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    #32
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Deleted User wrote: »
    She's fairly rough looking..

    I'd be willing to give her a good thorough spanking as punishment, as long as she agreed not to hit me back. :D


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    #33
    [Deleted User]
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    Odhinn wrote:
    There's nothing wrong with my posting, just your deliberate mischaracterisation of it.

    Using your words, that you typed, in the context you used is not mischaracterisation.

    You alluded to the fact that Paddy Jackson was NOT guilty of rape was much worse than this person being GUILTY of a violent assault.

    Can you see why that is a little bit silly?


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    #34
    FFred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭FFred


    Let’s have a look at the young lady in question...
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    #35
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,026 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Using your words, that you typed, in the context you used is not mischaracterisation.

    You alluded to the fact that Paddy Jackson was NOT guilty of rape was much worse than this person being GUILTY of a violent assault.

    Can you see why that is a little bit silly?




    He's comparing a case that demanded a trial with a case that can be settled via the poor box.


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    #36
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users Posts: 13,847 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I feel assaulted by them eyebrows...


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    #37
    [Deleted User]
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    Odhinn wrote:
    He's comparing a case that demanded a trial with a case that can be settled via the poor box.

    Yes. And saying that the violent assault should receive a more severe punishment and shouldn't be belittled.

    Violence shouldn't be tolerated.


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    #38
    [Deleted User]
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    Odhinn wrote:
    And you think this is as bad as a rape?

    What was that about? You are comparing a case where they were found not guilty of rape to a case where someone was found guilty of assault.

    Which is worse? Would you prefer to be in the company of someone who is not guilty of rape or someone who is guilty of assault?

    You literally asked if being guilty of assault was worse than not being a rapist.


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    #39
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    She has to pay €6000 to get off. What would you prefer, a prison sentence where it would cost the state money to keep her incarcerated? If she had been a scumbag with previous convictions she would have gotten far less and most likely been given a suspended sentence. It was a fair decision in my opinion.


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    #40
    FFred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭FFred


    From the judge’s personal collection:pac:
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    #41
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    Cee-Jay-Cee wrote:
    She has to pay €6000 to get off. What would you prefer, a prison sentence where it would cost the state money to keep her incarcerated? If she had been a scumbag with previous convictions she would have gotten far less and most likely been given a suspended sentence. It was a fair decision in my opinion.

    I just find it incredibly lenient.


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    #42
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »
    She has to pay €6000 to get off. What would you prefer, a prison sentence where it would cost the state money to keep her incarcerated? If she had been a scumbag with previous convictions she would have gotten far less and most likely been given a suspended sentence. It was a fair decision in my opinion.

    Now she has a clean record, no note will ever be made of the assault so if she reoffends she’s starting from scratch. Surely, at the very least, a conviction and a suspended sentence would have been the right course of action if jail time wasn’t an option.


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    #43
    Ken.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Mod- For those worried about this thread being sub judice I direct you to the judges comments.

    Judge O’Leary said: “It is finished today as far as the court is concerned. It can only be re-entered if €6,000 is not paid.



    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/this-is-a-regrettable-incident--camogie-star-ashling-thompson-ordered-to-pay-6k-for-assaulting-two-women-932897.html

    If she doesn't pay up and is brought back to court then we'll have to lock it.


    Edit to add. Obviously I am not a law talking type guy so I've run this to the legal guys to be sure. They might disagree with me and order this locked.


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    #44
    FFred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭FFred


    Anybody good on the photoshop here ?

    I present the accused and ‘underneath’ her (ahem) , the judge :pac:
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    #45
    Potential-Monke
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    Tbh, you see this the whole time when there's a bit of celebrity involved. The rich and popular get away with it, the scumbags get away with it, but the regular Joe Soap will always be convicted.


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    #46
    jay1988
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    Odhinn wrote: »
    And you think this is as bad as a rape?

    there was no rape in the case you're trying to compare this too.


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    #47
    Ken.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Mod- Moved from AH to CA.


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    #48
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    FFred wrote: »
    Let’s have a look at the young lady in question...
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    Great girl. Takes no nonsense


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    #49
    Love_BBC
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    If you cover the face, remove the tattoos and only look at her legs, she's a goodlooking girl!


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    #50
    FFred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭FFred


    Love_BBC wrote: »
    If you cover the face, remove the tattoos and only look at her legs, she's a goodlooking girl!
    How very dare you. This guy disapproves...

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    #51
    Jupiter Mulligan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭Jupiter Mulligan


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »

    I’m comparing an alleged sexual assault case with a physical assault case where one of the victims received a fractured jaw.

    Not a fractured jaw, but a suspected hairline fracture to the jaw - no medical evidence was produced in support of that claim and the witness explained that she did not follow up with medical attention as she had travelled to Abu Dhabi.


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    #52
    [Deleted User]
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    Jupiter Mulligan wrote: »
    Not a fractured jaw, but a suspected hairline fracture to the jaw - no medical evidence was produced in support of that claim and the witness explained that she did not follow up with medical attention as she had travelled to Abu Dhabi.

    Still not acceptable


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    #53
    Jupiter Mulligan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭Jupiter Mulligan


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Still not acceptable

    Definitely not. But shouldn't have been accepted as evidence without independent verification.


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    #54
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Love_BBC wrote: »
    If you cover the face, remove the tattoos and only look at her legs, she's a goodlooking girl!

    My God, the bitchiness in here.

    She’s clearly fairly hot. Not that keen on tattoos myself. Or violence. Or camogie for that matter.

    Buts she’s hot enough.


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    #55
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Judge is a silver fox, hisself.


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    #56
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    FFred wrote: »
    Let’s have a look at the young lady in question...
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    Those eyebrows wtf


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    #57
    Icemancometh
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    It does seem a bit lousy that someone can pay €6k and gets to assault you.


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    #58
    ligerdub
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    Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »
    She has to pay €6000 to get off. What would you prefer, a prison sentence where it would cost the state money to keep her incarcerated? If she had been a scumbag with previous convictions she would have gotten far less and most likely been given a suspended sentence. It was a fair decision in my opinion.

    So if she does this again will she still be not a scumbag with no previous convictions? Repeat ad infinitum.

    Define scumbag anyway. I mean correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not like her behaviour here is discernibly different from what one might expect from in your words, a scumbag.

    Don't get me wrong I'm not one for demanding draconian punishment for people who make mistakes, but a sense of atonement and reconciling your mistakes is pretty much a prerequisite for recovering from such a mistake. Slapping a fine of €6,000, which she might end up getting help in paying off (admittedly in addition to loss of income she's probably facing from reduction in promotional opportunities), is not exactly falling into that bracket.

    I hope she can continue her career and life without much of an issue, but it doesn't really seem like she's all that sorry for what she did, and even the judge said he felt it was probably lenient. There hasn't been any real deterrent to her doing this again save for the fact that it was probably a large use of her time over the last few months.

    Maybe they should have substituted the fine with some community service or something.


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    #59
    [Deleted User]
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    Like, she looks like she's about to batter the head off someone with that hurl..

    Or sorry, camogie stick..


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    #60
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    This is one tough broad.

    She could get a job collecting debts for the Kinahans.


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    #61
    greenspurs
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Like, she looks like she's about to batter the head off someone with that hurl.. hurley

    Or sorry, camogie stick.. hurley

    FYP :)
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