Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

Scottmactom

Leinster Rugby Academy – Year Three 2020/21:

David Hawkshaw(Outhalf/Belvedere/Clontarf) - u22
Michael Milne(LH Prop/Roscrea/UCD) - u22 (8 caps)
Aaron O’Sullivan(Wing/Exile/Blackrock) - u22
Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf/Blackrock/UCD) - u23 (3 caps)
Michael Silvester(Fullback/Clongowes/DUFC) - u23

Leinster Rugby Academy – Year Two 2020/21:

Tom Clarkson(TH Prop/Blackrock/DUFC) - u21
Brian Deeny(Lock/Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - u21
Cormac Foley(Scrumhalf/St. Gerards/Lansdowne) - u22
Martin Moloney(Openside/Athy RFC/Clontarf) - u22
Charlie Ryan(Lock/Blackrock/UCD) - u22
Liam Turner(Centre/Blackrock/DUFC) - u22

Leinster Rugby Academy – Year One 2020/21:

John McKee(Hooker/Campbell/Old Belvedere) - u21
Joe McCarthy(Lock/Blackrock/DUFC) - u20
Alex Soroka(Backrow/Belvedere/Clontarf) - u20
Sean O’Brien(Backrow/Blackrock/UCD) - u21
Max O’Reilly(Fullback/St. Gerards/DUFC) - u21
Niall Comerford(Wing/Blackrock/UCD) - u21
Andrew Smith(Wing/St. Michaels/Clontarf) - u21

No players joining straight from school.

arsebiscuits1

Would like to see an up and coming loosehead force their way in. Need a succession plan there.

Hawkshaw needs a big year this year which is a horrible position to be in. No idea what kind of season we're going to have this year. Not sure where he fits in - would he offer more than Frawley?

Obviously a lot can change in a year but as it stands Milne looks like he will be the only graduate from those year 3 guys.

So far McKee backing himself at hooker is paying off. Didn't he move from Ulster coz they wanted him to prop?

Scottmactom

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Would like to see an up and coming loosehead force their way in. Need a succession plan there.

Hawkshaw needs a big year this year which is a horrible position to be in. No idea what kind of season we're going to have this year. Not sure where he fits in - would he offer more than Frawley?

Obviously a lot can change in a year but as it stands Milne looks like he will be the only graduate from those year 3 guys.

So far McKee backing himself at hooker is paying off. Didn't he move from Ulster coz they wanted him to prop?

yeah.

awec

That was one reason.

arsebiscuits1

awec wrote: »

That was one reason, I believe there were more and Ulster were right to get rid.

Ah good. Speculation. I'm sure McKee would thank you for that

AdamD

I'd back Leinsters judgement over Ulster's anyway

Scottmactom

LH Prop
Michael Milne(Roscrea/UCD) - u22, Y3

TH Prop
Tom Clarkson(Blackrock/DUFC) - u21, Y2

Hooker
John McKee(Campbell/Old Belvedere) - u21, Y1

Lock
Charlie Ryan(Blackrock/UCD) - u22, Y2
Brian Deeny(Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - u21, Y2
Joe McCarthy(Blackrock/DUFC) - u20, Y1

Backrow
Martin Moloney(Athy RFC/Clontarf) - u22, Y2
Sean O’Brien(Blackrock/UCD) - u21, Y1
Alex Soroka(Belvedere/Clontarf) - u20, Y1

Scrumhalf
Patrick Patterson(Blackrock/UCD) - u23, Y3
Cormac Foley(St. Gerards/Lansdowne) - u22, Y2

Outhalf
David Hawkshaw(Belvedere/Clontarf) - u22, Y3

Centre
Liam Turner(Blackrock/DUFC) - u22, Y2

Back Three
Michael Silvester(Clongowes/DUFC) - u23, Y3
Aaron O’Sullivan(Exile/Blackrock) - u22, Y3
Max O’Reilly(St. Gerards/DUFC) - u21, Y1
Niall Comerford(Blackrock/UCD) - u21, Y1
Andrew Smith(St. Michaels/Clontarf) - u21, Y1

OneLungDavy

Scottmactom wrote: »

LH Prop
Michael Milne(Roscrea/UCD) - u22, Y3

TH Prop
Tom Clarkson(Blackrock/DUFC) - u21, Y2

Hooker
John McKee(Campbell/Old Belvedere) - u21, Y1

Lock
Charlie Ryan(Blackrock/UCD) - u22, Y2
Brian Deeny(Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - u21, Y2
Joe McCarthy(Blackrock/DUFC) - u20, Y1

Backrow
Martin Moloney(Athy RFC/Clontarf) - u22, Y2
Sean O’Brien(Blackrock/UCD) - u21, Y1
Alex Soroka(Belvedere/Clontarf) - u20, Y1

Scrumhalf
Patrick Patterson(Blackrock/UCD) - u23, Y3
Cormac Foley(St. Gerards/Lansdowne) - u22, Y2

Outhalf
David Hawkshaw(Belvedere/Clontarf) - u22, Y3

Centre
Liam Turner(Blackrock/DUFC) - u22, Y2

Back Three
Michael Silvester(Clongowes/DUFC) - u23, Y3
Aaron O’Sullivan(Exile/Blackrock) - u22, Y3
Max O’Reilly(St. Gerards/DUFC) - u21, Y1
Niall Comerford(Blackrock/UCD) - u21, Y1
Andrew Smith(St. Michaels/Clontarf) - u21, Y1

Any notable omissions?

Scottmactom

OneLungDavy wrote: »

Any notable omissions?

Mark Hernan from the irish u20's.

Will Hickey, Chris Cosgrave, Jack Boyle and Lee Barron from schools rugby.

awec

awec wrote: »

That was one reason, .........................

There are a lot of ways this could be interpreted and we're talking about a 20 year old - is this really necessary?

awec

Fair enough, I will retract.

Clegg

Hernan looked good during the U20's Six Nations. He's unlucky to not get an academy place. Admittedly, Soroka and SOB 5.0 were even more impressive during that tournament.

Scottmactom

Clegg wrote: »

Hernan looked good during the U20's Six Nations. He's unlucky to not get an academy place. Admittedly, Soroka and SOB 5.0 were even more impressive during that tournament.

Has a lot of work to do putting on size, another year in the sub academy and see how his body carries the extra weight, given his historic shoulder issues.

FrannoFan

Scottmactom wrote: »

Mark Hernan from the irish u20's.

Will Hickey, Chris Cosgrave, Jack Boyle and Lee Barron from schools rugby.

Thought Boyle might go straight into academy. Looks a real player but young for front row

Scottmactom

FrannoFan wrote: »

Thought Boyle might go straight into academy. Looks a real player but young for front row

Doesn't turn 19 until after next years 6 nations. So very young for a prop, a season of sub academy S&C will do him good.

typhoony

the other lad that impressed off the bench in the u20 6 nations was McCarthy, I think they said he had only just turned 19 but he looked a raw talent

Clegg

Scottmactom wrote: »

Has a lot of work to do putting on size, another year in the sub academy and see how his body carries the extra weight, given his historic shoulder issues.

Yeah I read that article in The Times about him. 16 desperate shoulder dislocations in one year. That's horrific tbh.

awec

awec wrote: »

Fair enough, I will retract.

Holy sh1t - I just modded awec

FellasFellas

Scottmactom wrote: »

LH Prop
Michael Milne(Roscrea/UCD) - u22, Y3

TH Prop
Tom Clarkson(Blackrock/DUFC) - u21, Y2

Hooker
John McKee(Campbell/Old Belvedere) - u21, Y1

Lock
Charlie Ryan(Blackrock/UCD) - u22, Y2
Brian Deeny(Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - u21, Y2
Joe McCarthy(Blackrock/DUFC) - u20, Y1

Backrow
Martin Moloney(Athy RFC/Clontarf) - u22, Y2
Sean O’Brien(Blackrock/UCD) - u21, Y1
Alex Soroka(Belvedere/Clontarf) - u20, Y1

Scrumhalf
Patrick Patterson(Blackrock/UCD) - u23, Y3
Cormac Foley(St. Gerards/Lansdowne) - u22, Y2

Outhalf
David Hawkshaw(Belvedere/Clontarf) - u22, Y3

Centre
Liam Turner(Blackrock/DUFC) - u22, Y2

Back Three
Michael Silvester(Clongowes/DUFC) - u23, Y3
Aaron O’Sullivan(Exile/Blackrock) - u22, Y3
Max O’Reilly(St. Gerards/DUFC) - u21, Y1
Niall Comerford(Blackrock/UCD) - u21, Y1
Andrew Smith(St. Michaels/Clontarf) - u21, Y1

Interesting that they went for McKee over Sheehan, I wouldnt be surprised to see Sheehan look elsewhere for 21/22 season if they've kept him in the sub academy.

Back 3 I would be worried about, never rated O'Reilly growing up, Comerford a serious athlete, and Smith is a bit of a freak so hopefully those two can kick on.
O'Sullivan, Silvester have done nothing to suggest they should be kept on.

Scottmactom

FellasFellas wrote: »

Interesting that they went for McKee over Sheehan, I wouldnt be surprised to see Sheehan look elsewhere for 21/22 season if they've kept him in the sub academy.

Back 3 I would be worried about, never rated O'Reilly growing up, Comerford a serious athlete, and Smith is a bit of a freak so hopefully those two can kick on.
O'Sullivan, Silvester have done nothing to suggest they should be kept on.

Not worried about back three, with Osborne, Cosgrave and O'Connor at u20 level.
Only need Smith and one other to reach potential.

I'd rate Sheehan and Barron over McKee, who is very lucky to get a spot IMO.

Agree on O'Reilly being lucky, think he may be another 7's case. Similar to O'Sullivan and Silvester.

Quin_Dub

FellasFellas wrote: »

Interesting that they went for McKee over Sheehan, I wouldnt be surprised to see Sheehan look elsewhere for 21/22 season if they've kept him in the sub academy.

Back 3 I would be worried about, never rated O'Reilly growing up, Comerford a serious athlete, and Smith is a bit of a freak so hopefully those two can kick on.
O'Sullivan, Silvester have done nothing to suggest they should be kept on.

Sheehan is already in the Academy, year 3 I think.

Scottmactom

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Sheehan is already in the Academy, year 3 I think.

your getting confused, that's Dan Sheehan and he is in the senior squad.

his younger brother was competing with McKee for an academy place.

Yeah_Right

Excuse the ignorance here, is DUFC Trinity?

Scottmactom

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Excuse the ignorance here, is DUFC Trinity?

Yep.

stellenbosch

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Sheehan is already in the Academy, year 3 I think.

Dan Sheehan has a FULL leinster contract!! Announced weeks ago

PMC83

Apparently Dragons deal with Joe fell through..


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/welsh-regions-perplexed-jamie-roberts-18602512?fbclid=IwAR0FTCtZDl7WDPgOYEphoMjEZLFgDz0Bg7mk2f-UfGN7og3oII_rSmiOtGs


He may have saved his career there

Exclamation Marc

It's been confirmed that it's Saturday September 19th at 3pm for the rescheduled Leinster v Saracens game.

Interested Observer

Leinster v Saracens scheduled for Sept 19th.

https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/leinster-saracens-19-september/?fbclid=IwAR0k7HfqSvUGY-JgFgFt7N5bCCZQbafbC3oX-hxlHUsRI_qIYUA1S2SPe6w

Former Former

Noel Reid confirmed on a 2-year contract at Agen. Fair play to him, think he could do very well there. Hopefully they stay up next season.

Buer

That's a great move for him at this stage of his career. He has very few miles on the clock and a decent enough injury record. If it goes well and he embraces the move, he could have another 5 years on the field.