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Your funny feelings are unfounded.
I got excited and thought a mass reveal would help the village. I still do, but I'm willing to go with the village.
I thought Chandler had no bullets left, meaning he was useless. However I now understand that that's up in the air, and so useful for us to bait baddies with.
Either way, my motives were clear. Get more info out in the open - help the village. .
I’m not convinced , I’m keeping an eye on you....
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Gertrude WW wrote: »I’m not convinced , I’m keeping an eye on you....
Gerty! You don't look like a rachel!!!!!!!0 -
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Gertrude WW wrote: »Just out for a run, what if one of eddies chaos prizes was the list of names they could use?
When did Gabriel come out and when when were walkie rallies given to you Phil?
31oC baby!
Gabriel came out close to lynch thinking it would save her iirc.0 -
Gertrude WW wrote: »Just out for a run, what if one of eddies chaos prizes was the list of names they could use?
When did Gabriel come out and when when were walkie rallies given to you Phil?
31oC baby!
Gertrude...you're a bearded lady!
Are you suggesting that the SK might not have a name to claim? Or that Eddie had 2 prizes to give in Walkie Talkie day?0 -
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Has anyone read the Celstine Prophecies?
Esentially it talks about how coincidences are divine pieces of guidance and they should not be ignored.
Well.... As I was writing my reads list, my episode of Billions finished and a new show was advertised...
Guess who the lead actor was.....? Eddie Bloody Cahill
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Isla ISO
Day Zero
Day of fluff. Does point out that lack of a priest is good for waganomics (agreed, even though I can't do them).
Lots of banter - nothing here that I'd feel strongly about one way or the other.
Bit of tyre kicking at holly around her calling out other posters.
I really like day 0 Isla - pushing Gabs about why she's questioning Gertie but not Wendy when Babs called them both village, asking Holly why she pushed Derry for a post (admittedly Derry flipped red, but still, I like her fluff and more serious posting). Nothing really wolfy or non-wolfy yet though.
I too like my Day 0 posting
Day 1
#451 "Ooh, could both the wolves and sk have both tried to kill Barbara. Flavour mentions their laugh which is Janice's method of killing, but Barbara was stabbed first." Agreed Isla
#454 On the pre-munch shot "If Barry found Mindy then they get a shot so it could have been them." I think we decided later [katie - rip] that this was unlikely as barry probably didn't get to look for mindy til day phase 1
Bit of back and forward and decides wendy was probably a vig shot
#593 "Not really sure I'd call it a tool in the village's arsenal, but a handy feature of what is likely a lack of backroom communication between the wolves and the SK." I love this kind of post Isla - I know it's mechanics, but it's thoughtful and i like it
Asks about FFAs and then more mechanics talk and back and forth with Katie about being pockety
15.25 #705 "I asked that a while ago and seemed to be ignored by most, if not all people. I think FFAs are probably a good thing, however flimsy some of the reasons are. I can collate them around 7 or so.
For those who haven't done them before you give your top three suspects along with reasonings for them all. You put # FFA 1 for today (without the spaces), and then tomorrow it would be # FFA 2 (again without the spaces). This helps people searching the thread."
More helpful mechanics and promoting FFAs... still no reads on other players though
17.44 #931 "As one of the highest posters not everyone I have said as been particularly useful. Although the lowest posters do need to get a bit more involved."
See, it's ALL been mechanics and chat Isla. You're superhelpful but you're a great player and there hasn't been an inkling of a read
I'm not sure I'm who you think I am but okay.
ISla's been open about this, but she then collates FFAs and doesn't provide one, nor reads.
20.37 #1073
"I can't be online all the time Holly and Angel.
I am leaning towards believing that Phil knows who sent them the gift and that it is the good one.
That would make Katie's gift a gift from a shaman. Although I'm confused here because perhaps the shaman made eva post that post."
With hindsight, we know this to be wrong, but did Isla know that
I did not
20.40 #1083
"It'd be bizarre for the mods to put in the duck but not the chick, so I reckon it is a role. I don't really buy you causing this and then claiming chick."
Now, with Steve's revelation, this looks dodgy
20.51 #1121
"In previous games the wolves did not get a list of characters that were in play. The wolves/sk had to guess which characters they could claim and sometimes their claim was evaluated based on whether the character was likely to be in the game."
Now Isla, I'm fairly sure that you know about the game where the SK was given a name that wasn't being used in the game. I think you're as big a fan of reading backrooms as I am. This post is the first thing that's really felt hairy to me.
I don't recall that game. Again I don't think I am who you think I am - not that it matters other than you're making judgements based on who I may be. I do however recall a game where a serial killer had a guess at a character name and people debated as to whether that person would have been included.
Conor calls the above out and Isla backtracks
"Sorry, I didn't quite mean that to come across as they definitely didn't get names. Just that it's quite possible they didn't because they haven't always in the past."
Now posting a lot of defence about perceived low posting (I hate doing ISOs on high posters) and not doing an FFA
ISla does some Waganomics
"I'd say a fair amount depends on whether Gabriel is good or not. If a wolf I'd say there are two voters in the Tegan voters, with Gabriel being one of them. If not then I wouldn't be surprised if there is only one in the Tegan/Gabriel voters with the others spread out amongst the other votes.
I also can't see Holly and Gabriel being on the same team, or Angus and Gabriel being on the same team."
Ok.... if Isla is Mindy then she's going to throw us off by placing votes elsewhere, so we should be looking elsewhere. If not a wolf, then tihs implicates Abigail
If Isla is not Mindy, then she doesn't see either Holly or Angus being on a team with Gabs due to voting last on him. Fair.
#1435 "Why would Henry shoot Fiona? They weren't on their FFA? Seems to have been what happened though.
Pure guesses here but based on that I'd be leaning on Brendan as potentially wolf as it was a vote for an 'outlier' villager.
Four down today is certainly not ideal." first read really - brendan wolfy
"Then my view of Gabriel is that if they're a wolf then Katie is also. I'm conflicted on that because of the duck/chick thing." Oh Jesus.
"Yeah, it's based on Katie's late vote for Gabriel. Although I've actually read both of them as likely good thus far. So the thing that'll change my mind on Katie is if Gabriel turns up bad." apparently has read both as likely good so far
discussing waganomics and votes
"Because Holly isn't flipped yet. If Holly is good then yes I'd mention Jake as a potential suspect. Jake still is a potential suspect but didn't stand out to me because Holly is still unknown." unfortunately this also looks bad
more FFA compilation and chat
"I'm surprised you haven't given your friends name alongside role oracle. If I've missed it apologies." pushing Katie for friends name
I was trying to see if her claim had weight
has a bit of a go at angus on miscounting wolves (again)
Questions my % posting numbers - doesn't push back too hard and even offers to table them for me. I can confirm that his % might have dropped but I am still losing the will to live going through these posts
more waganomics, together with a read on abi:
"Based on this, and assuming Katie/Gabriel/Brendan are good. No counter claims yet. That doesn't mean they are good but until we've more information I'm goign to go with it. I'm good, so that would just leave Abigail on Tegan. I can't see a wolf posting like she did last night, so for the moment she's good. The wolves wouldn't all gang up on Gabriel so there's max one there. Which leaves two amongst Jake, Derry, Phil, Des, Orla, Conor, Ewan, Gertrude and Liam. I'll have more fleshed out thoughts on that group shortly."
isla does some reads
"First thought about Desmond - early shade turning into early pocket attempt."
"Then these read lists. Far too many wolves and I don't understand some of the people they say are village."
bit of shade at Gertie and brendan:
"I wonder if this is Gertrude congratulating Barbara whilst trying to hide her disappointed at wastin a kill/munch."
more good thoughts on gabs
"Gabriel claimed chick, and hasn't been countered. Duck was in the game so likely chick is too.
Katie claimed Paolo, although spelled it Paulo. Hasn't been countered. She says she didn't do this voluntarily.
Brendan claimed Monica, hasn't been countered. He is the most clear I have.
I haven't cleared Gabriel or Katie. I'd making a guess that they are both good and working based on that, until we get more information."
"I'm trying to work out who to vote for. Desmond potentially, but probably not. Don't have anything strong enough."
this post literally says nothing
Some back and forth supporting vern and saying that if isla was seer, he would peek person they were leaving back room to - sensible
FFA2
"#FFA2
Angus - Something doesn't sit well with me about the 4 wolves things.
Conor - really went after the win conditions thing with Katie. She's good, seems a nice excuse to suspect someone when you know they're good
Orla - Not sure here either but think it'll be someone off the two main wagons."
I could be biased as i'm on this, but just "meh"
"Chick hasn't been countered and is likely in the game - either as someone role or been provided by the mods as Conor suggests.
Marcel is a bit more up in the air about whether to believe or not. Yes there were other animals but not exactly proof they'd be in the game."
this whole chick thing again. Sigh
Yes, I'm surprised they were told that the chick could be claimed as a role, unless it was just coincidence. Because once they hear duck then they knew chick was probably in the game (that's if they hadn't been told) so wouldn't have claimed it.
responding to conor's point re. evils having names as proved by marcel:
"Fair point Conor. That does make me trust Gabriel a bit less but overall I've had a good impression from them."
"Well I'm told I'm not providing any reads. You can still see the facts from my tables through the green and red. Then I'm quite open about other judgements I've made." talking about providing reads on people through colours in tables. Isla! I can't evaluate your reads throguh colour! I've stopped doing that now - thanks for letting me know Angus
I'm on this morning's posts now. I won't quote 2 pages of them (you all have the search function) but I'm finding the tone a bit more defensive/aggressive [in a god way]. Good to see you this morning Isla!
"I've left my hunches out of this one, but I'm leaning towards Phil, Desmond, Orla and Conor as the potential remaining wolf/wolves. Orla seems one of the least likely amongst them because I doubt two wolves jumped on Jake late. I'd say there was one on him early - potentially Conor. I can't see Phil being a wolf and voting with Derry day one and Jake day two."
you love me really isla
All Good points:
"If I didn't know I'd be good there would be an extremely convincing argument to be made that I am Mindy and voted to save Gabriel on the first night. It's not the case.
We'll find out if Mindy has been converted soon enough I suppose. Depends on the munch. "
"Are named NRVs coming out really narrowing the pool though?"
"I was tempted to do the same until I realised that Mindy (if converted) may not have been converted until after that lynch"
Thoughts [finally)
Day zero - fluff and mechanics.
Day 1 - Fluff and mechanics. Pokes a couple of people but nothing significant. Collates FFAs and doesn't do them (I know this was dicussed but I still don't like it).
Isla is a big fan of chick role and hence Gabs, which turned out to be wrong. Pushed Katie for role name. Didn't think Jake was suspicious.
Very few reads - Brendan, Abi and Des but they're not exactly in depth. Has a bit of a pop at Holly and Angus. It's fine, but... I just don't like it.
Look, maybe I'm biased. I was on Isla's FFA2 so I can't rule that out. I just think that the sudden drop in posting %-wise from day 0 to day 1 and 2 was suspicious, they've done very few reads, only one FFA and have not really been that aggressive in wolf-searching. For the the second-highest poster, Isla is only really getting involved now - he was helpful earlier, but around mechanics, not around his thoughts on people.
This is what makes me think you don't know who I am
I'd love if someone else could take a look at Isla (and i'm going to go and review Katie's ISO), but I don't like it.
You say there was a sudden drop in posting, percentage wise but I remained the sixth highest posters by your figures. I've only done one FFA, out of a possible two. I'll go back and check how many others are in that category. I've tried my best to look at voting patterns but again we only have two lynches thus far and one of them was almost a landslide. Adding to that we're now looking for the SK, who would be hard to pick from votes, and maybe Mindy (presumably we are looking for her) who may not have been converted until after the first lynch so the vote analysis is next to useless unfortunately. I'll do my best to do some reads elsewhere though.0 -
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Has anyone read the Celstine Prophecies?
Esentially it talks about how coincidences are divine pieces of guidance and they should not be ignored.
Well.... As I was writing my reads list, my episode of Billions finished and a new show was advertised...
Guess who the lead actor was.....? Eddie Bloody Cahill
And then what happened?0 -
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Someone may wish to check this.
12 left. At worst 10 v 1 v 1
Worst case here
Lynch villager (will happen if you lynch me)
9 v 1 v 1
Two munches/kills both villagers
7 v 1 v 1
Lynch villager
6 v 1 v 1
Two munches/kills both villagers
5 v 1 v 1
Lynch villager
4 v 1 v 1
Two munches/kills both villagers
2 v 1 v 1
In this scenario we'd actually need to lynch the villager and hope the SK and Mindy kill each other for the win.
So we've three at least lynch attempts before we lose, excluding any bullets.0 -
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Gertrude WW wrote: »Just out for a run, what if one of eddies chaos prizes was the list of names they could use?
When did Gabriel come out and when when were walkie rallies given to you Phil?
31oC baby!
My mom always said never speak to naked men on the internet....0 -
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