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Pro14 Season 2019-2020

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    #812
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,605 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    The Cheetahs could potentially sign Johan Goosen as well. After all that nonsense with his faux retirement to get out of Racing...

    https://twitter.com/DjRossouw87/status/1251453216811880449?s=19

    He made a couple of appearances for the Cheetahs before he joined Montpelier and was actually decent for them, but it sounds like he just doesn't like France at all despite the money if he's looking for another early release.


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    #813
    Eod100
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    Glasgow head coach thinks league should be finished and title given to Leinster.

    https://twitter.com/SDM_Robertson/status/1255240800713261057


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    #814
    Burkie1203
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Glasgow head coach thinks league should be finished and title given to Leinster.

    https://twitter.com/SDM_Robertson/status/1255240800713261057

    I think we are not too far from this season being declared done.


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    #815
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,650 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    I think we are not too far from this season being declared done.

    Yup. Not sure how qualification will work for best season"s CC, based on final position maybe? Looking like it could impact next season at this rate tbh


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    #816
    jacothelad
    Registered Users Posts: 5,907 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    I think we are not too far from this season being declared done.


    I think they should agregate the two conferences together and call it over. Give the League to Leinster.
    Leinster average points per game x 21 = 98.5
    Edinburgh = 75.9
    Munster = 72.7
    Ulster = 71.7


    That seems a fair way to get it done.


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    #817
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    What do they do with season ticket holders etc. It's not as easy as just saying it's done imo


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    #818
    Cookiemunster
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    Synode wrote: »
    What do they do with season ticket holders etc. It's not as easy as just saying it's done imo

    They could discount your next ST. TBH I'm not at this stage too worried about money that I spent a year ago. In these extraordinary circumstance I doubt many would be.


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    #819
    troyzer
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    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    They could discount your next ST. TBH I'm not at this stage too worried about money that I spent a year ago. In these extraordinary circumstance I doubt many would be.

    I assumed I wasn't going to get my money back.

    But I think a credit against your renewal is the obvious way to go. But a lot of people aren't going to renew, they'll have to be refunded.


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    #820
    OldRio
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    Synode wrote: »
    What do they do with season ticket holders etc. It's not as easy as just saying it's done imo

    Well the choice is ending the Season now or trying to organise the remaining fixtures.

    There is no end date in sight for this Covid 19. There are five different countries involved in the competition. Each has different medical guidance, if not legislation regarding the outbreak. Logistics would be a nightmare if not impossible.
    If a line is drawn under last season at least teams can focus on next season, if it happens.

    As for Season tickets I have no idea but I'm sure the fans and clubs will come to some mutual accommodation.

    Strange times we live in.


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    #821
    Buer
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    The only way I can see this season having any more rugby is if they go straight to semi finals right now or a final.

    They cannot play out multiple weeks of an international competition even if it's behind closed doors and waits until June or July.


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    #822
    UAEguy2020
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Yup. Not sure how qualification will work for best season"s CC, based on final position maybe? Looking like it could impact next season at this rate tbh

    We can’t give the media any ideas, if they had their way this virus would stay with us for ever.


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    #823
    Eod100
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    UAEguy2020 wrote: »
    We can’t give the media any ideas, if they had their way this virus would stay with us for ever.

    Think I'll go with what public health officials say and do. They're not known for sensationalism tbf.


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    #824
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    Is now not the perfect time to align the world rugby calendar. Finish this season by the end of the year and start a new one in Feb or whatever.


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    #825
    Cookiemunster
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    Synode wrote: »
    Is now not the perfect time to align the world rugby calendar. Finish this season by the end of the year and start a new one in Feb or whatever.

    Not that simple. Contracts in the NH run July 1st to June 30th. Half the pro rugby players in Europe (and a lot of coaches and other staff) would be out of contract half way through the season. TV contracts are also based around a Sep -Jun season. Harmonisation can't occur overnight.


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    #826
    AdamD
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    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    Not that simple. Contracts in the NH run July 1st to June 30th. Half the pro rugby players in Europe (and a lot of coaches and other staff) would be out of contract half way through the season. TV contracts are also based around a Sep -Jun season. Harmonisation can't occur overnight.
    These problems will always exist though. Now probably is the best time to look into harmonisation seeing as all of those contracts are probably up in the air anyway


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    #827
    awec
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    I'll be totally honest and say I am not missing the pro14 in the slightest. I genuinely would not care if the season was over right now.

    Just kill the season and move on. Give the trophy to Leinster.

    And give me my refund.


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    #828
    Former Former
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    I don't even want the trophy. It's utterly meaningless. Just put a line through the season and start planning for next year.


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    #829
    Dave_The_Sheep
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    If it was a straight league, fair enough, maybe I could see the logic even though you wouldn't want it that way given the number of games left. But in a competition with playoffs after the league part finishes, nah.


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    #830
    CatFromHue
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    I do want a trophy but I don't want any of the players to be happy when they get it, just like Girvan Dempsey was

    Girvan-trophy-Thomond.gif

    no touching it either


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    #831
    Richie_Rich89
    Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Richie_Rich89


    Just give it to Munster. It's been so long since they won a trophy.


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    #832
    AdamD
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    awec wrote: »
    I'll be totally honest and say I am not missing the pro14 in the slightest. I genuinely would not care if the season was over right now.

    Just kill the season and move on. Give the trophy to Leinster.

    And give me my refund.

    I do miss it, though not overly bothered if they finish it or not. With the team ownership structures they're probably in a unique position to end it without much challenge.


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    #833
    thomond2006
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    https://www.edinburghrugby.org/the-clubhouse/2019-20-leavers-announced

    Departures from Edinburgh. John Barclay only made 14 appearances in two seasons.


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    #834
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    https://www.edinburghrugby.org/the-clubhouse/2019-20-leavers-announced

    Departures from Edinburgh. John Barclay only made 14 appearances in two seasons.

    Is it just me or is that a strangely written statement. It's almost disrespectfully blunt?


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    #835
    thomond2006
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Is it just me or is that a strangely written statement. It's almost disrespectfully blunt?

    On Barclay in particular or the overall statement? I would have thought the quotes from RC cover the pleasantries.


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    #836
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,650 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Pro14 still talking about returning for end of this season. Think they should just draw a line under it at this stage and plan for next season. https://www.the42.ie/pro14-season-update-5093129-May2020/?utm_source=shortlink


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    #837
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,830 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Unfortunately they can't plan for next season as they've no idea when or if it will start. As it is the 3 three Southern provinces know they can't return to training until at least August 10th, which means preseason starts a minimum 6 weeks late. If the hiatus was to last into winter the simplest option could be to finish this season (playing all remaining games) during 2020/21 and return to normal for 2021/22.


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    #838
    Buer
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    They can resume training on June 10th but would be limited in what they can do and break into groups. August refers to playing matches and having contact.


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    #839
    Digifriendly
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    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    Unfortunately they can't plan for next season as they've no idea when or if it will start. As it is the 3 three Southern provinces know they can't return to training until at least August 10th, which means preseason starts a minimum 6 weeks late. If the hiatus was to last into winter the simplest option could be to finish this season (playing all remaining games) during 2020/21 and return to normal for 2021/22.

    That would surely leave a lot of blank Saturdays in second half of 2020/2021 if for instance there was no rugby up to November.


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    #840
    Cookiemunster
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    Digifriendly wrote: »
    That would surely leave a lot of blank Saturdays in second half of 2020/2021 if for instance there was no rugby up to November.

    Well if there's no rugby until November, then there isn't enough time have a normal 2020/21 season before the Lions tour. There's no perfect solution here.


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    #841
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,650 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    Unfortunately they can't plan for next season as they've no idea when or if it will start. As it is the 3 three Southern provinces know they can't return to training until at least August 10th, which means preseason starts a minimum 6 weeks late. If the hiatus was to last into winter the simplest option could be to finish this season (playing all remaining games) during 2020/21 and return to normal for 2021/22.

    Yeah fair shout and I think that's part of reason why PL hasn't been cancelled yet too. Hard to know what will happen to be honest.


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