VW ID.3

the_amazing_raisin

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

They're totally optional, an extra that most dealers will try to push

There were 3 on offer when I got my ID.4

1. GAP/RTI insurance - pays back the full amount of the car or the outstanding finance if the car is written off and the insurance valuation doesn't cover the remaining finance

2. SMART insurance - Basically gives you insurance against small chips and scratches to the paintwork

3. GardX protection - They cover the outside and inside of the car with magic goop which stops it getting wrecked supposedly

They were all around €400 for 3 years, I wasn't able to swing any deals

Personally I went for 1&2 but not 3. GAP insurance seems like a good idea if you're buying the car on finance, it'll stop you being put out of pocket if the car is written off

The SMART insurance might be a good plan if you want to keep the car looking good. The car will inevitably pick up some scratches along the way so I'm planning to bring the car in towards the end of the PCP term and get as many of them fixed as I can so the car retains its value for trade in

The Gard-X seemed a bit superfluous given I've insured the bodywork, and it gets some dubious reviews, so I didn't bother

GardX sounds like what I got on the i3 and to be honest it's held an amazing shine for a car with 120,500 Kms, 4 years and 3 months old. So perhaps it's not that bad a deal ?

rx8

Sam the Sham wrote: »

WTF is the "protection pack" that dealers seem to add on to these cars? Seems to add some non-negligible amount (a few hundred anyway) to the price. Can one ask not to have it?

They always try to sneak these on and hope that you don't notice. They were not impressed when I told them I'm not taking 2 of them. Went with the RTI/Gap insurance but not the others.
The Gardex/Lifeshine comes with a case of cleaning products aswell. I had them since my previous Passat. The coating doesn't protect against bird poo, so they can keep it to sneak on someone else's bill.

rx8

rx8 wrote: »

They always try to sneak these on and hope that you don't notice. They were not impressed when I told them I'm not taking 2 of them. Went with the RTI/Gap insurance but not the others.
The Gardex/Lifeshine comes with a case of cleaning products aswell. I had them since my previous Passat. The coating doesn't protect against bird poo, so they can keep it to sneak on someone else's bill.

Ah yes bird poo, yeah mine was never protected against that either so what do you recommend ? and when you say protects in what way , will bird poo still stick like glue to the car or it just won't damage the paint after it's wiped off ?

eagerv

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah yes bird poo, yeah mine was never protected against that either so what do you recommend ? and when you say protects in what way , will bird poo still stick like glue to the car or it just won't damage the paint after it's wiped off ?

I would say a paint protection film gives the best paint protection, but is expensive. Next would probably be a ceramic coating, again not cheap and best applied when car new, or very well prepared.

Personally, I just use a good wax about twice a year, my favourite is Collinite 845.

rx8

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah yes bird poo, yeah mine was never protected against that either so what do you recommend ? and when you say protects in what way , will bird poo still stick like glue to the car or it just won't damage the paint after it's wiped off ?

It's sold as a protective coating, but I don't know from what. I clean off any poo,as soon as I can and any that's caked on I soak for a while to soften it,before cleaning off. No escaping it really.

the_amazing_raisin

[Deleted User] wrote: »

GardX sounds like what I got on the i3 and to be honest it's held an amazing shine for a car with 120,500 Kms, 4 years and 3 months old. So perhaps it's not that bad a deal ?

I think it's the most popular one, and it seems fine if applied properly

If I was going with it I'd probably get a specialist detailer to apply it, they'd have a lot more experience and would probably do a better job

My thinking was to either get the GardX or the bodywork insurance. The GardX may or may not work against scratches and chips, seems like it could go either way

But with the insurance, I'm covered for up to something like €2,500 and it'll cover scratches up to 15cm and chips up to 1.5cm I think

So the insurance seemed like the better bet overall, money beats snake oil in the end

the_amazing_raisin

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

I think it's the most popular one, and it seems fine if applied properly

If I was going with it I'd probably get a specialist detailer to apply it, they'd have a lot more experience and would probably do a better job

My thinking was to either get the GardX or the bodywork insurance. The GardX may or may not work against scratches and chips, seems like it could go either way

But with the insurance, I'm covered for up to something like €2,500 and it'll cover scratches up to 15cm and chips up to 1.5cm I think

So the insurance seemed like the better bet overall, money beats snake oil in the end

How much is the insurance again and does it cover you for the 3 years ?

See the problem with repairing scratches and stone chips is that it's very difficult to get this type of work done without it being obvious that work was done to the paint.

the_amazing_raisin

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah yes bird poo, yeah mine was never protected against that either so what do you recommend ? and when you say protects in what way , will bird poo still stick like glue to the car or it just won't damage the paint after it's wiped off ?

Not much you can do with bird poo other than try to wash it off before it gets stuck on

The more embedded dirt gets, the more damage it'll do to the gel coat when taking it off, so regular washes are the only real solution. I'm trying to wash the ID.4 once a month, hopefully I'll at least make it through the summer before that resolution falls flat

I think there's something to be said for throwing a quick coat of wax on two or three times a year. I'm not particularly good at it but if you can get a coat onto the paintwork after cleaning it then it'll help stop the dirt sticking. Also, shiny car as a bonus

I'm saying that now knowing the front of my car is like an insect graveyard and there's muck streaked up one side and the back. I'll wash it next week

the_amazing_raisin

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How much is the insurance again and does it cover you for the 3 years ?

See the problem with repairing scratches and stone chips is that it's very difficult to get this type of work done without it being obvious that work was done to the paint.

I think each of the packs was €400 and covers you for 3 years. Basically up to the end of the PCP

I believe they're offered by VWFS, not the dealership, so probably the same offer for all dealers

I didn't see it in the small print, but I imagine there's a requirement that the VW garage does the work, so they'll know anyway. On the flip side, they have added incentive to do a good job as it'll protect the resale value for them

We'll see how it works out in 3 years, I'm sure I'll have a bad encounter with a pillar or something before then

I'll probably scratch the alloys or something, that'd be a real heartbreaker :eek:

eagerv

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

Not much you can do with bird poo other than try to wash it off before it gets stuck on

The more embedded dirt gets, the more damage it'll do to the gel coat when taking it off, so regular washes are the only real solution. I'm trying to wash the ID.4 once a month, hopefully I'll at least make it through the summer before that resolution falls flat

I think there's something to be said for throwing a quick coat of wax on two or three times a year. I'm not particularly good at it but if you can get a coat onto the paintwork after cleaning it then it'll help stop the dirt sticking. Also, shiny car as a bonus

I'm saying that now knowing the front of my car is like an insect graveyard and there's muck streaked up one side and the back. I'll wash it next week

I find that after a good wax is applied most of the heavy dirt hoses off with a good pressure of water (I don't use a power washer on my car). Then with a good mitt and a neutral pH soapy shampoo a car like the ID.3 is very quick and easy to wash. I almost enjoy it, not like my last Honda which was all awkward shapes which used to hold dirt.
Bird dirt is another problem though.. My car spends a lot of time at a Fishing village where a recent gull must have demolished some epoxy before depositing it on my car.:eek:. No way it would come off with gentle washing and softening. I had to cut (difficult) a groove in it and drip in boiling water. Eventually it broke apart with no damage to the black roof.

jogdish

Had my test drive today, very nice very impressed lovely huge windscreen. I am looking at a 'life' but the model I drove had the full reversing camera, so didn't get to see the sensor only version.

I was given and heavily encouraged to think of the 204hp model not the 104, not sure its something that is worth it.

eagerv

jogdish wrote: »

Had my test drive today, very nice very impressed lovely huge windscreen. I am looking at a 'life' but the model I drove had the full reversing camera, so didn't get to see the sensor only version.

I was given and heavily encouraged to think of the 204hp model not the 104, not sure its something that is worth it.

Depends on your priorities, but I would take the 201hp rather than the 145hp every time, I think it's well worth the extra few bob.

jogdish

eagerv wrote: »

Depends on your priorities, but I would take the 201hp rather than the 145hp every time, I think it's well worth the extra few bob.

Do you have any opinion on the rear camera/ compared to the rear sensor ?, I cannot find any video online of the rear sensor without the camera, annoyed i forgot to ask today the show room.

eagerv

jogdish wrote: »

Do you have any opinion on the rear camera/ compared to the rear sensor ?, I cannot find any video online of the rear sensor without the camera, annoyed i forgot to ask today the show room.

Mine has no camera, first car in a while I have had without. But has sensors front and rear which work well with a good graphic pic and sounds of what's going on. I now don't really miss the camera, vis is pretty good out of the car when reversing. (being rural I don't do much reversing anyway..:))
But I still think VW should have included it in all models..

jogdish

eagerv wrote: »

Mine has no camera, first car in a while I have had without. But has sensors front and rear which work well with a good graphic pic and sounds of what's going on. I now don't really miss the camera, vis is pretty good out of the car when reversing. (being rural I don't do much reversing anyway..:))
But I still think VW should have included it in all models..

Appreciated thanks, yup it's no doubt cheap as hell and a simple thing, but I guess that's the market, annoying as it's standard on much cheaper older cars. Thanks again for the feedback.

eagerv

jogdish wrote: »

Appreciated thanks, yup it's no doubt cheap as hell and a simple thing, but I guess that's the market, annoying as it's standard on much cheaper older cars. Thanks again for the feedback.

No problem, agree. But VW are masters at extracting a lot more money from one to move up a spec level..;)

hogan86

Can anyone with an ID.3 Style tell me does the front matrix led headlights have the :

“IQ. Light with “Eye Technology” welcome scenarios” ?


Does it have the door puddles and the centre led strip between the two headlights and badge ?

Like this video:
https://youtu.be/O64RBrYuxRg

fits

hogan86 wrote: »

Can anyone with an ID.3 Style tell me does the front matrix led headlights have the :

“IQ. Light with “Eye Technology” welcome scenarios” ?


Does it have the door puddles and the centre led strip between the two headlights and badge ?

Like this video:
https://youtu.be/O64RBrYuxRg

I don’t know the answer but I wonder do we really need this stuff. I’d cope fine without a reversing camera etc too. In fact if I could get a basic car with the big batteries anddecent seats Id probably go for it. And the safety tech. And save a few grand on the other stuff.

That said our newest car is a 2010 and basic enough spec at that. So I’m not used to all the toys.

waynegalway

hogan86 wrote: »

Can anyone with an ID.3 Style tell me does the front matrix led headlights have the :

“IQ. Light with “Eye Technology” welcome scenarios” ?


Does it have the door puddles and the centre led strip between the two headlights and badge ?

Like this video:
https://youtu.be/O64RBrYuxRg

We have the Style spec.

Not sure about the welcome scenarios. Is that where the headlights almost wink at ya? I don’t think it has that. The lights go up and down when you turn them on, but I think that’s more of a self levelling thing.

It does have the puddle lights on the front doors, and the light bar across the front between the head lights does light up.

the_amazing_raisin

jogdish wrote: »

Do you have any opinion on the rear camera/ compared to the rear sensor ?, I cannot find any video online of the rear sensor without the camera, annoyed i forgot to ask today the show room.

You can probably replicate the experience of not having a camera

Go into reverse and when the camera screen comes on just hit the X to exit it

When you get close to something, the parking sensors should comes on and it'll show a graphic on the right half of the screen of how close the object is

rocketspocket

Any talk about getting more OTA software updates? i got 2.1 installed back in early march and haven't received anything since.. i had read they planned updates every 12 weeks so hopefully expecting 1 any day now?

the_amazing_raisin

rocketspocket wrote: »

Any talk about getting more OTA software updates? i got 2.1 installed back in early march and haven't received anything since.. i had read they planned updates every 12 weeks so hopefully expecting 1 any day now?

Apparently 2.3 is starting to go to customers in Germany, so I guess we'll need to wait for our turn

ewj1978

ewj1978 wrote: »

As for an update on my broken ID.3. Got a phonecall yesterday saying the new controller was installed and they should be good to go from today. Pity I'm working till Monday

Aye, pick the car up Monday morning. Supposedly all fixed. They've a window switch on order. LOL didn't even know a window was broken...

eagerv

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

Apparently 2.3 is starting to go to customers in Germany, so I guess we'll need to wait for our turn

I suppose if it all goes tits-up and bricks a few modules it's easier to replace units in Germany than here...:rolleyes:

Silent Running

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

Apparently 2.3 is starting to go to customers in Germany, so I guess we'll need to wait for our turn

The 2.3 that's going on the few German ID.3s is not the OTA update. The files have been loaded on to the dealer portal and one fella had downloaded them and some owners are installing them manually from USB. I believe it's not the full update, as the HVAC file isn't uploaded yet.

DrPhilG

BOLLOCKS!!!!!

Asshole dealer just emailed to say that the car is scheduled for week 35 delivery.

Original one was week 24.

After his previous cock up it went back to week 29.

Now he says it's week 35.

That means late September or early October for delivery.

fits

That’s rubbish Phil. What are you going to do?

DrPhilG

fits wrote: »

That’s rubbish Phil. What are you going to do?

I honestly have no clue.

Shook hands on a sale for my i3 this morning too. Few hours later this dipstick emails with a delay.

He's offered a loaner til the ID3 comes, but I don't want an October reg car.

But if I push back to a January collection, there's no guarantee that the 0% finance will still exist.

Plus I'm due to handover the i3 at the end of July so even if the 0% rolled onto the 221 car, that would mean 5 months of paying for petrol.

TitianGerm

DrPhilG wrote: »

I honestly have no clue.

Shook hands on a sale for my i3 this morning too. Few hours later this dipstick emails with a delay.

He's offered a loaner til the ID3 comes, but I don't want an October reg car.

But if I push back to a January collection, there's no guarantee that the 0% finance will still exist.

Plus I'm due to handover the i3 at the end of July so even if the 0% rolled onto the 221 car, that would mean 5 months of paying for petrol.

If you're getting the car on PCP it won't matter when you buy the car because in three years time you'll be changing up or buying it up.

rx8

I would have thought that most buyers were going the PCP route and handing the car back in 3 years time. I have one of the first cars delivered here and that was a September delivery. Most of the others are in to October and November. I know it's nice to have the newest reg number but at the end of the day it doesn't really make that much difference.

You can always trade up early in 2024 and get a 242 reg at the start of July then.