Royal Ascot Day 4

longshotvalue

BumperD wrote: »

You only bet small so emptying an already empty clip doesn’t amount to much

Ture, the clip has been empty for a while. I won a few quid on that Fanaar yesterday and stuck the lot on japan (for me a big bet).


Had a few quid on that yank speedball in the first as well, (paddy power shop near the office).

PhuckHugh22

If you take an opinion on something. Dont change it because the bookies priced up some special. A lot of the time it is just the traders taking a stand.
The correct way to play it is to check the Betfair odds which is 2.06x2.42. Which is just under 4/1 with no commision. There is value there.

That being said it is still a 4/1 shot so it only happens 20% of the time. The problem is people expect these things to be 50:50 chances and when they lose there is a conspiracy that the bookies knew something.

ASOT

Went with Exclusivity e/w at 25s in the first, neck second to Good Vibes when giving 4lbs seems like a good marker considering the money down for Galadriel.

The Tetrarch

14:30 Chili Petin 32.00
I can't watch it without a bet.

Lady Haywire

Almost too late!
Galadriel, Private Secretary, Khaadem, Castle lady, Layaleena, Collide.

BumperD

aidankkk wrote: »

Ture, the clip has been empty for a while. I won a few quid on that Fanaar yesterday and stuck the lot on japan (for me a big bet).


Had a few quid on that yank speedball in the first as well, (paddy power shop near the office).

I may prove wrong in time (usually do) but I suspect the derby form will fall apart in time with the exception of the winner who had plenty left at the finish , they finished in a heap behind which is not a good sign. I only just looked at the 3.05 jack Yeats 33/1 the outsider of O Briens thought that would be your pick .

bludcrazetiger

backed the fave here in Daahyeh.

BorneTobyWilde

Moon of Love
one I LIKE in first.

BorneTobyWilde

That's a good win off of it's previous win. TO win in such a large field like that is a huge positive, could be a star in the making.

Slattsy

Aroha each way for me in the first.

PhuckHugh22

Jesus those Ward yokes have stunk the place out all week. I dont know is it the jockeys or the way the horses are trained. But they literally just run the guts out of them for 4 furlongs and they are dead on their feet for the last furlong or 2.

IAMAMORON

PhuckHugh22 wrote: »

Jesus those Ward yokes have stunk the place out all week. I dont know is it the jockeys or the way the horses are trained. But they literally just run the guts out of them for 4 furlongs and they are dead on their feet for the last furlong or 2.

Your spot on. They are essentially 4f sprinters. They have them broken in and on the gallops a good 4 -5 months before here. They whip the **** out of them, very few become 3 yr olds.

BorneTobyWilde

Humanitarian for me EW here.

PhuckHugh22

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Your spot on. They are essentially 4f sprinters. They have them broken in and on the gallops a good 4 -5 months before here. They whip the **** out of them, very few become 3 yr olds.

Ya i dont bet them. Mainly as i dont really buy into the hype and i definitely dont know anything about them. But id be fairly miffed if i had backed one of them and the jockeys literally had the gun to the head from the minute they left the stalls.

I guess you know what you are getting if you do follow one.

BorneTobyWilde

Japan a class apart.

bludcrazetiger

pissed up

Francie Barrett

Pretty awful ride from Moore, the horse got him out of trouble there.

TheMilkyPirate

That's the last time I ever let someone else's opinion change mine. Had a big double (by my standard) on Japan and Hermosa but cashed out after reading the racing post this morning. A fool.

Mgoraf

Was hoping he'd be running next week instead of today!

The White Wolf

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Pretty awful ride from Moore, the horse got him out of trouble there.

The ride was standard from Moore this week; settle at the back and hope the cards fall right.

Mostly Harmless

He kept the horse wide out of trouble and won well. Not sure what the problem was.

The White Wolf

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

He kept the horse wide out of trouble and won well. Not sure what the problem was.

I'm not saying that specific ride was a bad one but it was the same one I've seen all week regardless of the horse. He's been riding strangely.

jkbkhhho7t

Get Moore of those horses two stinkers in a row

jkbkhhho7t

Get Moore of those horses, two absolute shockers in a row

Johner

What did he do wrong there? Horse wasn’t good enough.

sham69

Well that's my Moore treble gone

jkbkhhho7t

Johner wrote: »

What did he do wrong there? Horse wasn’t good enough.

Absolute crap, finding trouble in everything he rides and switching in an out the whole time looking for room

TheMilkyPirate

He did nothing wrong there. If the horse was good enough he gave it every chance to win

Mostly Harmless

If you're blaming Moore for that on Ten Sovereigns then you can only be talking from your pocket

HurlyBurly

As much as everyone loves to blame Moore, he's only doing exactly what O'Brien tells him. Would probably be better off if O'Brien stayed away and let the jockeys race as they see it. Better coach than game day manager.
Or get the likes of Dettori who would just ignore whatever O'Brien says and go do his own thing.