Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

MMyers

I miss the old PPV names

Royal Rumble
No Way Out
Wrestlemania
Backlash
Judgement Day
King of the Ring
Fully Loaded
Summerslam
Unforgiven
No Mercy
Survivor Series
Armageddon

SureYWouldntYa

sirmanga wrote: »

WWE held a PPV called Great Balls of Fire less than 3 years ago.

Although I'm sure I thought it was a rubbish name at the time, I must have blocked it out. What the hell was going on!?

Anything but the gimmick match named ppvs

Nothing like a match being shoehorned into a HIAC, TLC or "Extreme Rules" match because it happened to be the time of the year the ppv is scheduled

Remember when HIAC was a once a year deathly feud ender, it was pretty much once a year, 16 of them in 12 years before the PPV

I remember Great Balls of Fire fondly because of the great buildup to Joe vs Lesnar

I thought the same when I listened to STWW Armageddon episode. I was like what a great name in comparison so today's offerings.

Went along with the nu-metal style they had at the time. Can't have a show called Armageddon and Florida singing in the back round about having a fun time

leggo

Sirsok wrote: »

Yeah I thibk the creative thing and job satisfaction can't be understated, I'm sure some love the general security, like Mojo Rawley and Jinder Mahal. All though not doing anything of note but still making a fantastic wage. But someone like Dean Ambrose has an ambition to create art.

Bit like Jason Newsted, loved playing in Metallica making butt loads of cash, but had a creative itch that he needed scratched away from Metallica and he needed to fulfil that.

I made great money in the bank for years, had a very healthy job trajectory planned, but decided I needed to fulfil some dreams and aspirations, I left and it has paid off, I've never looked back despite a bit of initial financial insecurity. It's great collecting a paycheck, but better collecting it doing something you love. Austin said on tough enough , if you don't come into this business wanting to be the heavyweight champion, you shouldn't be in the business

Yeah very good post (and fair play btw). What’s good today is that wrestlers can afford to care about job satisfaction. Ten years ago when WWE and TNA were the only options for a decent full-time living, you could see it in the product even that lads were collecting paycheques and performing more afraid of doing anything wrong to get sacked than to prove a point. Now with so many avenues to work full-time, you’re not only getting a really high overall standard, but even in WWE lads are now being encouraged to take a chance because they need an edge, then you’ve got more creatively flexible places like NJPW, AEW etc. It’s a much better situation for all, us included.

Agent Coulson

No idea what he is up to these days however Wade Barrett would be a great catch for AEW if he is still interested in wrestling.

brianblaze

Agent Coulson wrote: »

No idea what he is up to these days however Wade Barrett would be a great catch for AEW if he is still interested in wrestling.

He's the new NWA commentator, he replaced Jim Cornette after he hopped in the Delorean a few weeks back

Agent Coulson

brianblaze wrote: »

He's the new NWA commentator, he replaced Jim Cornette after he hopped in the Delorean a few weeks back

Ah right a good few weeks behind on Power I'll hear him soon.

diusmr8a504cvk

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Anything but the gimmick match named ppvs

Nothing like a match being shoehorned into a HIAC, TLC or "Extreme Rules" match because it happened to be the time of the year the ppv is scheduled

Remember when HIAC was a once a year deathly feud ender, it was pretty much once a year, 16 of them in 12 years before the PPV

Always amused by wrestler X being shocked when wrestler Y challenged him to a Hell in a Cell match at the PPV of the same name. What are the chances!

B.A._Baracus

brianblaze wrote: »

Weird thought today!

You know how fans are always sad for wrestlers when they're 'not pushed enough' like EC3 or whatever and feel like they should leave and go somewhere they'll get pushed?

For me, whe I was working office jobs and all, my goal was to work as little as possible and get paid for it! These lads know what they're doing!

On a side note type of thing...
Working for WWE really is a dream job isnt it?

The RAW crew work weekends and finish up monday right?
Pssh, what did I do for the weekend? Have a few drinks, play a few games etc. Yet being in WWE you would have went out, had a match, see the world, live your life etc. Really is a dream job.

gerrybbadd

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

On a side note type of thing...
Working for WWE really is a dream job isnt it?

The RAW crew work weekends and finish up monday right?
Pssh, what did I do for the weekend? Have a few drinks, play a few games etc. Yet being in WWE you would have went out, had a match, see the world, live your life etc. Really is a dream job.

They'd be pretty much straight into the House Show loop i'd imagine?

brianblaze

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

On a side note type of thing...
Working for WWE really is a dream job isnt it?

The RAW crew work weekends and finish up monday right?
Pssh, what did I do for the weekend? Have a few drinks, play a few games etc. Yet being in WWE you would have went out, had a match, see the world, live your life etc. Really is a dream job.

5 days on the road a week, pay for your own hotel and car rental. Have to find a gym, eat right, follow company guidelines at all times, be at the airport for whatever flight they booked you on.

Drive from the house show to your hotel at least 3-4 hours normally, in the next town or half way there, or to an airport, where fans will no doubt be on you like a rash once you get there.

Get sent on tours of Europe where you share a bus for 4 days with the same people, like you're in school. Get pressured into trips to US bases/ Saudi Arabia/ press junkets all over!

It's not easy, and certainly not ideal for everyone.

B.A._Baracus

Yes, but the money is there. You get to experience a lot. You live your life. A life so many around the world would give their right nut to be in. Sure people get burned on the road in WWE but hey. It's an experience. Not to mention those years there can help you eek out a living after your contract ends.

oh and see all that wrestlers paying for hotels, cars etc. It all gets used as a business expense to lower their tax bill.

SureYWouldntYa

It's a dream for some, same as how 40 years in the civil service is a dream for some

Neither would be my dream now, but it suits some

The amount of guys down the years addicted to various narcotics tells you its not all glitz and glamour

B.A._Baracus

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

It's a dream for some, same as how 40 years in the civil service is a dream for some

Neither would be my dream now, but it suits some

The amount of guys down the years addicted to various narcotics tells you its not all glitz and glamour

WWE schedule is certainly not something you couldn't keep doing for years and years. Get so burned out.
Guess that's another reason why AEW is appealing. Money is the same but the schedule is light.

brianblaze

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

oh and see all that wrestlers paying for hotels, cars etc. It all gets used as a business expense to lower their tax bill.

That's why Foley et al, always chose the cheapest possible hotel and shared rooms?

B.A._Baracus

brianblaze wrote: »

That's why Foley et al, always chose the cheapest possible hotel and shared rooms?

It's well known Foley is just a hungary git all round.
Him and Owen Hart two of the most stingiest guys in wrestling accordingly. Owen used to take rides with fans who would be travelling show to show or just going that direction. That's next level stingiest. You saying every wrestler is like that?

But yes, you didn't know? wwe wrestlers are contractors. So you can fiddle the ol' taxes. Every hotel is a business trip. Every meal is a business expense.

Sure shawn michaels company was called hickenbottom enterprises and nash was spartan entertainment.

brianblaze

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

It's well known Foley is just a hungary git all round.
Him and Owen Hart two of the most stingiest guys in wrestling accordingly.

But yes, you didn't know? wwe wrestlers are contractors. So you can fiddle the ol' taxes. Every hotel is a business trip. Every meal is a business expense.

I'm self-employed, so I'm well aware how to write off expenses, but you still have to pony up the dough up front!

Also, a WWE contract is such a one sided agreement it makes my head spin!

Itssoeasy

brianblaze wrote: »

I'm self-employed, so I'm well aware how to write off expenses, but you still have to pony up the dough up front!

Also, a WWE contract is such a one sided agreement it makes my head spin!

For a company who's owner hates the term pro wrestler just looking at that link even in the premise part there is a lot of use of the word wrestler and this is from 2014.

brianblaze

Itssoeasy wrote: »

For a company who's owner hates the term pro wrestler just looking at that link even in the premise part there is a lot of use of the word wrestler and this is from 2014.

If he used entertainer SAG or similar would be all over him

Itssoeasy

brianblaze wrote: »

If he used entertainer SAG or similar would be all over him

Ok. I just find if funny that the term vince hates is one he has to use.

gerrybbadd

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

It's well known Foley is just a hungary git all round.
Him and Owen Hart two of the most stingiest guys in wrestling accordingly. Owen used to take rides with fans who would be travelling show to show or just going that direction. That's next level stingiest. You saying every wrestler is like that?

But yes, you didn't know? wwe wrestlers are contractors. So you can fiddle the ol' taxes. Every hotel is a business trip. Every meal is a business expense.

Sure shawn michaels company was called hickenbottom enterprises and nash was spartan entertainment.

Both guys were aware that their time in the business was limited, Owen had an exit plan to make as much as possible and become a fireman. Mick knew the toll the business had taken on his body. That's why both were frugal.

Owen didn't just take rides from fans, he would stay with them too, get them to feed him etc. Bruce Pritchard tells great stories of Owen's legendary tightness when it comes to finances

sky88

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Both guys were aware that their time in the business was limited, Owen had an exit plan to make as much as possible and become a fireman. Mick knew the toll the business had taken on his body. That's why both were frugal.

Owen didn't just take rides from fans, he would stay with them too, get them to feed him etc. Bruce Pritchard tells great stories of Owen's legendary tightness when it comes to finances

Always remember Bradshaw talking about how cheap Owen was but it was all for his way out of the business on his tribute show

brianblaze

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Both guys were aware that their time in the business was limited, Owen had an exit plan to make as much as possible and become a fireman. Mick knew the toll the business had taken on his body. That's why both were frugal.

Owen didn't just take rides from fans, he would stay with them too, get them to feed him etc. Bruce Pritchard tells great stories of Owen's legendary tightness when it comes to finances

I thought that fireman story about Owen was made up by the Road Warriors? He tried to become a firefighter in the early 90s but they wouldn't let him tour Japan and be active? His brother Keith was the one who left wrestling to become a fireman!

I don't have a weird obsessive Owen knowledge bank, but Blake Norton would endlessly talk about the Hart's when he was pretending he was tight with them back in the early IWW days

Itssoeasy

brianblaze wrote: »

I thought that fireman story about Owen was made up by the Road Warriors? He tried to become a firefighter in the early 90s but they wouldn't let him tour Japan and be active? His brother Keith was the one who left wrestling to become a fireman!

I don't have a weird obsessive Owen knowledge bank, but Blake Norton would endlessly talk about the Hart's when he was pretending he was tight with them back in the early IWW days

I can't remember when I heard the firefighter story but I remember hearing it. I don't remember the road warriors being the source either although they may have been.

Itssoeasy

Oh yeah with the royal rumble approaching I've been rewatching the old rumble matches themselves and there were some awful rumble matches in the mid to late nineties. Mill mascaras diving out of the ring to eliminate himself is still bizarre. Surely not wining the rumble didn't count as doing a job.

CastorTroy

Having watched the Hard to Kill main event, I'm wondering is Sami Callahan the most disgusting (couldn't think of a word I wanted so that was best option) wrestler on any of the main companies?

gerrybbadd

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I can't remember when I heard the firefighter story but I remember hearing it. I don't remember the road warriors being the source either although they may have been.

I've heard it numerous times down the years too. Think Pritchard may have mentioned it, and I'm sure it's on the Owen Blu Ray that came out a couple years back

Itssoeasy

gerrybbadd wrote: »

I've heard it numerous times down the years too. Think Pritchard may have mentioned it, and I'm sure it's on the Owen Blu Ray that came out a couple years back

If someone had asked me before today was it true or not I'd probably have said it was a typical wrestling yarn. By that I mean there's a bit of truth to it but there's been bits added to the back and sides of it as pro wrestlers are want to do as we know.

B.A._Baracus

brianblaze wrote: »

I thought that fireman story about Owen was made up by the Road Warriors? He tried to become a firefighter in the early 90s but they wouldn't let him tour Japan and be active? His brother Keith was the one who left wrestling to become a fireman!

I don't have a weird obsessive Owen knowledge bank, but Blake Norton would endlessly talk about the Hart's when he was pretending he was tight with them back in the early IWW days

Blake was something else, wasn't he?
Showing people cam footage of him training in the dungeon. Claiming to be the last wrestler who came out of there. Ballsack :pac: did like one training session then "embellished" (for a nicer word) his wrestling career :pac:

He wasn't the only BS'er too. lol.

sky88

Jesus booker is still n some shape

https://twitter.com/BookerT5x/status/1216890587896516608?s=20