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Car came wrong spec

  • 08-05-2019 08:31PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭


    So I purchased a new car. After taking it home I noticed that the car I purchased was not the spec as the manufacturer states on there website.

    What are my rights here. Basically it's false advertising.

    They are unable to put the missing items on the car as there can only be done at manufacturing of the car.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    So you approached the dealer it seems.
    The dealer is the seller and is the person who fixes what went wrong in the sale.
    What spec is it on the contract and what spec did you get?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭brians947


    biko wrote: »
    So you approached the dealer it seems.
    The dealer is the seller and is the person who fixes what went wrong in the sale.
    What spec is it on the contract and what spec did you get?

    Car should have push button start and electric folding mirrors.

    It ain't got any. To install something like that it's a while new wiring lum and dash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,577 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    On the invoice does it say the required spec or something else? Is it possible the model has been revised so the website has the newer spec?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭brians947


    On the invoice does it say the required spec or something else? Is it possible the model has been revised so the website has the newer spec?

    It has the spec that the manufacturer has stated on the website. The manufacturer has subsequently removed the spec and updated there website. Manufacturer knows they are at fault here.. They seem to be taking it seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,305 ✭✭✭kirving


    Make sure to save a copy of the website advertisement for that particular specification. Was it the manufacturer, or dealers website?

    I'd be expecting very substantial rebate on the purchase price. That's a big screw up and affects you everytime you get in. Not sure of the contractual implications, but you did accept the car.

    If you otherwise love the car, could you argue for a very big discount on a new model next year? You get a new car at big discount, dealer and manufacturer sell another car.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Surely you would have noticed it didn't have push button start before leaving the dealer? Are you sure there isn't a switch for the folding mirrors


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭brians947


    I have copy of website page and a PDF of the specs that manufacturer sent to me. Specs where on the manufacturers website There Irish website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭brians947


    PsychoPete wrote: »
    Surely you would have noticed it didn't have push button start before leaving the dealer? Are you sure there isn't a switch for the folding mirrors

    I wasn't sure. So when I got home I checked the specs I had saved and noticed. That's when I immediately got in touch with dealer and it was escalated to the manufacturer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,928 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Is a car with the spec you wanted still available?
    How much extra is it in €?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,577 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Have they offered any compensation or remedy to resolve?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭brians947


    elperello wrote: »
    Is a car with the spec you wanted still available?
    How much extra is it in €?

    Two get a car with that added is going up a model and 5000 more. Only way to get those two items.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭brians947


    Have they offered any compensation or remedy to resolve?

    I've been asked what I'd like to resolve this issue..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Even if they were to attempt to fit them, it'd never be right after ripping the dash out.

    Is there any way they can cancel the deal altogether as they haven't delivered what you ordered? That would be the best outcome, or alternatively a hefty discount and you live without both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    I think accepting the car puts you on the back foot a bit. How did you not notice it was missing push button start until you got home?

    Your grievance here should go through the dealer, the manufacturer will just refer you back to them. Have you anything in writing in terms of stating the spec you were intending to receive? A brochure or any sales paperwork?

    If it boils down to a he said, she said where you are saying it should but there's nothing in writing, you really are in the hands of the dealer unfortunately. I think you could look for a reasonable amount refunded to yourself or something like a couple of free services if you have proof of some sort.

    What brand of car is it? VAG group for instance have a very clear and defined process for dealers to use for cars that are supplied missing items of spec etc and it should be easy enough to rectify. The likes of Ford cant seem to deliver a consistent spec to save their lives and dont really seem to care either. Similar applies for the Koreans, if the soec changes, it's a bit tough luck, luckily their spec's dont vary too much to begin with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,928 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    brians947 wrote: »
    I've been asked what I'd like to resolve this issue..

    Presumably you would say "a car with the spec I ordered and had a contract for".
    They get your current car back and give you the one you want.
    They take a hit but nothing major and they will be more careful in future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭brians947


    elperello wrote: »
    Presumably you would say "a car with the spec I ordered and had a contract for".
    They get your current car back and give you the one you want.
    They take a hit but nothing major and they will be more careful in future.


    This is the law.

    As described – it should match the description given verbally or in an advertisement.


  • Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    brians947 wrote: »
    This is the law.

    As described – it should match the description given verbally or in an advertisement.

    Then insist on that. I would. Don’t let them fob you off and don’t start treating that car as if it’s yours. Back with it first thing and don’t leave until you have a satisfactory arrangement in place. They can sort it out.

    What brand and model car is it? Don’t name the dealer, but there’s lots of lads here in the trade who can give spot on advice of they know what marque is involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭brians947


    JayZeus wrote: »
    Then insist on that. I would. Don’t let them fob you off and don’t start treating that car as if it’s yours. Back with it first thing and don’t leave until you have a satisfactory arrangement in place. They can sort it out.

    What brand and model car is it? Don’t name the dealer, but there’s lots of lads here in the trade who can give spot on advice of they know what marque is involved.

    I won't be naming the manufacturer but is one of the top ones. Not high end. One of the main manufacturers for us Joe soaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    brians947 wrote: »
    This is the law.

    As described – it should match the description given verbally or in an advertisement.

    I'm not saying your wrong but it seems unusual to me that a verbal agreement could be binding enough to get you out of this.

    If that was the case, why wouldn't/ couldn't you just say he promised you a Lamborghini Hurrican and then pick that up instead when they have it ready for you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,928 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    brians947 wrote: »
    I won't be naming the manufacturer but is one of the top ones. Not high end. One of the main manufacturers for us Joe soaps.

    Never mind whether they consider themselves "high end" or not a purchase of any new car is a big deal for most of us.
    You need to get all the paperwork together and check the details.
    Do you have brochures?
    What model is on the invoice?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Every spec list and ad I've ever read has "specification subject to change" or "specification correct when printed" written as a disclaimer at the bottom of the ad.

    The fact you accepted and presumably turned a key to drive the car away and didn't notice would put you in a difficult position. You could have refused to accept delivery of the car before that.

    What car is it out of interest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,410 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    brians947 wrote: »
    Car should have push button start and electric folding mirrors.

    It ain't got any. To install something like that it's a while new wiring lum and dash.

    So you didn't notice that it had no push button start before or when you were taking it home ?.Strange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,928 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    So you didn't notice that it had no push button start before or when you were taking it home ?.Strange.

    In the excitement of picking up a new car a mistake could be made.
    He would be in a stronger position if he refused to take delivery though.
    Having said that the car would be registered in his name by the time the discrepancy in spec was noticed.

    It appears that the seller did not advise of change in specification.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭Tikki Wang Wang


    You haven’t a hope of handing the car back for a fresh one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    You haven’t a hope of handing the car back for a fresh one.

    Back for a refund.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭Tikki Wang Wang


    Back for a refund.

    Nor that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,507 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    So you didn't notice that it had no push button start before or when you were taking it home ?.Strange.

    How is that relevant?
    Its not like the OP popped the button out and is now looking for another one.

    Do you check every aspect against the spec before you leave the forecourt?
    Better count all those bhp, just to be sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Nor that

    Yeah I forgot, big business is always right here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    GreeBo wrote: »
    How is that relevant?
    Its not like the OP popped the button out and is now looking for another one.

    Do you check every aspect against the spec before you leave the forecourt?
    Better count all those bhp, just to be sure.

    It's not like you're making out. Push button start would be an obvious one to cop on to. If you were expecting a push button start car and you have to put the key in to drive away, you'd just walk back inside and say hang on a minute.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,101 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    brians947 wrote: »
    So I purchased a new car. After taking it home I noticed that the car I purchased was not the spec as the manufacturer states on there website.

    What are my rights here. Basically it's false advertising.

    They are unable to put the missing items on the car as there can only be done at manufacturing of the car.

    Did you order a "Luna" spec if it was Toyota and did you receive a "Luna" spec car? Because if you did you got what you ordered. Unless you told the dealer that you wanted the push button start and folding mirrors then they haven't done anything wrong you just got caught in an update cycle.


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