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Glico Man

rm212 wrote: »

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gaming/features/playstation-ceo-jim-ryan-70-fair-price-ps5-games-launch-line/

Jim Ryan: £70 is a fair price for PS5 games

What an absolute twat this Jim Ryan guy is, I don't like him at all. I imagine any consumer unfriendly decisions like raising prices and remastering stuff with a charge comes from him.

The cheek of him coming out and saying 70GBP/80EUR is fair when the US pays 70USD.

Haven't seen a price as high as €70 anywhere but the PS Store for COD. Spider-man MM is €59.99 seems standard enough, even if it is more of a standalone DLC rather than a full game.

Not entirely true that the US pay $70. In most states they don't have sales tax on the price until you checkout, unless you happen to (like my US profile) live in a sales tax free state. Bless you Delaware.

Prices seem more or less the same as PS4 on current viewing. Not entirely unfair they may be €5/10 more expensive for next gen gaming IMO.

rm212

Glico Man wrote: »

Haven't seen a price as high as €70 anywhere but the PS Store for COD. Spider-man MM is €59.99 seems standard enough, even if it is more of a standalone DLC rather than a full game.

Not entirely true that the US pay $70. In most states they don't have sales tax on the price until you checkout, unless you happen to (like my US profile) live in a sales tax free state. Bless you Delaware.

Prices seem more or less the same as PS4 on current viewing. Not entirely unfair they may be €5/10 more expensive for next gen gaming IMO.

The official pricing is not 70 EURO, it's 80 EURO. Sony have already announced that all of their main first party titles (Miles Morales excluded because it is smaller) will be price at 80 EURO and 70GBP. Look at Demon's Souls for an example. Horizon and God of War Ragnarok will be the same.

jones

Glico Man wrote: »

Haven't seen a price as high as €70 anywhere but the PS Store for COD. Spider-man MM is €59.99 seems standard enough, even if it is more of a standalone DLC rather than a full game.

Not entirely true that the US pay $70. In most states they don't have sales tax on the price until you checkout, unless you happen to (like my US profile) live in a sales tax free state. Bless you Delaware.

Prices seem more or less the same as PS4 on current viewing. Not entirely unfair they may be €5/10 more expensive for next gen gaming IMO.

Not entirely unfair but the prices have definitely gone up more than i thought they would. Demon Souls is €80 on the Irish PSN (well €79.99) it is why i purchased the disk PS5 if you were at the mercy of the store particularly in Europe its an expensive business. Disks are practically always cheaper and can be resold or lent etc.

rm212

jones wrote: »

Not entirely unfair but the prices have definitely gone up more than i thought they would. Demon Souls is €80 on the Irish PSN (well €79.99) it is why i purchased the disk PS5 if you were at the mercy of the store particularly in Europe its an expensive business. Disks are practically always cheaper and can be resold or lent etc.

That's the new price point for first party full sizes games. 80 euro. We used to get disc copies for 60 euro, so a 20 euro increase.

Even Miles Morales is now 60 euro, which they compared to Uncharted Lost Legacy in size and scope, which launched at 40 euro, again a 20 euro increase.

LeeroyJ.

Lucked out on Currys earlier today and grabbed the headset and charging station. No idea if I will actually receive it but the order has been placed.

super_furry

rm212 wrote: »

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gaming/features/playstation-ceo-jim-ryan-70-fair-price-ps5-games-launch-line/


The cheek of him coming out and saying 70GBP/80EUR is fair when the US pays 70USD.

They pay $70 before tax. We pay €80 after tax, which is 23%.

If you want to compare like with like, we pay €61.60 before tax for games, the US pays $70 before tax for games.

Berty

Berty wrote: »

Bit curious that of all the things Argos lists, and obviously doesn't list, they manage to list a PS5 NVMe SSD, getting a bit ahead of themselves there I think. Also, apparently it has lights in it, yeah somebody didn't proof read that. RGB Lighting controls to match your style. Back to the drawing board Argos

https://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/8882378/Trail/searchtext%3EPS5.htm

Curiously enough then they've the other PS5 accessories up there, stock levels vary store to store but one example is that the HD Camera for Limerick says "pre order for delivery to store on the 20th November" Interesting so they're either getting a delivery on the 19th or overnight on the 20th............................interesting *strokes chin

Ensure to check Argos regardless on Wednesday night and Early Thursday morning. Better off taking the time to check regardless.

rm212

super_furry wrote: »

They pay $70 before tax. We pay €80 after tax, which is 23%.

If you want to compare like with like, we pay €61.60 before tax for games, the US pays $70 before tax for games.

Your maths is wrong there, 80 / 123 * 100 = 65.04 we pay before tax. You have to divide by 123 and multiply by 100 to get the tax off something that includes tax.

What is 65.04 in USD? 77.28. So there you go, even with the tax argument, it's 10% more here before tax.

And tell me, why doesn't the tax argument apply to the actual console? It's 499 euro and 499 dollars. The convention has ALWAYS been price parity between $ and € because it works out to be roughly fair. But now it is $70 and €80 for games.

Exclamation Marc

rm212 wrote: »

The cheek of him coming out and saying 70GBP/80EUR is fair when the US pays 70USD.

70USD plus tax.

rm212

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

70USD plus tax.

Which is still significantly cheaper.

Evilbart

Anyone have payment taken from Amazon yet? My delivery says between 21-24th.

Bit silly that they can deliver me a toothbrush by tomorrow morning if I order it right now but the ps5 will take a few days by the looks of it.

dan786

Evilbart wrote: »

Anyone have payment taken from Amazon yet? My delivery says between 21-24th.

Bit silly that they can deliver me a toothbrush by tomorrow morning if I order it right now but the ps5 will take a few days by the looks of it.

Only UK so far, they have started shipping them there alos.

quokula

USD is quite weak at the moment. If you took the pre-pandemic exchange rate from around February (which is probably when a lot of these decisions are made), 70 USD before tax would be about the same as 80 EUR. 6 months into a Biden presidency the rates might be the back there again. It's a bit of a pointless exercise making such comparisons.

It's far more relevant to just make a judgement on whether you believe the price here is reasonable value for money and I don't think it's unreasonable, it's basically just keeping up with inflation and it's competitive with a cinema trip or other any other form of entertainment for the amount of hours you typically get. I remember paying £70 for N64 games when average salaries were probably half what they are now. Plus PSN sales are usually very good value, most games are heavily discounted after a few months.

mr c

Evilbart wrote: »

Anyone have payment taken from Amazon yet? My delivery says between 21-24th.

Bit silly that they can deliver me a toothbrush by tomorrow morning if I order it right now but the ps5 will take a few days by the looks of it.

Mine is still showing in the open orders section , marked "Arriving Friday"

markcahill1985

Looks to have been a firmware update released but doesn't seem to address the rest mode issues.

sticker

Interesting Demon Souls new secret...

https://www.gameinformer.com/gamer-culture/2020/11/16/demons-souls-on-ps5-has-a-new-secret

SureYWouldntYa

markcahill1985 wrote: »

Looks to have been a firmware update released but doesn't seem to address the rest mode issues.

What exactly are the rest modes issues? Does it just crash or what's the problem?

How Soon Is Now

markcahill1985 wrote: »

Looks to have been a firmware update released but doesn't seem to address the rest mode issues.

Was just gonna post this can't find any info on what it does though other than "System Performance"

Evilbart

mr c wrote: »

Mine is still showing in the open orders section , marked "Arriving Friday"

Is this shipping directly to your Irish address?

gerrybbadd

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

What exactly are the rest modes issues? Does it just crash or what's the problem?

I think it's not just Rest Mode, but Spiderman MM is mixed in with the error somehow too. Basically, whatever the cause, it can brick your console

https://screenrant.com/ps5-rest-mode-turn-off-settings-playstation-5-problems/

fixXxer

sticker wrote: »

I assume heat issues etc will not be effected if the PS5 is placed horizontally... I dont fancy leaving it vertical with a looper of a 7 year old son in close proximity

That reminds me when I had my launch PS4. It was only three days old and I came i to my son (then 2) trying to jam a disc in to it while there was already one in it. Drive was ****ed. Quick call to Sony and a "Oh I don't know what happened it just stopped working" later and it was sent off for repairs. They never charged me thankfully and I learned a valuable lesson about technology and littlies.

It was a sad week while it was gone

SureYWouldntYa

gerrybbadd wrote: »

I think it's not just Rest Mode, but Spiderman MM is mixed in with the error somehow too. Basically, whatever the cause, it can brick your console

https://screenrant.com/ps5-rest-mode-turn-off-settings-playstation-5-problems/

Good thing i saw this so, was planning on leaving it on Thursday night on rest mode to download all the digital games I want for it, will just let them download in the background on Friday while playing so although on PS4 at least that was always way slower and rest mode was the fastest way

gerrybbadd

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Good thing i saw this so, was planning on leaving it on Thursday night on rest mode to download all the digital games I want for it, will just let them download in the background on Friday while playing so although on PS4 at least that was always way slower and rest mode was the fastest way

Sony released another patch today, but it's not clear yet if it has fixed the issue. Seemingly, you shouldn't attach a USB hard drive to the back USB port either, it's been known to cause issues

kirkfx

super_furry wrote: »

They pay $70 before tax. We pay €80 after tax, which is 23%.

If you want to compare like with like, we pay €61.60 before tax for games, the US pays $70 before tax for games.

Close, but you calculated 23% of €80

Its €65 before VAT of 23% (€14.95) => Total €79.95

Edit: Just saw someone else already posted the correct maths

Damo 2k9

Sitting here saying to myself that surely Smyths will hand over the consoles today, just to cover themselves and ensure everything gets delivered by Thursday....and we might get it tomorrow if DPD are on point...

Been refreshing all day, even managed to take Friday off too.

BigMo1

I'm hoping Smyths throw a few up for sale after uncompleted preorders. I may be clutching at straws though.

SomeSayKos

Damo 2k9 wrote: »

Sitting here saying to myself that surely Smyths will hand over the consoles today, just to cover themselves and ensure everything gets delivered by Thursday....and we might get it tomorrow if DPD are on point...
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I'd imagine they'll be collected from smyths early tomorrow morning and they'll be delivered on Thursday for some folk, Friday for other folk

duploelabs

Mr Crispy wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t50S_6XP7DY

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Sony released another patch today, but it's not clear yet if it has fixed the issue. Seemingly, you shouldn't attach a USB hard drive to the back USB port either, it's been known to cause issues

Odd as it's suggested in the video above

How Soon Is Now

duploelabs wrote: »

Odd as it's suggested in the video above

Ya im confused about this external drive/rest mode issue! Are they separate issues or happen when used together?

Bill36

Hi anyone interested in Spiderman Miles Morales Ps4 version but can be upgrade to ps5 version.