The price of fame ?

greenspurs

So you can buy your way out ,
Judge tells her "the conviction disappears, if you pay€6000"

Crazy ….



https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/this-is-a-regrettable-incident--camogie-star-ashling-thompson-ordered-to-pay-6k-for-assaulting-two-women-932897.html

branie2

Very high

dudara

As I understand, offering to pay compensation or making Poor Box donations has been an accepted way to avoid convictions for many years.

dickangel

The judge seems very smitten with her.

Ten of Swords

What would you deem an adequate sanction op?

Fr_Dougal

I wonder will there be the same outrage over this as there was over Paddy Jackson & Co., I somehow doubt it.

Odhinn

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I wonder will there be the same outrage over this as there was over Paddy Jackson & Co., I somehow doubt it.

There's no fucking comparison between the two.

Hedgelayer

Obviously the judge doesn't take much of the cross bar to seriously...

If you get my pun....

Mike9832

dickangel wrote: »

The judge seems very smitten with her.

He did

Did she even apologise?

She comes across as a right idiot in this article, made of steel.


https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-features/cork-camogie-star-ashling-thompson-my-dark-places-35178200.html

Fr_Dougal

Odhinn wrote: »

There's no fucking comparison between the two.

True. One party was found not guilty, the other was guilty and the judge has offered a chance to buy their way out of a conviction.

Odhinn

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

True. One party was found not guilty, the other was guilty and the judge has offered a chance to buy their way out of a conviction.

You're comparing a rape case with a number of accused with a woman throwing a dig or two in the pub?

ILoveYourVibes

Judge O’Leary said: “If paid it will disappear. No convictions. It disappears into a fog. There is no Probation Act, no strike-out. It can only be re-entered if the money is not paid (by September 30).” Judge O’Leary said: “It is finished today as far as the court is concerned. It can only be re-entered if €6,000 is not paid.

“It may appear that what I am doing is relatively lenient. I cannot understand the level of attention from the media in relation to this. Maybe I am out of touch. I cannot understand what the fascination is that brings so many of the media to court

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/this-is-a-regrettable-incident--camogie-star-ashling-thompson-ordered-to-pay-6k-for-assaulting-two-women-932897.html

Fr_Dougal

Odhinn wrote: »

You're comparing a rape case with a number of accused with a woman throwing a dig or two in the pub?

I’m comparing an alleged sexual assault case with a physical assault case where one of the victims received a fractured jaw.

A ‘dig or two in the pub’? Jesus. I thought we’d moved past this LAD attitude to assault.

I suppose you’ll tell me next that it’s okay to give your g/f or wife ‘a dig or two’

ILoveYourVibes

She obviously needs anger management.

She's fairly rough looking..

Franz Von Peppercorn II

[Deleted User] wrote: »

She's fairly rough looking..

You’re no oil painting yourself, love.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Well, maybe a Picasso.

Odhinn

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I’m comparing an alleged sexual assault case with a physical assault case where one of the victims received a fractured jaw.

A ‘dig or two in the pub’? Jesus. I thought we’d moved past this LAD attitude to assault.

And you think this is as bad as a rape?

Blinky Plebum

She's not really that famous.

ILoveYourVibes

Blinky Plebum wrote: »

She's not really that famous.

She's ye know ...Ashling. From the thingy

Bobblehats

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

She's ye know ...Ashling. From the thingy

Oh the camaugue roish yeh

Fr_Dougal

Odhinn wrote: »

And you think this is as bad as a rape?

You’ve already set your stall out by calling a physical assault against these women as a ‘throwing a dig or two’, you seem to think it’s okay carry out unprovoked attacks on women, I don’t.

Odhinn

Odhinn wrote:

And you think this is as bad as a rape?

No. He thinks being guilty of assault is worse than being not guilty of rape... Which it is.

Odhinn

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

You’ve already set your stall out by calling a physical assault against these women as a ‘throwing a dig or two’, you seem to think it’s okay carry out unprovoked attacks on women, I don’t.

Bollocks, tbh.


You're whinging about the two is if theres a comparison - there isn't.

Galwayguy35

Whatever about jail time she should have it recorded as a conviction, she sounds like a right scobe.

ligerdub

Odhinn wrote: »

Bollocks, tbh.


You're whinging about the two is if theres a comparison - there isn't.

Let's start small on this

https://youtu.be/MMiKyfd6hA0

It's really not difficult

Galwayguy35

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Whatever about jail time she should have it recorded as a conviction, she sounds like a right scobe.

There is one standard for those in the public eye, and another standard for the plebs.

Odhinn

Odhinn wrote:

You're whinging about the two is if theres a comparison - there isn't.

We are all in agreement. One case is guilty the other is not guilty. No comparison.

The main difference is the person who was found not guilty of rape has their life ruined and the person found guilty of a vicious assault against women (or a few digs if you are that way inclined) gets a chance to pay their way out of it.

rob316

I'm from cork never even heard of her.

Fr_Dougal

Odhinn wrote: »

Bollocks, tbh.


You're whinging about the two is if theres a comparison - there isn't.

Might I suggest that you visit a woman’s refuge, as your silly question there. See what kind of a response you get. What would you tell the victims of physical assault? ‘Ah sure it was only a dig or two, shur isn’t rape a lot worse’.

Both are despicable crimes.

I had expected a higher standard of posting from you, Odhinn.

Odhinn

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Might I suggest that you visit a woman’s refuge, as your silly question there. See what kind of a response you get. What would you tell the victims of physical assault? ‘Ah sure it was only a dig or two, shur isn’t rape a lot worse’.

Both are despicable crimes.

I had expected a higher standard of posting from you, Odhinn.

There's nothing wrong with my posting, just your deliberate mischaracterisation of it.

BattleCorp

Deleted User wrote: »

She's fairly rough looking..

I'd be willing to give her a good thorough spanking as punishment, as long as she agreed not to hit me back.

Odhinn

Odhinn wrote:

There's nothing wrong with my posting, just your deliberate mischaracterisation of it.

Using your words, that you typed, in the context you used is not mischaracterisation.

You alluded to the fact that Paddy Jackson was NOT guilty of rape was much worse than this person being GUILTY of a violent assault.

Can you see why that is a little bit silly?

FFred

Let’s have a look at the young lady in question...

Odhinn

Deleted User wrote: »

Using your words, that you typed, in the context you used is not mischaracterisation.

You alluded to the fact that Paddy Jackson was NOT guilty of rape was much worse than this person being GUILTY of a violent assault.

Can you see why that is a little bit silly?

He's comparing a case that demanded a trial with a case that can be settled via the poor box.

Potential-Monke

I feel assaulted by them eyebrows...

Odhinn

Odhinn wrote:

He's comparing a case that demanded a trial with a case that can be settled via the poor box.

Yes. And saying that the violent assault should receive a more severe punishment and shouldn't be belittled.

Violence shouldn't be tolerated.

Odhinn

Odhinn wrote:

And you think this is as bad as a rape?

What was that about? You are comparing a case where they were found not guilty of rape to a case where someone was found guilty of assault.

Which is worse? Would you prefer to be in the company of someone who is not guilty of rape or someone who is guilty of assault?

You literally asked if being guilty of assault was worse than not being a rapist.

Cee-Jay-Cee

She has to pay €6000 to get off. What would you prefer, a prison sentence where it would cost the state money to keep her incarcerated? If she had been a scumbag with previous convictions she would have gotten far less and most likely been given a suspended sentence. It was a fair decision in my opinion.

FFred

From the judge’s personal collection:pac:

Cee-Jay-Cee

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote:

She has to pay €6000 to get off. What would you prefer, a prison sentence where it would cost the state money to keep her incarcerated? If she had been a scumbag with previous convictions she would have gotten far less and most likely been given a suspended sentence. It was a fair decision in my opinion.

I just find it incredibly lenient.

Fr_Dougal

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

She has to pay €6000 to get off. What would you prefer, a prison sentence where it would cost the state money to keep her incarcerated? If she had been a scumbag with previous convictions she would have gotten far less and most likely been given a suspended sentence. It was a fair decision in my opinion.

Now she has a clean record, no note will ever be made of the assault so if she reoffends she’s starting from scratch. Surely, at the very least, a conviction and a suspended sentence would have been the right course of action if jail time wasn’t an option.

Ken.

Mod- For those worried about this thread being sub judice I direct you to the judges comments.

Judge O’Leary said: “It is finished today as far as the court is concerned. It can only be re-entered if €6,000 is not paid.



https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/this-is-a-regrettable-incident--camogie-star-ashling-thompson-ordered-to-pay-6k-for-assaulting-two-women-932897.html

If she doesn't pay up and is brought back to court then we'll have to lock it.


Edit to add. Obviously I am not a law talking type guy so I've run this to the legal guys to be sure. They might disagree with me and order this locked.

FFred

Anybody good on the photoshop here ?

I present the accused and ‘underneath’ her (ahem) , the judge :pac:

Potential-Monke

Tbh, you see this the whole time when there's a bit of celebrity involved. The rich and popular get away with it, the scumbags get away with it, but the regular Joe Soap will always be convicted.

jay1988

Odhinn wrote: »

And you think this is as bad as a rape?

there was no rape in the case you're trying to compare this too.

Ken.

Mod- Moved from AH to CA.

Edgware

FFred wrote: »

Let’s have a look at the young lady in question...

Great girl. Takes no nonsense

Love_BBC

If you cover the face, remove the tattoos and only look at her legs, she's a goodlooking girl!

FFred

Love_BBC wrote: »

If you cover the face, remove the tattoos and only look at her legs, she's a goodlooking girl!

How very dare you. This guy disapproves...

Jupiter Mulligan

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I’m comparing an alleged sexual assault case with a physical assault case where one of the victims received a fractured jaw.

Not a fractured jaw, but a suspected hairline fracture to the jaw - no medical evidence was produced in support of that claim and the witness explained that she did not follow up with medical attention as she had travelled to Abu Dhabi.