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Sodastream

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,603 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    I noticed that my soda stream bottles have a best before date. It terrifies me a little every time filling them, how much should i pay attention to this? Is there much risk of them blowing up when filling from the big bottles like from AJ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭wassie


    I think you'll find your big bottle is past its date also, hence why its been re-purposed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Vince1974


    AJ Edge gets mentioned a good bit here. I found a website (https://www.ajedgefiresafety.ie/) but it doesn't work. Do they sell food grade CO2?


    Thanks,

    Vincent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,784 ✭✭✭54and56


    Yes I believe so, that's where I get my refills. They'll ask you whether it's for home brew or sodastream and fill accordingly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    Yes, either give them a ring or drop out

    Their main business is fire safety; from what I understand they up/re-cycle used for extinguishers by filling with CO2 and selling to home-brewers and us sodastream nyerds.

    You won't find anything about it on their website.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Yeah just park up outside and get someones attention and ask about sodastream they will sort you out. They cant really advertise it too publicly as theres always an unlikely but small possibility sodastream legal might come calling.

    Have a good look at the valve, i had a weird issue a while back that after filling one of my bottles had a small but steady leak, after a close inspection some how a tiny bit of rubber had fallen into the valve, a little of of maneuvering and i got it out but i can now see how something might get stuck and lock it too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    anyone know of any decent sugar free syrups for the SS?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Total Control


    Does anyone know where I can get a replacement pressure release valve (vent bleed). I've somehow misplaced mine and would rather not buy a whole new adapter for the sake of one screw if possible.

    From my rough measurements it seems to be an ~6.5mm thread but I can't confirm that from any sources online.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Kace


    Anyone out there got some advice / guidance re the refill process when using the normal Sodastream canister valve that has the anti-refill valve type.

    my current process is to very gently slowly open the tank valve until you can just hear the gas. Then I leave it for number of seconds, then try to open it further.

    When I open it first I can hear the canister starting to fill, but then the noise stops after 5-10 seconds and I don’t think anything more is going in, even when I open up the tank valve further.

    I am not getting more than an extra 200g of gas into the cylinder, whereas I should be getting an extra 500g.

    I am using a cold tank from outside and frozen sodastream cylinders from the freezer.


    Any tips to get this improvement in refill volume? I did buy a couple of new valves online but I didn’t fit them yet and tbh they look exactly the same type as the ones on the canister already so perhaps I bought the wrong ones 😪


    Also, is it possible to try and refill, then release the gas using release valve, disconnect from tank, then reconnect and try to continue the refill process again. Or do you need to completely empty the cylinder before attempting to start the refill process again.


    Thanks all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭wassie


    Why don't you try fitting your new valves and test them out first? Only takes a couple of minutes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,830 ✭✭✭Raoul


    I think it should be a warm tank and cold refill cylinders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Kace


    Thanks. Haven’t managed to get them off yet but will do as soon as I get access to a vice or large enough pipe wrench.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Kace


    Thanks - will try that re the warm CO2 tank and frozen cylinders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,603 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    I keep my red tank in the shed so definitely not warm at this time of year. Always fill from frozen sodastream bottles. I open a tiny bit until i hear the hiss and extremely slowly open to full over the course of about 10 seconds. You can definitely hear it filling and see the ice on bottle melting as it fills. I have had one where it locked on me , just refroze it and tried again and was grand. The sound only dies down after 20-30 seconds i'd say normally.

    Tbh i'm so terrified of the sodastream bottle blowing up i cannot wait for it to stop! As I also store logs in my shed I hold a big one in front of the bottle with one hand when filling , in my head its offering some protection. All good fun!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    My cannisters only fill to about 1080mls, empty they are about 775mls so I get around 300mls into them each fill, they are frozen and have the non anti-fill valve (ie, old style)

    I wish I kept a note of each fill, as I've no idea how much is left in the donor tank.

    Does anyone here bypass this step completely and link the large tank to the sodastream directly?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Kace


    Funny one - was at a friend’s house over Christmas, saw he had a Sodastream and told him that I would fill any empty canisters that he had.

    He proceeded to tell me that he had about 30 empty canisters!!!! He told me that he just buys a new one each time - expensive for water!!

    I took a few - all different valve types and filled them - my fills ranged from 950g to 1250, so all working well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,575 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    It's worth noting that Sodastream is an Israeli brand so for some people, refilling rather than using the Sodastream system may be preferable. For people purchasing a new system, there are other brands available.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,830 ✭✭✭Raoul


    Thanks for that.

    Anyone know if anywhere to refill in the north east?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭tandcapply


    Bought this 5L Canister with W21.8-14 written on it's outlet from A J edge:


    Any idea what adapter is needed, have the Valve below on the sodastream blue canister

    Will one of these work for it to attach to the Co2 5L?


    Or am I better off getting one of these:


    Have no problem waiting for China deliveries as have a full cylinder at present

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    The first one definitely works, AFAIK people from a while back in the thread bought and used it, never seen the second option but looks like it works too so it's personal preference. I have a similar setup linked below and like it https://www.co2supermarket.co.uk/sodastream-cylinder-refill-adapter-p520.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Ronan Skillen


    Hi. Not sure if this has come up in the Sodastream debates yet, but I was wondering what to do with empty Cylinders? I have 10 (empty) cylinders, perfectly functional, which I'd be keen to sell back for a deposit. Anyone here know where I might be able to do that ?

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭ucsie


    I recently returned them to Faerly. You pay for DPD and get 10 euro in credit for each cylinder. You can send as many as you want in one go.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    Hi folks some help needed here. I have no intention dealing with this deposit returning rubbish so I am thinking of investing in a sodastream as I do enjoy cola drinks. Good thing also 5L Water bottles appear to be exempt from the scheme.

    But I am very confused and need some advice. There seems to be several models available various prices but I cannot see any difference, bar aesthetics between them:

    https://www.currys.ie/appliances/small-kitchen-appliances/juicers-and-blenders/sodastream

    I also want to buy a model where I can buy online refilled cartridges, and also I can sell back empty ones (this seems to fit the bill as listed above - https://www.faerly.ie/pages/co2-cylinder-exchange). Are these things a bit like printers where manufacturers go out of their way to prevent refilling cartridges?

    I also notice there is a cheaper Italian made carbonator "Happy Frizz" which seems to be compatible with sodastream cartridges?


    Just wondering what is the best option to go for, cheapest and most efficient. Also where is the best place to buy the syrups (Cola, 7-Up free erc.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Question 1: Yes they all basically do the same thing so its really down to aesthetics and minor changes in functionality, some are electric and you press a switch, some are manual and you simply hold down a button or lever to release the Co2. Personally i prefer the latter and have a quite basic Sodastream as there's more control but again up to you.

    Question 2: They all do refill cartridges in some fashion BUT I and im guessing others on the thread would instead heavily recommend the DIY option and reduce the cost of refilling a cylinder to about 1 euro instead of 10-20.

    Whats required for this is you buy a donor cylinder from a place such as AJ Edge in Bray, they convert old fire extinguishers and sell them as large Co2 canisters that hold 11-12 litres, they will also refill these large canisters for you for a very reasonable price. You will also need to buy a valve to connect the sodastream bottle to the donor canister, i have this one but there's more basic and cheaper versions you can easily find on that site or Amazon, aliexpress etc. If your unsure about how all this works still there plenty of guides on youtube etc to have a watch to see if you feel up to it.

    Question 3: The Sodastream specific syrups you can usually buy in Harvey Norman and other online shops if you do a google, however Amazon dont tend to ship them here anymore. Personally ive just moved onto Robinsons etc but i still do buy tonic syrup to have as its convenient to be able to make your own.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    Some very helpful advice there, thank you. Don't think I'd be going the DIY route for refilling the canisters though. I don't mind buying refilled ones. I also don't drive, so I will need to order everything online.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,957 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I wonder if the newer manufacturers will still be around to be selling cylinders in 3-5 years time. Ask the sellers how long their contract with the manufacturer has to run.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    Thank you Andrew. Do you have a list of some of the manufacturers? Where are the cheapest cartridges to buy preferably online these days? I hope it is allowed to ask for these recommendations here.

    I suppose I could try the DIY route at some point, but I'm not too keen with the idea repressurising a high pressure cylinder. I could just envision things going bang :( :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,957 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    Right I finally bought a Sodastream (Terra model with "quick Connect" canister). Incidentally Harvey Norman wanted €140 for it, walked out and picked it up while booze shopping up North. £59 in Curry's Newry!! Anyways would people be able to confirm I need this type of adapter to refill the cylinders (it's the quick Connect Terra type):

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-Cylinder-W21-8-14-Connector-Pressure/dp/B0C6DBPB2Z/

    Also would this adapter fit the AJ Edge cylinder to refill the gas canisters, or is there anything else I would need to bear in mind?

    Lastly, is there any EU countries syrups can be bought from cheaper than here (I don't mind bulk buying). Mainly interested in diet cola, 7up, orange flavours.

    Nick



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    That adapter looks like it will work for the new quick connect system alright, the w21.8 fitting should also be exactly what you need to connect to the cylinder from AJ Edge as well.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭MickH503


    The Terra seems to be around £110 now on UK retailer sites, did you get it on sale to get it at that price? Seems to be €130+ in Irish stores :(



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    Yeah I think I just got lucky with the timing! It was £59.99 in both Argos (sold out) and Curry's. Didn't see anything to suggest it was a sale price. Here's the receipt, some difference to €140 Harvey Norman was looking for!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭MickH503


    I couldn't justify paying €130+ for the basic Sodastream machine, so ordered a "Portable Sparkling Water Maker" on TEMU for €45 (no gas included). Got a new 60L CO2 bottle in Harvey Norman for €30. Hopefully will have the machine by the end of next week!

    Thinking ahead … does anyone have recent prices from AJ Edge for purchase of a 5kg cannister and for a refill of the same 5kg cannister? Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    My refill January last year was 15 euro bought my 5kg in 2021 for 50 but that might have changed



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    I rang earlier in the week. Upfront cylinder and fill 55€, subsequent fills 15€. A cylinder will do 8-9 refills before it needs to be topped up!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭MickH503




  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    He was fairly sound and did state starting off you might only get 4/5 refills due to leakage. It is very much something you'll learn from your mistakes he was saying. I don't know much about gas cylinders or working with such so I'll probably get a lower yield starting off. One important point seems to be canisters should be frozen to prevent the CO2 burning off when refilling them.

    I'll buy another cylinder next week and won't be refilling until that is gone, so probably some time to go until then. Adaptor I bought on Amazon is coming from China so who knows when that will arrive!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭MickH503


    I ordered this adapter fitting and should receive it tomorrow. I have worked a bit with various industrial gases over the years and I think maybe the guy means there will be a minimal bit of leakage from around both sides of the adapter fitting when doing refills since it will be only hand tight? There should be no leakage from the large cylinder when it is being stored.

    My plan is to see how it goes with the first Sodastream 60L gas bottle and then probably buy a second one so that there's always one in the machine and another spare that I can fill and have ready for use.

    Thanks for all the info!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    Got my cylinder refilled in AJ Edge last week, 15 euro.

    I'd definitely getting way more than 9 refills from it, maybe it's a much larger cylinder? it lasts about 6 months, and I fill a cannister about every ten days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,957 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    At risk of repetition, it would be great if there was anyone around south Dublin doing refills at a reasonable cost.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭MickH503


    https://www.carbondioxide.ie/prices was mentioned way back in 2021. I haven't used them but I believe they are in Tallaght. I dunno how reasonable the prices are … The "head swap" mentioned is to replace the newer Soda Stream cannister quick connect valve with the older style one that supposedly is easier for home refills.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,957 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Yeah, I used them once in the past thanks, but then they bumped the price up, and it's an awkward enough place to get to during the working day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭MickH503




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,957 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Thanks yeah, that's our current best option, but I was hoping that a local refiller might be able to beat that price significantly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    in or around 20 quid, or slightly more, seems to be the going rate for a standard cannister refill/replacement

    It's a mad price given the cost of just setting yourself up to refill yourself from a large cylinder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Indeed at 15 euro for the big refill with roughly 11 runs it comes out to about 1.30 a refill. You should technically get 12 refills out of 5kg but there's always loss, sure even for the first 50 quid to purchase the big can it comes out to about 4.50 a refill for 11. And if you have 2 sodastream cannisters you just have one permanently in the freezer so you dont need to wait any time to do a refill. The DIY route just makes so much more sense economically and for simplicity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    There's one further thing I want to do to make it even easier, and just bypass the smaller cannisters. Get one of the lines to link the 5kg tank directly to the gadget itself.

    Not sure how easy it is



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭MickH503


    Did my first refill today … worked perfectly. Went from 768g (chilled) to 1215g.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭Mr. Fancypants


    I was looking at getting a Drinkmate Omnifizz. I'm not sure what type of gas cannisters they come with and what adapter i might need if i go the home filling route. Would anyone know?

    https://drinkmate-eu.com/en/collections/drinkmate-omnifizz



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    can't see it properly, but the top of the cannisters in the pics on the website look non-standard to me



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