Ghost Recon Breakpoint (wildlands 2)

dreamers75

Beta back this weekend with a uh ummm trailer of sorts.

Its definitley a trailer, I think :eek:

EoinMcLovin

Open beta starts tomorrow. File is around 36gb on PS4

DeadlyByDesign

beta time delayed, ball is in UBIs court now to tell us when it starts

dreamers75

https://twitter.com/GhostRecon/status/1177214391734996992

Live now apparently.

dreamers75

Yeah im gonna buy this, the "rpg" stuff is not even a thing, its a number to keep you playing after the story ends with harder and harder enemies(drones) and a headshot is still a head shot. And missions, they need to mix up the faction missions which I guess they are doing by public vote (F9 to like)

From what I can see the end game is not going to be hardcore no hud type stuff but soldier placement and damage output, kinda on the fence about that but it is a robot tank you are killing so.......

CQB still sucks, they need an FOV or of button switch for FPS when you have to go CQB. in fairness thats the 3rd person problem every game has but it would be a nice option for 1st person.

Dcully

Played a bit of this lastnight and i doubt ill be buying, it just feels meh to play.

I tend to agree with this vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izrj2ckc4yU

DarC_Kn1ght

I hope the demo (beta) build is a atleast a few months old. Game releases in 6 days and i ran into so many bugs.

dreamers75

Skyhunter wrote: »

Was really looking forward to this game as I enjoyed Wildlands. Not so much now since the MTX system has been exposed. P2W.

You can get the HTI .50cal almost immediateley in the full game, not sure what else you need in this game.

Shiminay

Dcully

Beta was **** seems full game is a joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY8FIBYo3PI

dreamers75

Bastards moved the HTI behind a level 150 Drone, so the TAC 50 is easy to get within minutes of starting.

Not sure why anyone would need to buy perk points or skell credits.

ZiabR

Avoiding this like the plague.

Grumpypants

Skyhunter wrote: »

Was really looking forward to this game as I enjoyed Wildlands. Not so much now since the MTX system has been exposed. P2W.

Dcully wrote: »

Beta was **** seems full game is a joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY8FIBYo3PI

Two videos from people who haven't played the game. One is a clickbait Youtuber that just pukes out garbage. And the other guy while he seems to make considered content his video is still clickbait as the feedback is based on the beta not the game.

Not saying it is going to be good or bad, but don't go on the opinion of people who make money from these clickbait videos.

Dcully

Joker has played the game.
Trust me im the first to not go by a content creators opinion, im a firm believer in experiencing games for myself.
I played the beta for 6 hours and it sucked, and i loved wildlands as did the joker guy.
Hes never struck me as having clickbait videos then again its probably subjective.

Grumpypants

Spent 6 hours on it last night. It's great fun.

Was just exploring, if you turn off the navigation you have to follow directions, study the map, find intel, talk to people to figure out what to do.

One example is you meet a guy he says there is a weird noise coming from the x mountains near the Y water fall that is bringing drones around.

You have to find that rough location on the map. Go there, look around find a cave with a weird noise. Head in kill some bad guys, find some intel that explains why the drones are drawn to the noise. Then later you find more intel that tracks the pathing the drones are on. That lets you find the antenna and blow it up.

So much better than drive towards a marker and shoot things.

Weapons and gear are found in crates and on dead bodies and in certain bases around the map. Worse weapons can be broken down and used to increase stats.

There is a lot to earn and unlock. And then there is a great skill system.

Dcully

Ill grab uplay+ to try it out , few friends started playing too.
Some of the transactions are hilarious, buy a way to bypass the whole point of the progression system, some people would buy anything .

Revoker88

Every single game ever..

Survival mechanics = a water meter

This looks like evrything i hate about most Ubi games. And some of the most brzen MTs ever to boot.

Grumpypants

I haven't seen any mtx yet. But I'm playing single player. Will play co-op when others get it.

Prob won't go near the multiplayer but since nothing you buy makes a difference in pvp i really dont care if people buy fancy clothes.

dreamers75

Only gripe now after about 20 hours is that stealth is an option for a little bit but you are going to have a very noisy fire fight.

Any of the larger factories you are not going to clear it with stealth alone. The LMG and shotguns are options now because of the above.

A decent squad could stealth somewhere but you have to very fast and accurate and work together.

In Single play you stealth your way to a position you can defend from, you can sneak in get what you want and run but if you want to clear the area, be prepared to take the silencer off:)

The high horse brigade

Loved Wildlands, can't grow to this at all, it feels a little pointless

Dcully

Played some this morning, need to give it a bit more time but so far its not doing it for me.
Ai really are terrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR-fPltnL6o

Sexual Chocolate

I loved wildlands and was looking forward to this coming out after seeing the trailer but the majority of reviews are ripping into it big time. Will take a pass on it for the moment but hopeful it's improves.

Grumpypants

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

I loved wildlands and was looking forward to this coming out after seeing the trailer but the majority of reviews are ripping into it big time. Will take a pass on it for the moment but hopeful it's improves.

Most reviewers also hated Wildlands. Made all the same complaints about it being boring, buggy AI, grindy. I didn't care as I had a blast with my mates and loved the open world and freedom to explore.

This is the exact same.

The thing is reviewers don't play these types of games like players do. Look at Days Gone, that got panned. And that is one of the best games this year.

goon_magee

Grumpypants wrote: »

Most reviewers also hated Wildlands. Made all the same complaints about it being boring, buggy AI, grindy. I didn't care as I had a blast with my mates and loved the open world and freedom to explore.

This is the exact same.

The thing is reviewers don't play these types of games like players do. Look at Days Gone, that got panned. And that is one of the best games this year.

That seems to be your fallback position whenever a game gets panned that you like, you seem to put it on the reviewers playing a game a different way to the players. Not saying you're wrong, I just think we need to be open to the fact that Ubi look to have really ****ed this one.

Plenty of people I know who enjoyed the first one have warned me away from this. Tacked on systems that add nothing to the game, and a technical mess seem to be the biggest complaints I'm seeing from both reviewers and the general player base alike. In fact user reviews on metacritic are down around 2.5 percent on metacritic last I checked, way below the 5.7 critic average it's got. Using your Days Gone comparison, it's sitting at around an average of 8 for user reviews, with critics around a 7, so I don't think it's really comparable; and by nearly all accounts it looks like Ubi really ballsed this up.

Grumpypants

goon_magee wrote: »

That seems to be your fallback position whenever a game gets panned that you like, you seem to put it on the reviewers playing a game a different way to the players. Not saying you're wrong, I just think we need to be open to the fact that Ubi look to have really ****ed this one.

Plenty of people I know who enjoyed the first one have warned me away from this. Tacked on systems that add nothing to the game, and a technical mess seem to be the biggest complaints I'm seeing from both reviewers and the general player base alike. In fact user reviews on metacritic are down around 2.5 percent on metacritic last I checked, way below the 5.7 critic average it's got. Using your Days Gone comparison, it's sitting at around an average of 8 for user reviews, with critics around a 7, so I don't think it's really comparable; and by nearly all accounts it looks like Ubi really ballsed this up.

Days gone at launch was getting 4s/5s. I said then that that score will come up as people really play it. And it did. The user score was 8 and the reviews came up to 7.

Here is the Destructiod review of Wildlands "Wildlands is a bad fu.king game -- it completely fails at everything it aspires to be. It's a bad co-op game, it's a bad shooter, it's a bad open-world game, and the writing is terrible. At best, the game is boring. At worst, it's frustrating. I suppose the visuals are worthy of some praise, but you can just look at screenshots for free. I cannot recommend Ghost Recon Wildlands to anyone, unless you're directly related to someone on the development team. If that is the case, by all means, support your family! Everyone else: stay away."


Does that really sound like the Wildlands you played?

Dcully

So i played some more yesterday,about 5 hours in total and i was bored stupid.
Ive cancelled my uplay+ already.

goon_magee

Grumpypants wrote: »

Days gone at launch was getting 4s/5s. I said then that that score will come up as people really play it. And it did. The user score was 8 and the reviews came up to 7.

Here is the Destructiod review of Wildlands "Wildlands is a bad fu.king game -- it completely fails at everything it aspires to be. It's a bad co-op game, it's a bad shooter, it's a bad open-world game, and the writing is terrible. At best, the game is boring. At worst, it's frustrating. I suppose the visuals are worthy of some praise, but you can just look at screenshots for free. I cannot recommend Ghost Recon Wildlands to anyone, unless you're directly related to someone on the development team. If that is the case, by all means, support your family! Everyone else: stay away."


Does that really sound like the Wildlands you played?

The Destructoid review of Wildlands is irrelevant to the point I'm making. You were originally implying that the low scores are due to the difference in play styles between critics and the average gamer, whereas the average gamer, even those who enjoyed Wildlands are largely negative towards this.

If the user reviews and general player base were positive towards breakpoint, then your point would hold more weight. And to bring it back to Days Gone, user reviews were pretty much positive from the get go. We are a week out from Breakpoint's early access launch and user scores are showing no signs of increasing.

goon_magee

Dcully wrote: »

So i played some more yesterday,about 5 hours in total and i was bored stupid.
Ive cancelled my uplay+ already.

Were you a fan of Wildlands? I've seen a lot of people who were fans of Wildlands drop off this already which I wasn't expecting.

Dcully

Yeah i enjoyed wildlands quite a bit.

dreamers75

Tried a wolves (200+) camp last night with 3 of us going loud from the start with LMGs, its a different game that way.

Did it but took some casualties

Reckon we get a few more days out of it and thats that.