Leinster v Toulouse L'effort pour cinq contre The Drive for Five

fitz

[Deleted User] wrote: »

gif of Lowe fantastically catching Henshaw's pass

And that's why he has to play the final - he's never gonna let you down. Incredible.

kenmc

awec wrote: »

So, on a more serious point, what's the craic with the Guinness being replaced by Murphys?

Who signed off on that?

Delighted with the upgrade. Had resigned myself to drinking blandness, got beer with flavour instead!

Heineken and Murphy's are both in the Heineken portfolio - presume that's why it was done, cos Heineken cup

laugh

swiwi_ wrote: »

...should have went...

Yip this an Irish-based forum

(to be sure)

Fixed for you:
Ba chóir go ndeachaigh an gradam chuig O'Brien. (Here's a clue as to why Irish people have strange sentence structure and word use at times.)

Clegg

The Medard non try on 60 minutes was a pivotal moment. Toulouse we're starting to get their offload game going and causing our defence lots of trouble with their quick rucks. Fair play to Ringrose for tracking the dink.over the top. If Medard scored there was only 8 points in it with 29 minutes to go.

The Lost Sheep

awec wrote: »

So, on a more serious point, what's the craic with the Guinness being replaced by Murphys?

Who signed off on that?

Heineken game. Wont have Guinness tapped for these games.

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Seemed to be an experimental game for the bars, level 1 was card payments only as well, no cash.

Level 1 will be cashless soon enough for all games maybe 1 till per bar having cash for people who dont have card.

kenmc wrote: »

Delighted with the upgrade. Had resigned myself to drinking blandness, got beer with flavour instead!

Heineken and Murphy's are both in the Heineken portfolio - presume that's why it was done, cos Heineken cup

exactly. Heineken game. so no diageo.

Bookies have both teams even stevens. Gonna be some game

awec

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Heineken game. Wont have Guinness tapped for these games.

Level 1 will be cashless soon enough for all games maybe 1 till per bar having cash for people who dont have card.

exactly. Heineken game. so no diageo.

They had Guinness at the quarter final.

irishbucsfan

awec wrote: »

They had Guinness at the quarter final.

Isn’t it only the semis and final that EPCR run themselves?

thomond2006

awec wrote: »

They had Guinness at the quarter final.

Perhaps it's something to do with the game being EPCR controlled and/or their deal with sponsors.

Edit: Damn you IBF!

Squatter

Deleted User wrote: »

Bookies have both teams even stevens. Gonna be some game

Only if the ref and the weather are good.

At least we won't get Barnes, who was poor enough in last year's final, although in fairness he had a good game yesterday.

But if we get Garces or Poite, then I very much fear that the cheatingest team will win. And, although we're pretty streetwise, we're not up to Sarries' level.

flatface

Squatter wrote: »

Only if the ref and the weather are good.

At least we won't get Barnes, who was poor enough in last year's final, although in fairness he had a good game yesterday.

But if we get Garces or Poite, then I very much fear that the cheatingest team will win. And, although we're pretty streetwise, we're not up to Sarries' level.

So we are streetwise but they are cheats? Impressive spin.

Fantastic Leinster performance, great to see such hunger and dominance. I think Sarries looked great though, Farrell is really at his peak at the moment, and I don’t think we will bully them at all. In a 50/50 slugging competition I would favour them to take it, so I am hoping we can put in an early performance to unsettle them and shift the balance in our favour

Squatter

flatface wrote: »

So we are streetwise but they are cheats?

Every professional rugby team is streetwise, indeed some prominent players' reputations are built largely on their prowess in the area, but some teams take it further than others.

Not going to list the usual suspects here, but for me, Sarries are probably the cheatingest team in Europe. Leinster would be quite a bit lower in the roll of dishonour!

irishbucsfan

Squatter wrote: »

Every professional rugby team is streetwise, indeed some prominent players' reputations are built largely on their prowess in the area, but some teams take it further than others.

Not going to list the usual suspects here, but for me, Sarries are probably the cheatingest team in Europe. Leinster would be quite a bit lower in the roll of dishonour!

What do Saracens do regularly that Leinster don’t that make them cheats?

Clegg

I've watched a replay of Leinster's disallowed try at the end of the first half. To be honest I really don't see what was wrong with it. Barnes said Conan initiated contact with the Toulouse player, but the latter had clearly darted up to make a hit on Conan who he thought would be the receiver.

Exclamation Marc

Clegg wrote: »

I've watched a replay of Leinster's disallowed try at the end of the first half. To be honest I really don't see what was wrong with it. Barnes said Conan initiated contact with the Toulouse player, but the latter had clearly darted up to make a hit on Conan who he thought would be the receiver.

Mmmm agree with this. I think another referee would accept that Conan was running a line which he was entitled to do.

irishbucsfan

Clegg wrote: »

I've watched a replay of Leinster's disallowed try at the end of the first half. To be honest I really don't see what was wrong with it. Barnes said Conan initiated contact with the Toulouse player, but the latter had clearly darted up to make a hit on Conan who he thought would be the receiver.

Conan definitely hits him. He’s only doing what you’d do naturally but the Toulouse player is taken out of play by it and he had a chance of getting to the call carrier.

If Conan hadn’t shaped up for contact, thrown his arms up or something like that, he might have gotten away with it, but I don’t really blame him

Clegg

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Conan definitely hits him. He’s only doing what you’d do naturally but the Toulouse player is taken out of play by it and he had a chance of getting to the call carrier.

If Conan hadn’t shaped up for contact, thrown his arms up or something like that, he might have gotten away with it, but I don’t really blame him

Oh yeah, Conan definitely hit him. But it just looked to me like he was bracing for contact. It's not really important now, but still think it should have been ruled as an on filed collision. Henshaw's pass was probably forward in the next phase anyway.

And despite Buer's inevitable protestations, James Lowe simply must start the final. His two finishes were exceptional and he adds so much all over the pitch. He was used as a carrier on a number of occasions, drew in two tacklers and offloaded to a free man. He's world class.

Buer

I wouldn't protest. He's top class and obviously features in our strongest team. I'm just risk adverse to potentially having Hugh O'Sullivan play a large chunk of a final. Even if we had Mick Kearney or Ross Molony, I'd consider dropping Fardy (although I'd be very unhappy about it).

I'd be more than happy for Lowe to start but it's a risk and I think we've already seen that the coaching staff tend to lean towards the percentage call and omit him.

The problem with Saracens is that they are relentless and the game will be hugely demanding for the players physically. If McGrath doesn't pick up a knock, it will be a big ask for him to play 70+ minutes. It's a messy situation.

Clegg

Buer wrote: »

I wouldn't protest. He's top class and obviously features in our strongest team. I'm just risk adverse to potentially having Hugh O'Sullivan play a large chunk of a final. Even if we had Mick Kearney or Ross Molony, I'd consider dropping Fardy (although I'd be very unhappy about it).

I'd be more than happy for Lowe to start but it's a risk and I think we've already seen that the coaching staff tend to lean towards the percentage call and omit him.

The problem with Saracens is that they are relentless and the game will be hugely demanding for the players physically. If McGrath doesn't pick up a knock, it will be a big ask for him to play 70+ minutes. It's a messy situation.

Starting Lowe is definitely a risk, but it's one I think we need to take. Saracens are are well organised side that are extremely hard to break down. We've seen how Munster have utterly failed to make in roads against them on two separate occasions. We need our best backs on the pitch to stand them up and get them to make decisions on the fly which they may not be comfortable in making.

Saracens always prepare well for games. I think we'll need Lowe as he's a player that you really can't prepare for. You know he'll try a hand off and then an offload to a support runner. But you still have to stop him doing it. So far nobody has really got to grips with his style of play.

Yes, we need to balance the risk of McGrath not finishing the game, but I think not having Lowe in the side is a needless handicap on ourselves.

Squatter

irishbucsfan wrote: »

What do Saracens do regularly that Leinster don’t that make them cheats?

Why not watch them and make up your own mind?

RasTa

What's with the areas being locked on the Newcastle website. £90 for Cat1 is taking the piss too.

The Lost Sheep

RasTa wrote: »

What's with the areas being locked on the Newcastle website. £90 for Cat1 is taking the piss too.

Its final of premier tournament in Europe. Wouldnt say €90 for category 1 is taking piss.
Area's locked are allocations for teams fans i assume

irishbucsfan

Squatter wrote: »

Why not watch them and make up your own mind?

I have watched both. You made the assertion, so are you able to back that up at all?

irishbucsfan

irishbucsfan wrote: »

What do Saracens do regularly that Leinster don’t that make them cheats?

They have English accents

Squatter

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I have watched both. You made the assertion, so are you able to back that up at all?

It's my opinion, based on watching both teams regularly over the past number of years. You are completely free to agree or disagree with it as you prefer. Rest assured that I won't lose any sleep over which option you take.

I will add that, with all due respect to Peter O'Mahony, I regard Itoje and Liam Williams as probably the biggest cheats in European rugby.

That too - in case you're confused - is my opinion.

Squatter

Deleted User wrote: »

They have English accents

Actually they have English, South African, Australian, Argentinian, Scottish and Welsh accents. And their DoR has a Northern Irish accent!

The Lost Sheep

Squatter wrote: »

It's my opinion, based on watching both teams regularly over the past number of years. You are completely free to agree or disagree with it as you prefer. Rest assured that I won't lose any sleep over which option you take.

I will add that, with all due respect to Peter O'Mahony, I regard Itoje and Liam Williams as probably the biggest cheats in European rugby.

That too - in case you're confused - is my opinion.

Anything to actually back up what you said rather than all this nonsense.
What exactly do they do to be "biggest cheats" as there's a lot more than statements with nothing to back it up.

pickarooney

Faugheen wrote: »

Conan's increased involvement and good performances as the Six Nations progressed shows that gap has narrowed significantly.

I maintain that Stander's best form in an Irish jersey has been when he played at 6. That's not to say he's been poor at 8 because it's far from the case, but he was outstanding at 6 for Ireland.

With all our 7s pretty much written off, who are we going to play there next season? What's up with VdF?

pickarooney

awec wrote: »

So, on a more serious point, what's the craic with the Guinness being replaced by Murphys?

Who signed off on that?

I dunno awec, last time someone flogged your lot a Murphy you weren't complaining.

Richie_Rich89

It was a shocking pass under relatively minimal pressure out of Henshaw for the Lowe non try. Looked forward to me, so the try would probably have been chalked off anyway.

I thought Henshaw looked sharp overall, but contrast his execution of the basics with some of the on-the-money passes Nonu has been throwing in SR lately.