Tesla Talk

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121274013#Comment_121274013

I found I adjusted to the over taking very quickly....and I've never felt safer overtaking given the instant torque & power delivery.

Traction control also I find is spot on in the M3, especially in weather like this on Irish country roads. All makes the RWD experience really enjoyable for me.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121275397#Comment_121275397

Fair enough. Apologies.

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121275397#Comment_121275397

You are telling lies. I'm not making up any rules. I said I believe it is safest to overtake as quickly as possible. So that's what I practise. If I get stopped by a Garda for speeding in one of these overtakes, I will accept the fine and penalty points for breaking the rules.

And FWIW I have never had any penalty points

MojoMaker

@Anaki r2d2 struggling to see what you're getting from this?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121275029#Comment_121275029

Lol. Read your own posts before calling random strangers a lier.

anyways I will leave it there. Did not intend to derail from the intent of this thread.

Neworder79

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121269108#Comment_121269108

Noticed this on motorway. I think EV owners tend to be more aware that higher speeds hit efficiency (range anxiety) than ICE drivers.

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121278096#Comment_121278096

Plus I think there's a higher concentration of EVs in urbia and suburbia. There simply aren't as many EVs on intercity and rural routes.

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121278096#Comment_121278096

Altering your driving style for efficiency does not equate to range anxiety. It just gets you further range (and potentially some minor savings).

FWIW - I rolled into home after 260km on 1% yday.....as predicted by the Energy Monitor, even with lashing rain on the motorway.

I could NEVER do that in an ICE.

sk8board

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121279510#Comment_121279510

That’s interesting to see - so you think 260km on a crappy day motorway speed is about the limit for a rwd m3? Trying to find real world Irish experience

traco

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121281514#Comment_121281514

This is RWD Model Y info but may help.

Last friday in the lashing rain we had four adults and full luggage. Google maps is saying distance was 293kms door to door and we would have arrived with 11% charge remaining. That was based on the display when we pulled into Athenry for a charge and coffee as I wasn't sure about the destination chargers so wanted 50%+ just in case. Anyway the maths more or less confirmed that the indicated 11% would have been spot on had we kept going non stop. M50 was very heavy but the rest of the journey in the wind and rain was at 120kph, Temp was 12C so heating, wipers and lights on.

Based on that the RWD Model Y on 19" Gemini wheels should do 325/330kms in those conditions, a more efficient M3 should so at least that. I think 300kms @120kph is realistic in a RWD Model 3.

The return Journey on sunday with rear heated seats on but no wipers or lights was more or less the same. Rear passenegers were a little delicate so wanted some comforts.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121281550#Comment_121281550

330-360km was the figure I posted before the RWD even hit our shores last year if someone was nerd enough to understand how to search my posts!

The M3 will be about 10-15% more efficient than that.

Then obviously there’s the different RWD variants so make sure the difference is noted between the original 50 kWh, 55 kWh and 60 kWh versions.

Conar

I was heading up to Leixlip from Ennis area last week in the M3P and had awful range. We had 3 adults and 80kgs of luggage. It was a windy rainy night to be fair but I went from 91% battery to 11% battery in the 210km drive as far as the Enfield superchargers.

I would have made it to Leixlip with approx 20% range remaining initially but it dropped steadily as I drove to 3% so I wasn't taking any chances.

Only 4500kms on the clock.

Will be driving back tomorrow so interested to see how I get on but earlier drives would have been around 68% usage for the same journey with just me in the car.

slave1

Resistance is a huge impact on cars with EV's pointing it out a lot more than ICE, water on the road is the biggest killer on range, throw headwind and perfect storm of worst weather conditions

traco

Last Friday was pretty brutal with rain and standing water. The Model Y has the 19" Gemini wheels which also help a lot I imagine.

unkel

If you drive at 120km/h GPS speed and have a headwind of 40-50km/h, that would near double your consumption. Fact that the wind isn't constant but can be gusty, makes it worse. Rain and very wet roads make it worse again and the cold of winter makes it worse again. Even before you switch on the heater.

Welcome to EVs 😂

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121281616#Comment_121281616

20” wheels too.

Theres a big difference for us P owners. Even old S’s with 21” wheels. It’s noticeable other longer trips!

Conar

Yeah, the weather was awful to be fair.

I expected worse but not quite so bad. Also, it was 120kph by the GPS so I wasn't easing off on the speed as I wanted to know what to expect for how I'd normally drive.

I've another ev so I'm used to the range differences but it's a 28kw Ioniq so I've always had to stop in Athlone whenever I brought it.

Still very happy with the car but just wanted to point out the differences so people aren't caught off guard.

John arse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121281692#Comment_121281692

Don't think the economy in an ICE in those conditions would be great either?

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121281858#Comment_121281858

It wouldn’t but it’s more noticeable in an EV watching your % dropping.

But I was out in the 530e last week. Petrol mode and I was watching the GOM range dropping too, 328km, 327km etc

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121281858#Comment_121281858

No, but it's relatively worse in an EV. Simply because there is far less energy on board and the laws of physics apply. To give you an idea - many people don't realise this - an ICE car with a 50l tank has about 500kWh of energy on board. A typical EV has 90% less!

Of course ICE are extremely inefficient and EVs are extremely frugal at low speeds in good circumstances. But if you start adding up lots of circumstances where the EV is relatively less frugal, the range falls off a cliff.

sk8board

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121281858#Comment_121281858

Well it would be worse alright (because science) but for sure it wouldn’t be half. I do a regular 90km each way motorway journey, all year round - I’ve never actually noticed any difference, but I’m guessing the best and worst mpg I’ve seen (@ 125kmph) is maybe 48 to 60. Incl fully loaded car with family and our sh1t

for EVs it makes little difference bar the electricity cost/km is obviously almost double, and if you need a supercharger then the cost/km probably equals that of an ICE car - ie worst case scenario it shouldn’t be any more expensive to do the same journey EV vs ICE

Redfox25

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121281514#Comment_121281514

Dublin to Galway return trip, motorway speeds, heat on and heated seats on. Not driving as efficiently as I could. M3 rwd.

in summer is a 5 min top up.

Winter is a 8 to 10 min charge.

Top ups in Athenry at SC, landing home with 10% left for just in case.

sk8board

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121282212#Comment_121282212

What does that equate to for full to empty range though?

Dublin to Galway return is a great example of a motorway journey.

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Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121283325#Comment_121283325

FFS 😳

John arse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121283325#Comment_121283325

You could threaten the missus with it if she damaged the car?🤦

DrPsychia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121281616#Comment_121281616

Would you consider changing to smaller wheels? It would cost a pretty penny to import T-Sportline 18" alloys from the US but they would fit over the M3P brakes. You'd then be able to fit cheaper tyres and have more selection, better acceleration, improved comfort, reduced road noise, approx 15% more range than keeping the uberturbines, less likely to damage rims or blow the sidewall if you hit a pothole. If you manage to sell the uberturbines it would offset the cost.

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121281514#Comment_121281514

No, but M3 is NCA 50kWh battery, so I generally only ever charge to 90% as half of my charging would be at DC chargers. But TBH I've never bothered trying to work out my maximums (100,000+km of experience in M3).

I'm really only ever concerned with my journeys and what stops I will need. I have a rough idea of how many stops I'll need including for return journeys. Then I spend 5 minutes on the route planner in the car after which Im sorted.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121283957#Comment_121283957

Buy them from green drive in France. No import fees etc then.

DrPsychia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121284268#Comment_121284268

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121281846#Comment_121281846

Wow, great prices for the 18" rims for the M3P. If I had a M3P I'd definitely buy those and sell the uberturbines asap.