How do people smoke that sh1t?

Teddy Daniels

Deleted User wrote: »

I love people like that. They're insulated because no one they know would let them know they smoke lest they be judged. So it's all foreign to them and they don't realise their own friends and family are doing it.

That’s the thing, the successful smokers don’t tell.

Teepinaw

I haven't read the whole thread, apologies.

This drugs industry is unregulated and needs to be. And I mean the stuff that comes in sachets with branding (spice or whatever).

If you put something into your nose, stomach, bloodstream, lungs, you not only have to be conscious that you're not going to know what potency you get

BUT ALSO

The stuff could be contaminated by poo, blood, saliva, sweat.... Imagine the person packing it cut their finger and had hepatitis, HIV or whatever.

I wish someone would do something, cop on and regulate this bleedin industry, pronto.

thomasdylan

hugs_for_drugs wrote: »

Isn't psychosis and schizophrenia an underlining mental condition which is exacerbated by use of "weed" and not the true cause of the above conditions.

It's easier to blame "weed" as the cause to mental illnesses as most would admit to using/abusing it and not to more serious drug, prescription, coke, heroin, X, MDA and many other synthetic drugs.

Scaremongering isn't the answer or solution to the issue faced re abuse of all kinds of drugs.

Cannabis can exacerbate those conditions. There's also lots of evidence cannabis increases the risk of developing schizophrenia and having an episode of acute psychosis. The findings of those studies are regardless of confounding factors so I'm not sure why you're bringing up other drugs.

Scaremongering isn't the answer but neither is people burying their heads in the sand and choosing to ignore the evidence that cannabis isn't an entirely harmless drug.

Teepinaw

Teepinaw wrote: »

I haven't read the whole thread, apologies.

This drugs industry is unregulated and needs to be. And I mean the stuff that comes in sachets with branding (spice or whatever).

If you put something into your nose, stomach, bloodstream, lungs, you not only have to be conscious that you're not going to know what potency you get

BUT ALSO

The stuff could be contaminated by poo, blood, saliva, sweat.... Imagine the person packing it cut their finger and had hepatitis, HIV or whatever.

I wish someone would do something, cop on and regulate this bleedin industry, pronto.

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/24-hours-in-police-custody/on-demand/65249-015

They caught him because his blood was on the packaging.
His blood... Your lungs/cookies..

hugs_for_drugs

thomasdylan wrote: »

Cannabis can exacerbate those conditions. There's also lots of evidence cannabis increases the risk of developing schizophrenia and having an episode of acute psychosis. The findings of those studies are regardless of confounding factors so I'm not sure why you're bringing up other drugs.

Scaremongering isn't the answer but neither is people burying their heads in the sand and choosing to ignore the evidence that cannabis isn't an entirely harmless drug.

The reason I brought up other drugs is people aren't open to admit using or abusing them in comparison to "weed" in studies of effect of "weed" abuse.

People have admitted "weed" isn't harmless if abused, the the use of "weed" in moderation isn't as harmful as it's made out to be.

Maybe the link between mental issues is because no-one knows the thc strength or anything else that's in the "weed" because it's unregulated.

Poly drug abuse is rampant and only getting worse but yet the powers that be havent tried to address these issues.

thomasdylan

hugs_for_drugs wrote: »

The reason I brought up other drugs is people aren't open to admit using or abusing them in comparison to "weed" in studies of effect of "weed" abuse.

People have admitted "weed" isn't harmless if abused, the the use of "weed" in moderation isn't as harmful as it's made out to be.

Maybe the link between mental issues is because no-one knows the thc strength or anything else that's in the "weed" because it's unregulated.

Poly drug abuse is rampant and only getting worse but yet the powers that be havent tried to address these issues.

Are you discounting the studies that have shown the harmful effects of cannabis because the subjects may not have been honest about their other drug use?

The first person I replied to on this thread did say cannabis was harmless actually.

I'm not sure what you mean by poly drug use in this context and not sure what relevance it has to this discussion.

hugs_for_drugs

thomasdylan wrote: »

Are you discounting the studies that have shown the harmful effects of cannabis because the subjects may not have been honest about their other drug use?

Yes I am, and all studies I've seen have it "can" or "might" cause, not it's the cause, there is just too much variables to conclude it's the root cause and as harmful in studies if not abused.

thomasdylan wrote: »

The first person I replied to on this thread did say cannabis was harmless actually.

Fair enough, I also thought at a time it was harmless until I abused it, now I smoke less and leave weeks before I smoke a gram or two again.

thomasdylan wrote: »

I'm not sure what you mean by poly drug use in this context and not sure what relevance it has to this discussion.

What I mean is "weed" is very rarely used on its own and is used in conjunction with other drugs , alcohol, meds ,etc etc.

Greentopia

McCrack wrote: »

Ask your doctor friend what is a common feature amoungst patients history in psychiatric wards

They all have mental health issues. If you expect him to say they were all smoking reefers on the daily as the cause of their mental health problems I think you'll be disappointed.

Greentopia

Trump Is Right wrote: »

lol... oh well that's grand then. Just a bit of mild memory loss in his early 30's... as a doctor... sure what could possibly be wrong with that!? :rolleyes:

Some people's attitude to drugs in this country is far too laid back. It's not that these drugs are harmless, it's actually more a case of people not really giving a sh!t about consequences unless those consequences are some kind of immediate threat to their life or health... which is again a very clear sign of the mindset of an addict. "Sure it'll be grand like... everyone does it" (said no wise person ever!)

He has managed to finish years of medical school and gruelling medical exams to get his doctoral degree and is now going on for further study. It was his longer term memory he feels may be not quite what it was, but there can be other causes of that too. And he's the most ethical person I know. Patient safety is not being compromised I assure you. He's not practicing here FYI, he's Italian.

Greentopia

Gwynplaine wrote: »

The Doctor's brain will turn to mush. Anyone I have seen smoke that stuff, and I have seen a lot of them, all have anxiety issues, cant function properly, cant sleep, cant hold down a job or a relationship. Plus, a few of them were stinking.

Yes he's in a terrible state. Starting a new course to specialise in advanced medicine, planning on going to South America for MSF, writes plays and DJ's at reggae parties in his spare time and has a long term girlfriend. Poor guy is wreck! :rolleyes: yeah I'll get back to you when the breakdown starts :pac: