow car park."

I think Dundrum has 2 working chargers at the moment.

Actually there are no less than 13 sockets or charging points in Dundrum
4 level 2M Red ecars
7 level 2 Red podpoint free to charge
2 a garo unit free to charge

MJohnston

innrain wrote: »

Actually there are no less than 13 sockets or charging points in Dundrum
4 level 2M Red ecars
7 level 2 Red podpoint free to charge
2 a garo unit free to charge

Level 2M currently inaccessible (maybe will be available again when more retail reopens)

markpb

innrain wrote: »

Actually there are no less than 13 sockets or charging points in Dundrum
4 level 2M Red ecars
7 level 2 Red podpoint free to charge
2 a garo unit free to charge

Where are the agaro units?

DrPhilG

Why the fupp do people have such deep brand loyalty towards a bloody car manufacturer.

Posted on the UK i3 owners group yesterday looking for a little info on my car spec as I'm changing to the ID3 (probably) and got about 25% useful answers and 75% condescending twattery about how the ID3 is slow, boring, cheap, buggy blah blah.

You'd swear I had insulted someone's mother.

ELM327

I mean they arent wrong!

innrain

markpb wrote: »

Where are the agaro units?

Sorry forgot to write the location. Green car park level -2 immediately after the barrier on the left side. Usually ICED

This is the probably best picture to orient yourself

DrPhilG

ELM327 wrote: »

I mean they arent wrong!

Lol

And I'm not wrong when I point out the bottom level 120ah i3 is €46k while the top end ID3 is €42k and has double the range!

liamog

innrain wrote: »

Sorry forgot to write the location. Green car park level -2 immediately after the barrier on the left side. Usually ICED

I use those charge points quite often when I go to Dundrum for a five guys, I don't think I've ever seen them ICED.

cannco253

So it's 9 in total right now, 7 at level 2 Red podpoint free to charge and 2 a garo unit free to charge - are they all still working at the moment?

Red car park has 2,371 parking spaces, green has 454 and add another 310 for Tesco so 3,000+

Even when the 4 on Level 2M red are back that's a very small proportion of the overall number of spaces...

cannco253

For comparison sake Brent Cross has 3,930 + 507 + 671 = 5,108.

I used to leave near there so am aware it's at the end of the motorway, but most people go there for their weekly shopping and a bite to eat.

Dundrum isn't that far from the M50 so could do something similar space and connectivity permitting.

innrain

cannco253 wrote: »

So it's 9 in total right now, 7 at level 2 Red podpoint free to charge and 2 a garo unit free to charge - are they all still working at the moment?

Red car park has 2,371 parking spaces, green has 454 and add another 310 for Tesco so 3,000+

Even when the 4 on Level 2M red are back that's a very small proportion of the overall number of spaces...

I don't disagree with you but ecars units are working just they are not accessible because the carpark is closed off. If you want to do the ratio you have to take out the spaces which are not accessible as well. From the 7 pod-point sockets, one got broken weeks after installation never fixed; I think level 2 red is fenced off as well. This would change after the weekend so I would still use 12/13 in you ratio calculations. As the chargers @ shopping centers go Dundrum is better than Liffey Valley or Blanch just to stay in Dublin. What about Jervis or Ilac with zero?

the_amazing_raisin

DrPhilG wrote: »

Why the fupp do people have such deep brand loyalty towards a bloody car manufacturer.

Posted on the UK i3 owners group yesterday looking for a little info on my car spec as I'm changing to the ID3 (probably) and got about 25% useful answers and 75% condescending twattery about how the ID3 is slow, boring, cheap, buggy blah blah.

You'd swear I had insulted someone's mother.

Oh if yout think BMW are bad, just wait until you join the ranks of ID owners, they're literally willing to forgive anything

My ID.4 isn't even here and I keep telling people how brilliant they are

innrain

innrain wrote: »

I don't disagree with you but ecars units are working just they are not accessible because the carpark is closed off. If you want to do the ratio you have to take out the spaces which are not accessible as well. From the 7 pod-point sockets, one got broken weeks after installation never fixed; I think level 2 red is fenced off as well. This would change after the weekend so I would still use 12/13 in you ratio calculations. As the chargers @ shopping centers go Dundrum is better than Liffey Valley or Blanch just to stay in Dublin. What about Jervis or Ilac with zero?

I suspect the ownerships of battery cars is much higher around Dundrum than in Fonthill or Blachardtown.

liamog

I see a lot of EVs around Dublin 15, mostly Ioniqs Leafs and Zoes

However shopping centre chargers are something you need at destination shopping centres, Dundrum is more of an upmarket shopping centre that you'd make an effort to get to, Liffey Valley and Blanch primarily serve their local areas meaning there is less requirement for destination charging.

MJohnston

Ha, I live much closer to Dundrum, and have to go past it to get to Liffey Valley — but I still go to Liffey Valley often enough (I guess because Dundrum is ****e for shopping trolleys and kids, and parents with kids and shopping trolleys). Blanch can get in the sea

innrain

I don't know how we got tangled in debating SCs quality but l'm not proud As for me all could go to the sea.

liamog

innrain wrote: »

I don't know how we got tangled in debating SCs quality but l'm not proud As for me all could go to the sea.

Maybe if it they were out at sea they'd be far enough away that you'd actually need to charge when you got there. Kildare Village is a location where I thing they need to increase the number of AC chargers.

the_amazing_raisin

liamog wrote: »

Maybe if it they were out at sea they'd be far enough away that you'd actually need to charge when you got there. Kildare Village is a location where I thing they need to increase the number of AC chargers.

No they need a DC charger, the less time spent there the better

kop-end

liamog wrote: »

Maybe if it they were out at sea they'd be far enough away that you'd actually need to charge when you got there. Kildare Village is a location where I thing they need to increase the number of AC chargers.

I second this, Kildare Village need to up their game as they are positioning themselves as an a boutique destination for the whole island, plenty of coach & bus parking.

the_amazing_raisin

MJohnston wrote: »

Blanch can get in the sea

You take that back!!!

liamog

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

No they need a DC charger, the less time spent there the better

Are you mistaking Kildare Village for a motorway service station?

the_amazing_raisin

liamog wrote: »

Are you mistaking Kildare Village for a motorway service station?

No, I'm just not a fan of the place, I feel like it's a bit overrated

the_amazing_raisin

I think we need to rename this thread "Random thoughts" since we've left EVs behind

Busman Paddy Lasty

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

I think we need to rename this thread "Random thoughts" since we've left EVs behind

Note to self. Get some Krispy Kremes later

NyOmnishambles

So it turns out ev owners are a friendly bunch

Like many I was making my first big trip last weekend since I got my ev

I pulled into circle K Athlone to the ionity chargers to try them out and make sure the app was set up right for future use

There was an ID3 in another bay and he was getting out to disconnect and very kindly pointed out that there is a free to use circle K 50kwh charger there also, that is very handy to know about for future use and I very much appreciated him taking the time to mention it

Shortly after an identical ID3 pulled up and came over for a chat about my car a while later so all in all the stop was made more pleasant by the people using the charge points