Religion and Homophobic Hatred

JupiterKid

Why do homophobes and bigots in general use religion to excuse their disgusting and callous behavior? It’s pathetic and as far removed from my understanding of the term “Christian” as possible.

A fundamentalist Evangelical Christian woman in Ohio who pledged $7,500 towards the treatment of a gravely Ill toddler with advanced cancer retracted her donation when she learned that the child’s parents were a lesbian couple.

Story here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7001183/Homophobic-donor-withdraws-7-600-donation-cancer-stricken-toddler-realizing-parents-lesbians.html

Your Face

People hide behind all sorts of ideologies to malign those they don't want to understand.

James Brown

It's simple, 'God sez'. Unfortunately the minutes taken from any alleged God meeting can be interpreted a number of ways. Folk tend to read them in a way that suits their agenda or subscribe to a religion that fits their personality. Madness. No religious person should ever be let anywhere near a position of authority IMO.

Atoms for Peace

Didn't Jesus hang out with outcasts, stick it to the man and forgive sinners?

Ipso

Isn’t eating shell fish on par with the gay in the abomination scale?

hcf500

Its odd but I notice that catholics use religion to defend many of their incorrect beliefs, even non practicing catholics. Christians is probably a better fit. Muslims on the other hand are far more devout but don't let it affect the daily lives as much.

James Brown

hcf500 wrote: »

Its odd but I notice that catholics use religion to defend many of their incorrect beliefs, even non practicing catholics. Christians is probably a better fit. Muslims on the other hand are far more devout but don't let it affect the daily lives as much.

How can a belief be incorrect? All religions are built on it.

theguzman

Is Islam they just throw you off a roof or hang you, Bigoted Christians may have some hatred but it is nothing compared to the vitriol Islam spews towards Homosexuals. Yet the LGBT lobby defend Islam when they are criticized, wheras Muslims would enforce Sharia Law and persecute Gay people.

James Brown

theguzman wrote: »

Is Islam they just throw you off a roof or hang you, Bigoted Christians may have some hatred but it is nothing compared to the vitriol Islam spews towards Homosexuals. Yet the LGBT lobby defend Islam when they are criticized, wheras Muslims would enforce Sharia Law and persecute Gay people.

Tell us more about these bigots? :rolleyes:

Roger Hassenforder

Ipso wrote: »

Isn’t eating shell fish on par with the gay in the abomination scale?

It depends if the fish chew the cud, but divide not the hoof. Or chew not the cud, but divide the hoof.

Ipso

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

It depends if the fish chew the cud, but divide not the hoof. Or chew not the cud, but divide the hoof.

What if the cud begat the hoof?

dermo888

hcf500 wrote: »

Muslims on the other hand are far more devout but don't let it affect the daily lives as much.

Maybe you know very secular Muslims, probably of Lebanese/Turkish/Bosnian or from the former Soviet States, because they tend to have a very 'laissez faire' attitude towards life, but the ones from the Middle East and Gulf States, and ASEAN - its an all inclusive thing imposing across all areas of life and conduct.

Atoms for Peace

hcf500 wrote: »

Its odd but I notice that catholics use religion to defend many of their incorrect beliefs, even non practicing catholics. Christians is probably a better fit. Muslims on the other hand are far more devout but don't let it affect the daily lives as much.

I think you've got it mixed up there.

James Brown

dermo888 wrote: »

Maybe you know very secular Muslims, probably of Lebanese/Turkish/Bosnian or from the former Soviet States, because they tend to have a very 'laissez faire' attitude towards life, but the ones from the Middle East and Gulf States, and ASEAN - its an all inclusive thing imposing across all areas of life and conduct.

Any Arab lad I've met over the years was a hoor for gambling and drinking.

Roger Hassenforder

Ipso wrote: »

What if the cud begat the hoof?

Theyre to be stoned i think

Edgware

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Any Arab lad I've met over the years was a hoor for gambling and drinking.

Ah grand lads the Arabs

sabat

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Any Arab lad I've met over the years was a hoor for gambling and drinking.

And a penchant for buggery.

4068ac1elhodqr

JupiterKid wrote: »

Why do homophobes and bigots in general use religion to excuse their disgusting and callous behavior? It’s pathetic and as far removed from my understanding of the term “Christian” as possible.

Maybe too, ask Saudi Arabia on their exact views?
Instead of some random individual in Ohio.

They (SA) also currently sit upon United Nations 'Human Rights' Council.
Assume the recent 'off with his head (x37) public showcase' was overlooked?

Of course it didn't feature much on Skynews (may be sponsor€d by Q-airways).

dermo888

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Any Arab lad I've met over the years was a hoor for gambling and drinking.

Thats once they get out from under the supervisory restrictions of the society they're living in.

TCM

hcf500 wrote:

Its odd but I notice that catholics use religion to defend many of their incorrect beliefs, even non practicing catholics. Christians is probably a better fit. Muslims on the other hand are far more devout but don't let it affect the daily lives as much.

Holy mac, that's some mouthful of baloney.

hcf500

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Any Arab lad I've met over the years was a hoor for gambling and drinking.

Generalise a whole race! Well done!

klaaaz

Religion is often used to bash transgender people too. If religion wasn't around everyone no matter how different they are would have a better quality of life.

hcf500

TCM wrote: »

Holy mac, that's some mouthful of baloney.

That's a great argument!

Galwayguy35

Yep bash the christians for hating the gays but be very careful not to mention Islam where in certain countries they would be arrested, whipped or killed.

Odhinn

klaaaz wrote: »

Religion is often used to bash transgender people too. If religion wasn't around everyone no matter how different they are would have a better quality of life.

Alas no, ye'll always have bigots.

Brendan Delaney

theguzman wrote: »

Is Islam they just throw you off a roof or hang you, Bigoted Christians may have some hatred but it is nothing compared to the vitriol Islam spews towards Homosexuals. Yet the LGBT lobby defend Islam when they are criticized, wheras Muslims would enforce Sharia Law and persecute Gay people.

True the left will bend over for Islam.

Welcome to clown world.

James Brown

hcf500 wrote: »

Generalise a whole race! Well done!

I was countering the generalising they are all devout and prone to sharia law. Just the few I've met. Never said I met them all. Also God told me so....

James Brown

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yep bash the christians for hating the gays but be very careful not to mention Islam where in certain countries they would be arrested, whipped or killed.

It's context. A comedian will make fun of himself or a majority, because it's not seen as mean spirited. Picking on a minority often a repressed minority, not so much.

Brendan Delaney wrote: »

True the left will bend over for Islam.

Welcome to clown world.

Which left would this be Fine Gael or the Republican party? The left run f*** all.
Keep voting in the same shams and blaming parties on 5% or below for ruining things

mikemac2

The donor gave to St Jude Children’s Research hospital instead of this specific family in Ohio. It’ll do good there also.

The state of Ohio who can find hundreds of millions for sports venues for football franchises couldn’t or wouldn’t pay $7,600

Brendan Delaney

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yep bash the christians for hating the gays but be very careful not to mention Islam where in certain countries they would be arrested, whipped or killed.

Sure wasn't the Prophet Muhammad homosexual?

Galwayguy35

Brendan Delaney wrote: »

Sure wasn't the Prophet Muhammad homosexual?

He was a paedophile anyway.

hcf500

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

He was a paedophile anyway.

That's not true

Brendan Delaney

hcf500 wrote: »

That's not true

Wasn't his wife seven years old?

Yer Da sells Avon

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Which left would this be Fine Gael or the Republican party? The left run f*** all.

Some people are so far to the right that they view everything, including the centre-right, as 'the left'.

Galwayguy35

hcf500 wrote: »

That's not true

Actually it is.

jmreire

dermo888 wrote: »

Maybe you know very secular Muslims, probably of Lebanese/Turkish/Bosnian or from the former Soviet States, because they tend to have a very 'laissez faire' attitude towards life, but the ones from the Middle East and Gulf States, and ASEAN - its an all inclusive thing imposing across all areas of life and conduct.

I've drank many a pint ( and many local brew's too ) with Muslims from the state's you mention..... Lebanese/Turkish/Bosnian/ Chechnya or from the former Soviet States. No problem what so ever, and even from states a bit nearer to and in the Middle East, but these ones would be drinking behind closed door's....But all of them, no matter where they came from, loved any kind of card game, or horse / car racing etc. And I'm pretty sure that they were not averse to betting a few bob either !!!

hcf500

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Actually it is.

Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad at the age of 6 or 7. They did not wed until her teens

trashcan

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Theyre to be stoned i think

No one is to stone anyone until I blow this whistle, even, and I want to make this absolutely clear, even if they do say Jehovah.

jmreire

JupiterKid wrote: »

Why do homophobes and bigots in general use religion to excuse their disgusting and callous behavior? It’s pathetic and as far removed from my understanding of the term “Christian” as possible.

A fundamentalist Evangelical Christian woman in Ohio who pledged $7,500 towards the treatment of a gravely Ill toddler with advanced cancer retracted her donation when she learned that the child’s parents were a lesbian couple.

Story here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7001183/Homophobic-donor-withdraws-7-600-donation-cancer-stricken-toddler-realizing-parents-lesbians.html

Is that the same place where you can find the Westboro Baptist Church?? What ever they call themselves, they are about as far away from Christianity as it'd possible to get....what is the sexual preference of the parents got to do with an innocent child??? They have it wrong anyway.

jmreire

hcf500 wrote: »

Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad at the age of 6 or 7. They did not wed until her teens

Mohammad married Aisha when she was 6 years of age, and had sex with her when she was 9 years old. Way before her teens. She was the daughter of his best friend, Baghdadi, ( Which is why the leader of isis took that name for the caliphate )

Brendan Delaney

hcf500 wrote: »

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Actually it is.

Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad at the age of 6 or 7. They did not wed until her teens

He liked them young.

Mad_maxx

hcf500 wrote: »

Its odd but I notice that catholics use religion to defend many of their incorrect beliefs, even non practicing catholics. Christians is probably a better fit. Muslims on the other hand are far more devout but don't let it affect the daily lives as much.

Islam informs every aspect of a person's life

Mad_maxx

theguzman wrote: »

Is Islam they just throw you off a roof or hang you, Bigoted Christians may have some hatred but it is nothing compared to the vitriol Islam spews towards Homosexuals. Yet the LGBT lobby defend Islam when they are criticized, wheras Muslims would enforce Sharia Law and persecute Gay people.

LGBT movement ( not ordinary gay people) are part of the political - cultural left, Islam is a sacred cow of the cultural left

James Brown

Mad_maxx wrote: »

LGBT movement ( not ordinary gay people) are part of the political - cultural left, Islam is a sacred cow of the cultural left

It must be scary living in your world where even those looking that minorities get fair treatment are the enemy.

Pissartist

JupiterKid wrote: »

Why do homophobes and bigots in general use religion to excuse their disgusting and callous behavior? It’s pathetic and as far removed from my understanding of the term “Christian” as possible.

A fundamentalist Evangelical Christian woman in Ohio who pledged $7,500 towards the treatment of a gravely Ill toddler with advanced cancer retracted her donation when she learned that the child’s parents were a lesbian couple.

Story here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7001183/Homophobic-donor-withdraws-7-600-donation-cancer-stricken-toddler-realizing-parents-lesbians.html

So it's ok for you to judge their beliefs ?

Galwayguy35

Matt Barrett wrote: »

It must be scary living in your world where even those looking that minorities get fair treatment are the enemy.

Muslims aren't a minority, there's about 1.8 billion of them give or take.

One eyed Jack

JupiterKid wrote: »

Why do homophobes and bigots in general use religion to excuse their disgusting and callous behavior? It’s pathetic and as far removed from my understanding of the term “Christian” as possible.

Well that’s a ridiculous generalisation.

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Tell us more about these bigots? :rolleyes:

Matt Barrett wrote: »

No religious person should ever be let anywhere near a position of authority IMO.

Matt Barrett wrote: »

It's context. A comedian will make fun of himself or a majority, because it's not seen as mean spirited.

I see, so you think you’re a comedian and therefore your particular flavour of bigotry should be perfectly understood, you might even argue it’s perfectly reasonable.

Nah, still sounds like you’re trying to excuse your own bigotry, which is from my perspective fairly mean spirited anyway, but I wouldn’t throw you off a building for it.

Odhinn

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Muslims aren't a minority, there's about 1.8 billion of them give or take.

Unless they've a stout swilling rasher chewing sect, they're a minority here.

Pero_Bueno

hcf500 wrote: »

Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad at the age of 6 or 7. They did not wed until her teens

Ah sorry, so she was only 13 when he was ****ing her ....

Great so! not a peadophile then, thanks for clearing that up!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

DEFTLEFTHAND

You have to go a lot deeper than religion to find the reasons why homosexuals have always suffered discrimination.

I think it comes down to base human instinct. Our main function on earth, like every animal , is to reproduce and continue the line. Anything which deviates from that is viewed with suspicion or in some cases outright contempt.

Feisar

mikemac2 wrote: »

The donor gave to St Jude Children’s Research hospital instead of this specific family in Ohio. It’ll do good there also.

The state of Ohio who can find hundreds of millions for sports venues for football franchises couldn’t or wouldn’t pay $7,600

That's a shíte name for a hospital. St. Jude is the patron saint of lost causes! Someone was trolling big time!