Leaf kit for uneven rear tyre wear

Orebro

Hey all. Has anyone had the (shim?) kit from Nissan fitted to correct the tyre wear on the back passenger side tyre of the Leaf? If so was it a success, and how much did it cost?

Gumbo

Orebro wrote: »

Hey all. Has anyone had the (shim?) kit from Nissan fitted to correct the tyre wear on the back passenger side tyre of the Leaf? If so was it a success, and how much did it cost?

I got mine done by Nissan with some goodwill.

There’s also a garage in Kildare that can do it cheaper than Nissan. Phil in Electric Autos posted about them on Facebook last year.

obi604

Hi, old thread

I know this shim kit repair has to be done due to the NCT test and the 'rear axle side-slip/alignment test'
mine was -17 back in 2018. Tolerance are +18 to -18, so I am right on the limit.

so more than likely I need to get it done, but wont really know until the NCT test.

My question is: is it dangerous to be driving the car in the state its in (-17 result for rear axle)

KCross

obi604 wrote: »

Hi, old thread

I know this shim kit repair has to be done due to the NCT test and the 'rear axle side-slip/alignment test'
mine was -17 back in 2018. Tolerance are +18 to -18, so I am right on the limit.

so more than likely I need to get it done, but wont really know until the NCT test.

My question is: is it dangerous to be driving the car in the state its in (-17 result for rear axle)

No, if it was it would be an NCT fail.

What it means for you is that you will have excessive tyre wear... thats all really.

obi604

KCross wrote: »

No, if it was it would be an NCT fail.

What it means for you is that you will have excessive tyre wear... thats all really.

fair enough. but the NCT test was done in Nov 2018 (1.5 years ago) so between then and now, may have got a lot worse.



Look like my next NCT is Mar 2021 (with Corona etc, was supposed to be November 20)



Do I just simply wait until then and see what the NCT test result gives and action if needed i.e no overall major safety concerns in the mean time relates to the rear axle.

zilog_jones

KCross wrote: »

What it means for you is that you will have excessive tyre wear... thats all really.

The side slip test is not done for tyre wear. It means your car isn't driving straight, which could also mean it won't necessarily stop in a straight line in an emergency braking situation.

The OP's car is turning left 17 metres per kilometre as per the last NCT, they're probably used to the slight steering correction required but it's close to what is considered the safe limit.

obi604

zilog_jones wrote: »

The side slip test is not done for tyre wear. It means your car isn't driving straight, which could also mean it won't necessarily stop in a straight line in an emergency braking situation.

The OP's car is turning left 17 metres per kilometre as per the last NCT, they're probably used to the slight steering correction required but it's close to what is considered the safe limit.

so in a nutshell, nothing totally major to worry about again until flagged in next NCT?

KCross

obi604 wrote: »

so in a nutshell, nothing totally major to worry about again until flagged in next NCT?

Unless you are planning to move the car on, go get the shim kit fitted. It will be better all round if you do that.

obi604

anyone know if I can order this shim kit from micks garage or even directly from Nissan or do Nissan even do this kind of order to a joe soap?

Gumbo

obi604 wrote: »

anyone know if I can order this shim kit from micks garage or even directly from Nissan or do Nissan even do this kind of order to a joe soap?

It’s €500 supply and fit from Nissan from memory.
There was also a garage in Kildare doing it for €250 or there about a as I remember Phil from electric autos talking about it on the Facebook group 2 years ago.

obi604

When the shim kit is done, is it advisable to replace the tyres also? Due to the rear ones wearing unevenly (and dont want these uneven tyres on after the fix?)

zg3409

obi604 wrote: »

When the shim kit is done, is it advisable to replace the tyres also? Due to the rear ones wearing unevenly (and dont want these uneven tyres on after the fix?)

Depends on the wear. If you don't change them they should quickly wear back even, but you will have reduced grip on the rear until that happens. Check wear on different parts of tyre, ideally with something accurate to 0.5mm

obi604

thanks.

If one didn’t go down the main dealer route, who would be best to do this? A general mechanic or a tyre supplier. Or is this specialized?

I got a couple of replies from Nissan dealers along the lines of: we have never heard of this before or we have never done this job before etc

so Im thinking I might be as as well off to just go to an independent where the labour wont be the bones of 100 euro per hour etc

MorganIRL

obi604 wrote: »

thanks.

If one didn’t go down the main dealer route, who would be best to do this? A general mechanic or a tyre supplier. Or is this specialized?

I got a couple of replies from Nissan dealers along the lines of: we have never heard of this before or we have never done this job before etc

so Im thinking I might be as as well off to just go to an independent where the labour wont be the bones of 100 euro per hour etc

Jumping on here as well, does anyone know how hard a job it is. I'd love to go to an indie, but Kildare is too far to travel from mayo for this. Can I buy from nicks garage and get my mechanic to do it??

obi604

MorganIRL wrote: »

Jumping on here as well, does anyone know how hard a job it is. I'd love to go to an indie, but Kildare is too far to travel from mayo for this. Can I buy from nicks garage and get my mechanic to do it??

Yeah. Would love to know this

obi604

Hi

my rear axle is not in the best of shape. The 'rear axle side-slip/alignment test' was -17 back in 2018. Tolerance are +18 to -18, so I am right on the limit.

the rear tyres also have some uneven wear according to the last report. (outer: 2.5mm, middle: 3.0mm, inner: 3.5mm)

If I was to do the shim kit job and not replace the rear tyres for a few weeks - could the fact that the rear tyres have uneven wear upset the whole rear axle shim kit job.

KCross

No, get it done. It will be fine.

Orebro

KCross wrote: »

No, get it done. It will be fine.

I rang my local Nissan dealer, they hadn't a clue about the issue or the shim kit (although they're not interested at the best of times anyway!). Rang a few tyre places and I may as well have been talking to the wall.

So I'm at a loss as to how to get this issue sorted. If you manage to get further than me please let me know I would appreciate it. Mine went through the NCT last time without issue, but I might not be as lucky next time.

KCross

Orebro wrote: »

I rang my local Nissan dealer, they hadn't a clue about the issue or the shim kit (although they're not interested at the best of times anyway!). Rang a few tyre places and I may as well have been talking to the wall.

So I'm at a loss as to how to get this issue sorted. If you manage to get further than me please let me know I would appreciate it. Mine went through the NCT last time without issue, but I might not be as lucky next time.

Just try a few local mechanics or a few other tyres shops. They should know whats required. Forget Nissan dealers.

obi604

obi604 wrote: »

Hi

my rear axle is not in the best of shape. The 'rear axle side-slip/alignment test' was -17 back in 2018. Tolerance are +18 to -18, so I am right on the limit.

the rear tyres also have some uneven wear according to the last report. (outer: 2.5mm, middle: 3.0mm, inner: 3.5mm)

If I was to do the shim kit job and not replace the rear tyres for a few weeks - could the fact that the rear tyres have uneven wear upset the whole rear axle shim kit job.

or the opposite of this, If I was to install new tyres now without doing SHIM yet, would this have an adverse affect on the tyres?

KCross

obi604 wrote: »

or the opposite of this, If I was to install new tyres now without doing SHIM yet, would this have an adverse affect on the tyres?

for a few weeks, probably no.... it will just wear then unevenly but over a few hundred km's it shouldnt be noticeable.

If you are going to do a few thousand km without the shim kit you will notice it and you can rotate the tyres to counteract it.

obi604

obi604 wrote: »

Hi, old thread

I know this shim kit repair has to be done due to the NCT test and the 'rear axle side-slip/alignment test'
mine was -17 back in 2018. Tolerance are +18 to -18, so I am right on the limit.

so more than likely I need to get it done, but wont really know until the NCT test.

My question is: is it dangerous to be driving the car in the state its in (-17 result for rear axle)

I presume when it comes to NCT time that this will only have got worse.

What’s the chances of it not being an issue for the next NCT?

Orebro

Hi all,

I was in getting tyres today and the guy in the garage said he knows of a scrapped Leaf locally that is being broken for parts. Does anyone know what year Nissan resolved this issue - I don't know what year this Leaf is yet but its a 24Kwh of the same generation - if it were a 2016 or 2017 would it be worth taking the axle and fitting to mine? (Mines a late 132)

KCross

Orebro wrote: »

Hi all,

I was in getting tyres today and the guy in the garage said he knows of a scrapped Leaf locally that is being broken for parts. Does anyone know what year Nissan resolved this issue - I don't know what year this Leaf is yet but its a 24Kwh of the same generation - if it were a 2016 or 2017 would it be worth taking the axle and fitting to mine? (Mines a late 132)

Mine was a 2015 and it had the issue.

I've heard of some 2016's with it too. There doesnt seem to be a particular point where it was fixed and even when it was a problem not every car was affected so you'd be taking a chance and anyway the shim kit solution would be alot easier and cheaper to do.

obi604

Hey all, so finally got this 'shim kit' done.

Over the last few months, I mailed Nissan dealers, most hadn't a breeze what I was on about.
Prices with Nissan ranged from 235 - 500 euro. What a cod really to have such a difference.
Asked a few other tyre places etc and they just said bring it to the main dealer, not a job we do.

I got the job done today with my trusty local mechanic.
He has his own old school way of measuring the alignment (he mentioned some dunlop device) and he said it was out by 50 'minutes' before he started the work (not sure what this means)
He fitted the shim kit and tested again on his own old school device and its bang on Zero now.
based on this, he says no need for tracking, unless I really want to

Total cost 137 Euro, delighted with this cost.

quenching

obi604 wrote: »

Hey all, so finally got this 'shim kit' done.

Over the last few months, I mailed Nissan dealers, most hadn't a breeze what I was on about.
Prices with Nissan ranged from 235 - 500 euro. What a cod really to have such a difference.
Asked a few other tyre places etc and they just said bring it to the main dealer, not a job we do.

I got the job done today with my trusty local mechanic.
He has his own old school way of measuring the alignment (he mentioned some dunlop device) and he said it was out by 50 'minutes' before he started the work (not sure what this means)
He fitted the shim kit and tested again on his own old school device and its bang on Zero now.
based on this, he says no need for tracking, unless I really want to

Total cost 137 Euro, delighted with this cost.

Was this in Dublin? If so could you PM me with details of your mechanic? I’m getting the runaround from Nissan dealers too!

obi604

quenching wrote: »

Was this in Dublin? If so could you PM me with details of your mechanic? I’m getting the runaround from Nissan dealers too!

Hi. No sorry, in the west of Ireland.

Nissan dealers don’t seem to have a clue, a couple swore I needed to replace the complete Rear axle and and that the shim kit was not a proper fix.

quenching

obi604 wrote: »

Hi. No sorry, in the west of Ireland.

Nissan dealers don’t seem to have a clue, a couple swore I needed to replace the complete Rear axle and and that the shim kit was not a proper fix.

Not to worry, thanks for getting back to me. Did you buy the shim kit yourself or did your mechanic source it? If you have a part number handy I'd appreciate it, I can then point it out to the Nissan service dept, who, as you say, don't have a clue!

MorganIRL

obi604 wrote: »

Hi. No sorry, in the west of Ireland.

Nissan dealers don’t seem to have a clue, a couple swore I needed to replace the complete Rear axle and and that the shim kit was not a proper fix.

I'm in Mayo and was gonna get the nissan garage to do the shim kit while in for recall, but not getting any info back from them. Wud ur mechanic be anywhere near me to get installed?

obi604

quenching wrote: »

Not to worry, thanks for getting back to me. Did you buy the shim kit yourself or did your mechanic source it? If you have a part number handy I'd appreciate it, I can then point it out to the Nissan service dept, who, as you say, don't have a clue!

no probs.

my mechanic got it, as far as im aware, its the official Nissan kit, was 24 euro.

just a few thin plates of steel


sorry, I don't have a part number.

quenching

obi604 wrote: »

no probs.

my mechanic got it, as far as im aware, its the official Nissan kit, was 24 euro.

just a few thin plates of steel


sorry, I don't have a part number.

€24 :eek:

I’ve asked the local Nissan dealer again, let’s see what price they come up with.

obi604

quenching wrote: »

€24 :eek:

I’ve asked the local Nissan dealer again, let’s see what price they come up with.

Probably 124

NIMAN

Have you got a part number?

obi604

NIMAN wrote: »

Have you got a part number?

No I don’t have a part number.

Orebro

@obi604 - well done on getting this sorted and for such a reasonable price.

Theres a good few people on here (including me!) that would really appreciate it if you would be able to get the details on the shim kit your mechanic got - would it be a lot of hassle for you to contact him to find out? The rest of us seem to be hitting dead ends when trying to get it sorted.

obi604

Orebro wrote: »

@obi604 - well done on getting this sorted and for such a reasonable price.

Theres a good few people on here (including me!) that would really appreciate it if you would be able to get the details on the shim kit your mechanic got - would it be a lot of hassle for you to contact him to find out? The rest of us seem to be hitting dead ends when trying to get it sorted.

Ye will all have to go to my mechanic
I’ll try and contact him next week.

obi604

hi, rang my mechanic, the part he used was indeed a Nissan part and this was the part number: 430CO3NMOA

quenching

obi604 wrote: »

hi, rang my mechanic, the part he used was indeed a Nissan part and this was the part number: 430CO3NMOA

Terrific, thanks for that. Let’s see how cooperative the Nissan parts dept are now!

obi604

quenching wrote: »

Terrific, thanks for that. Let’s see how cooperative the Nissan parts dept are now!

Hopefully I got it right and didn’t mix up me zeros and ooooohhhs

Water John

If you've got it wrong, we'll be searching Mayo for you, Thanks.

obi604

Water John wrote: »

If you've got it wrong, we'll be searching Mayo for you, Thanks.

You will be a very very long time searching Mayo for me








...........cause im in Galway

NIMAN

Not getting much success searching for that.....only hit is on eBay and it does say a Shim Kit.
Then gives a Nissan Part No: 3842440F62. But not currently available.

Anyone else any luck?

Orebro

This is appearing on ebay on a package that someone is selling bolts out of, so it looks like the required kit alright - would be good to be able to see the parts too though. Link here

Edit: change all the O to zeros in the part number and it give better search results.

pete

Any recommendations for garages to get this done? Any indicative costs?

Have a service coming up so could be a good time.

edit: in the dublin region

obi604

obi604 wrote: »

Hey all, so finally got this 'shim kit' done.

Over the last few months, I mailed Nissan dealers, most hadn't a breeze what I was on about.
Prices with Nissan ranged from 235 - 500 euro. What a cod really to have such a difference.
Asked a few other tyre places etc and they just said bring it to the main dealer, not a job we do.

I got the job done today with my trusty local mechanic.
He has his own old school way of measuring the alignment (he mentioned some dunlop device) and he said it was out by 50 'minutes' before he started the work (not sure what this means)
He fitted the shim kit and tested again on his own old school device and its bang on Zero now.
based on this, he says no need for tracking, unless I really want to

Total cost 137 Euro, delighted with this cost.

Hi. So today I got 4 new tyres fitted and got the tracking done.

See attached report. I don’t really understand it, does it look ok?

FYI: The ‘rear axle side-slip/alignment test' was -17 on last NCT test back in November 2018.

The shim kit fix was done 3 weeks ago.

pete

quenching wrote: »

Terrific, thanks for that. Let’s see how cooperative the Nissan parts dept are now!

how did you get on with this?

Orebro

I priced the part with Nissan - it is only 24 euro incl VAT! Finding a place to do the job is the issue - I've phoned around 8 tyre places and none of them do it, need to try some mechanics numbers next week.

obi604

obi604 wrote: »

Hi. So today I got 4 new tyres fitted and got the tracking done.

See attached report. I don’t really understand it, does it look ok?

FYI: The ‘rear axle side-slip/alignment test' was -17 on last NCT test back in November 2018.

The shim kit fix was done 3 weeks ago.

Any comments on this post?

Tracking report here: https://ibb.co/hgn5jtx

obi604

obi604 wrote: »

Hey all, so finally got this 'shim kit' done.

Over the last few months, I mailed Nissan dealers, most hadn't a breeze what I was on about.
Prices with Nissan ranged from 235 - 500 euro. What a cod really to have such a difference.
Asked a few other tyre places etc and they just said bring it to the main dealer, not a job we do.

I got the job done today with my trusty local mechanic.
He has his own old school way of measuring the alignment (he mentioned some dunlop device) and he said it was out by 50 'minutes' before he started the work (not sure what this means)
He fitted the shim kit and tested again on his own old school device and its bang on Zero now.
based on this, he says no need for tracking, unless I really want to

Total cost 137 Euro, delighted with this cost.

To conclude on this


On the last NCT back in November 2018, The 'rear axle side-slip/alignment test' was -17 (Tolerance is +18 to -18)
Got the fix done in October 2020 by my trusty local mechanic
Finally had my NCT today and the 'rear axle side-slip/alignment test' now has a a score of -4


So all good.

peposhi

obi604 wrote: »

To conclude on this


On the last NCT back in November 2018, The 'rear axle side-slip/alignment test' was -17 (Tolerance is +18 to -18)
Got the fix done in October 2020 by my trusty local mechanic
Finally had my NCT today and the 'rear axle side-slip/alignment test' now has a a score of -4


So all good.

Do you mind PM me your mechanics details, please.
I’ve a ‘161 L30 and may well be in need to do it...

pete

i'm still looking for somewhere in the general dublin area to do this job.....