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2019 French Open

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    #212
    Dirkziggler
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    That was a disgusting way to choke that game


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    #213
    MisterAnarchy
    Registered Users Posts: 14,549 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    That was a disgusting way to choke that game

    He threw that game and set away ,just when it looked like he was getting on top.
    His volleying is awful today,he plays a good drop shot ,Nadal does well to scoop it back and Roger continuously makes a mess of it.


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    #214
    Chivito550
    Registered Users Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Seemed like that horrendous first serve at 40-0 up killed all his momentum. Didn’t hit another first serve after that.


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    #215
    Royale with Cheese
    Registered Users Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Can Federer take 3 games in this set is about the only interesting thing left here.


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    #216
    Rob2D
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    Fed is too nice. If that were me at the net in those conditions the other guy would be getting the ball hit right through him!


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    #217
    Chivito550
    Registered Users Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Who do people think has the better chance of beating Nadal in the final? Djokovic or Thiem?

    Thiem has beaten Nadal 3 times on clay in last 3 years including this season but was pummeled twice at RG during that time. Djokovic on other hand lost to Nadal in Rome.


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    #218
    Royale with Cheese
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Who do people think has the better chance of beating Nadal in the final? Djokovic or Thiem?

    Thiem has beaten Nadal 3 times on clay in last 3 years including this season but was pummeled twice at RG during that time. Djokovic on other hand lost to Nadal in Rome.

    In a 5 set match? Djokovic.


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    #219
    Pighead
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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    He threw that game and set away ,just when it looked like he was getting on top.
    His volleying is awful today,he plays a good drop shot ,Nadal does well to scoop it back and Roger continuously makes a mess of it.
    Jesus, it wouldn't kill you to give Nadal a bit of credit! He's played some unreal tennis today.Bit of a stretch to say that Roger threw both sets away.


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    #220
    MisterAnarchy
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    Wilander is obsessed with serve and volley .
    Does he realistically think that will work on Clay against Nadal ?


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    #221
    MisterAnarchy
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    Pighead wrote: »
    Jesus, it wouldn't kill you to give Nadal a bit of credit! He's played some unreal tennis today.Bit of a stretch to say that Roger threw both sets away.

    Federer was 4-4 and 40-0 up on serve and he lost the game mostly due to unforced errors ,he threw that game away and in doing so the set was gone.
    I see nothing wrong with my statement .
    I never mentioned anything about throwing away the first set.


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    #222
    Rikand
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    How does Rafa just keep getting the ball back in the court. Some of those shots from roger are so far out wide, they'd be winners against anyone else


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    #223
    Pighead
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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    Federer was 4-4 and 40-0 up on serve and he lost the game mostly due to unforced errors ,he threw that game away and in doing so the set was gone.
    I see nothing wrong with my statement .
    I never mentioned anything about throwing away the first set.
    My point re the first set is that you didn't give Rafa any credit there either! You said you weren't sure how Rafa won the first set. Answer to that question is he played some pretty good tennis and forced Roger into making mistakes! I'm guessing you're not a big Rafa fan!


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    #224
    josip
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    Ooh, EagererBeaverer looking good


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    #225
    Pighead
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    Dominant from Rafa. He looks in great nick. Will be very interesting to see if he can maintain this level through the grass and hard court swings.

    Next match should be a cracker. Novak narrowly beat Thiem in Madrid but he had lost his previous two matches on clay against him. Tough to call. I'm edging towards Thiem.


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    #226
    Dirkziggler
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    Pighead wrote: »
    Dominant from Rafa. He looks in great nick. Will be very interesting to see if he can maintain this level through the grass and hard court swings.

    Next match should be a cracker. Novak narrowly beat Thiem in Madrid but he had lost his previous two matches on clay against him. Tough to call. I'm edging towards Thiem.

    I don't think it was dominant at all. Both under ,70% first serve winners.


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    #227
    lostcat
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    Pighead wrote: »
    Dominant from Rafa. He looks in great nick. Will be very interesting to see if he can maintain this level through the grass and hard court swings.

    Next match should be a cracker. Novak narrowly beat Thiem in Madrid but he had lost his previous two matches on clay against him. Tough to call. I'm edging towards Thiem.

    Djokovic doesnt like windy condtions, not sure how Thiem feels about them but it might give him a chance. Otherwise Djokovic should be too good over best of 5.


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    #228
    Pighead
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    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    I don't think it was dominant at all. Both under ,70% first serve winners.
    He won it at a canter! Fed knew the game was up after the second set. Most of the key moments were won by Rafa. Thought he served very well today when he needed to.


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    #229
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    What really hahah. You bets lost

    Oh hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii


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    #230
    Dirkziggler
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    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    Oh hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

    Well done on your bet mate. But fed threw the second set away


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    #231
    jr86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    Oh hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

    Haha thought of you when I saw the score - well played :) was fairly sure Nadal would thump him myself!


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    #232
    velo.2010
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    Managed to watch the second set on ITV. Nadal will face either of his toughest challengers on clay on Sunday. I'd like to see him win a twelfth title but the final may see a change in clay court dominance.


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    #233
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    Well done on your bet mate. But fed threw the second set away

    Cool cool, I'll file "Fed threw the second set away" in my "things I don't give two ****es about" box.


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    #234
    Dirkziggler
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    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    Cool cool, I'll file "Fed threw the second set away" in my "things I didn't give two ****es about box".

    You can file it away in whatever you like.


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    #235
    MisterAnarchy
    Registered Users Posts: 14,549 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    Well done on your bet mate. But fed threw the second set away

    Its disappointing that Federer almost threw in the towel in the 3rd set .
    Is it mental ,you'd expect more fight out of arguably the GOAT ,guys like Jimmy Connors ,Djokovic would fight to the end.


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    #236
    Chivito550
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    Ruiz Jr wrote: »
    He beat Nadal the previous 5 times in a row, I don't think it's mental anymore, he's simply playing a formidable clay court player that. The windy conditions also helped Nadal in this match up.

    Which would have been 6 in a row had Nadal not pulled out of IW.

    It’s hardly a surprise that Rafa beats him on clay.


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    #237
    MisterAnarchy
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Which would have been 6 in a row had Nadal not pulled out of IW.

    It’s hardly a surprise that Rafa beats him on clay.

    Yes thats true ,it was always going to be a huge ask for Federer to win on clay.
    I thought he played fairly well in the first two sets ,backhand was not letting him down ,volleying was poor today though.


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    #238
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Ruiz Jr wrote: »
    Who was the person that thought Tsistipas was the new "Guard" because he won a match a few matches at the Australian open?

    Tsitsipas is clearly part of the new guard. He's the youngest player in the top 10 by over a year, has been consistently on the rise. He made the last 16 here, in line with his ranking and only losing to a three time GS champion. What more do you want from him before he can be part of the new guard?


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    #239
    Dirkziggler
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    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    Tsitsipas is clearly part of the new guard. He's the youngest player in the top 10 by over a year, has been consistently on the rise. He made the last 16 here, in line with his ranking and only losing to a three time GS champion. What more do you want from him before he can be part of the new guard?

    I don’t class the “new guard” as much. Sasha, Tsitsi and Dom haven’t stepped up yet I’m my opinion.


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    #240
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Ruiz Jr wrote: »
    How exactly will it be "very interesting" to see if he maintains his level on grass and hard court.

    We already know he won't from the past 7 years and from the hard court earlier this year.

    Nadal peaked in 2008-2013, he's 6 years past had best. It's unlikely he gets past the first week at Wimbledon and it,'s unlikely he wins any hard court tournaments this year. This is the same old boring story we've seen for the last 7 years. It's not interesting at all.

    You know he got to the Wimbledon semifinal last year, losing 9-7 to Djokovic in one of their best matches, yes?


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    #241
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Dirkziggler wrote: »
    I don’t class the “new guard” as much. Sasha, Tsitsi and Dom haven’t stepped up yet I’m my opinion.

    Surely new is simply a matter of time and generations rather than success though. Will they be as good or successful as the big three? No. Or as good as Murray or Stan? Perhaps. They're definitely way more talented then Raonic, Cilic, Kyrgios etc.


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