Living well is the best revenge

Pinksandblues

Would you agree with the statement -

Living well is the best revenge

What makes people turn the other way and wallow in their self pity and carry out acts of revenge? Is it an ego thing? For control? Surely living well would be more enjoyable than having bags of built up anger to throw about.

The Rape of Lucretia

You don't see it turning up in a lot of opera plots - "Ludwig, maddened by the poisoning of his entire family, wreaks vengeance on Gunther in the third act by living well."

Spleerbun

Pinksandblues, maddened by the rape of Lucretia, seeks vengeance with Caribbean cruise.

JohnnyFlash

Revenge is great. My partner in my first business was stealing funds and doing deals on the side. Cost me about 45k in punts. My only way of settling this was revenge. I managed to ruin his next business, denegrate his name in the business community we operated in, and celebrated his untimely death at 37.

Turning the other cheek is hippy bullcrap.

Wanderer2010

I used to believe in Karma, in that if someone hurts others, makes their families lives a misery and is generally a nasty and downright horrible human being, that surely there is some cosmic imbalance being stored up for that person and they will get cancer, go bust, die horribly in a car crash or have their family hurt in some way.
But its a myth. I have seen the worst kinds of people inflict hell on others and their hearts keep beating, they still drive to work to bully and terrify their workers, they abuse kids etc etc etc all without absolutely any intervention. So this notion that people get what they deserve is a total lie BUT you have the choice to not let it eat you up and make you bitter, to hold your head up and keep going. That certainly is a choice you have control over.

jucko

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Revenge is great. My partner in my first business was stealing funds and doing deals on the side. Cost me about 45k in punts. My only way of settling this was revenge. I managed to ruin his next business, denegrate his name in the business community we operated in, and celebrated his untimely death at 37.

Turning the other cheek is hippy bullcrap.

same happened here, sortof, same results, happy days
REVENGE,

awaiting the hour of reprisal, the hours slip away......(slayer, reign in blood, pure shakes:Dphere)

biko

Living well is not as great as to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women

AllForIt

I'd agree with it if you rearrange the words.

Well, revenge is the best Living.

Amy_Amy

I hopped into bed with an older man. He ****ed me about promising me a gift. Something that never happened. He was only getting my hopes up for something more. I just cannot get over this and how he used me.

retro:electro

I don’t see the point in it personally. Exacting revenge and planning how you’ll get yours is still giving the person space in your thoughts. Much better to just leave them to it, learn from it and move on. You’re just prolonging the misery of the original situation by plotting vengeance.

Amy_Amy

I know loads of people that's bitter and they won't do anything that would improve their lives.

Marengo

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Revenge is great. My partner in my first business was stealing funds and doing deals on the side. Cost me about 45k in punts. My only way of settling this was revenge. I managed to ruin his next business, denegrate his name in the business community we operated in, and celebrated his untimely death at 37.

Turning the other cheek is hippy bullcrap.

'celebrated his untimely death at 37'

It read fine until that. Had he innocent kids? Suppose at least your honest.

jucko

no ,victory was mine, total victory.

What about nighter living well or revenge, instead just get on with it, or at a pinch saying they are dead to you now because people love to explain don't let them. The best 'revenge' is it to be nothing.

Force Carrier

Very probably it is the best revenge.
Either that or an ice pick through their eye socket.

Marengo

Force Carrier wrote: »

Very probably it is the best revenge.
Either that or an ice pick through their eye socket.

Sounds like the job Stalin had done on Trotsky, Mexico 1940!

mzungu

Amy_Amy

I had a friend who hit my dog as revenge.

arybvtcw0eolkf

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Revenge is great. My partner in my first business was stealing funds and doing deals on the side. Cost me about 45k in punts. My only way of settling this was revenge. I managed to ruin his next business, denegrate his name in the business community we operated in, and celebrated his untimely death at 37.

Turning the other cheek is hippy bullcrap.

I'm cool with that too.

I used to be terribly hot headed and couldn't settle until I got my revenge violent or otherwise. But the old I've gotten the more I'm willing to not forgive and forget but to learn a lesson and move on, and to be perfectly honest I'm less stressed and much happier now.

Autecher

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Revenge is great. My partner in my first business was stealing funds and doing deals on the side. Cost me about 45k in punts. My only way of settling this was revenge. I managed to ruin his next business, denegrate his name in the business community we operated in, and celebrated his untimely death at 37.

Turning the other cheek is hippy bullcrap.

Note to self: Never steal money from JohnnyFlash

DivingDuck

Revenge can be immediate, where living well takes time. It's speedy and cathartic, and helps people feel they've gotten closure so they can then move on and live well.

Still totally inadvisable, but you can understand why people feel the urge for it. Living well is the smarter choice if you can make it, though.

screamer

Revenge is an empty vessel, leaving those hell bent on exacting it bitter and cretinous. Life is for living, not living for revenge.

anewme

mariaalice wrote: »

What about nighter living well or revenge, instead just get on with it, or at a pinch saying they are dead to you now because people love to explain don't let them. The best 'revenge' is it to be nothing.

Very true. The opposite to love is not hate, it’s indifference.

I had a partner cheat and I went through all the stages from wanting them back to dreaming of revenge and hate scenarios. Hate and revenge thoughts destroy you and rob you of peace.

Eventually I came to the indifferent stage and then I knew I was done and was going to be ok.

paddylonglegs

I used to work with people who were constantly vengeful, about everything , with everyone . But never did anything about it.

I had to leave that job, it just got intolerable

The Rape of Lucretia

Ah yes. Niles.

Amy_Amy

paddylonglegs wrote: »

I used to work with people who were constantly vengeful, about everything , with everyone . But never did anything about it.

I had to leave that job, it just got intolerable

You'd think they would make some changes for themselves.

kowloon

biko wrote: »

Living well is not as great as to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women

That is best in life.

Rothko

Autecher wrote: »

Note to self: Never steal money from JohnnyFlash

It's ok. He's just playing a character.

The best revenge is ****ing someone over without them knowing you did it. And being extra friendly to them every day.

Your Face

Depends what they did.

CollyFlower

paddylonglegs wrote: »

I used to work with people who were constantly vengeful, about everything , with everyone . But never did anything about it.

I had to leave that job, it just got intolerable

I'm working with people like that now, I'm just waiting for an opportunity to get back at them... 'A dish served cold'..

I'm not consumed by my desire for revenge on one particular person, but I am very content in knowing that I'll exact it some day. 20 years from now? 30? I dunno.

StupidLikeAFox

DivingDuck wrote: »

Revenge can be immediate, where living well takes time. It's speedy and cathartic, and helps people feel they've gotten closure so they can then move on and live well.

Still totally inadvisable, but you can understand why people feel the urge for it. Living well is the smarter choice if you can make it, though.

You could argue the opposite. If you want revenge you may have to hold a grudge for many years waiting for an opportunity that never comes. You could put whatever wrong it was being you and start living your best life instead

Graces7

i feel sorry for spiteful folk. They truly are not happy and are as the saying goes, their own worst enemy.

Just get on with your life happily. Never give them room in your life. Takes practice but well worth it . Rather than let them drag you down to their level..

anewme

Bitterness only effects the bitter party.

Friend gave me that advice once and it’s so very true.

Nikki Sixx

I heard about a guy I briefly met before,who was bullied badly in a disadvantaged school as a teenager. The guy who was bullied went on to become a very successful business man, with his own company. One of the bullies has a very low level job now. So whenever successful guy meets the burnout bully, he stops and chats. But successful guy is sure to mention expensive stuff he has bought, amazing places he has stayed and generally what a success he has become. I found this an interesting way of getting revenge and making the former bully feel like a loser.

Collie D

I just couldn’t be arsed with holding a grudge in the unlikely hope I’d get my own back one distant day. If someone is a ****, deal with it there and then and move on. Not worth thinking about them.

OldMrBrennan83

Pinksandblues wrote: »

Would you agree with the statement -

Living well is the best revenge

What makes people turn the other way and wallow in their self pity and carry out acts of revenge? Is it an ego thing? For control? Surely living well would be more enjoyable than having bags of built up anger to throw about.

Sometimes people deserve the revenge that's carried out on them. If people are always let away with things then they'll keep doing the same things.

SirChenjin

I interpret that phrase as not dwelling on what happened, just getting on with your own life, and forgetting about the wrong that was done. Not saying it's as simple as that but holding onto the past isn't really good for your own mental health, imo.

Stovepipe

I know of at least two cases of revenge, the sins of the father were visited on the son. The father was a senior captain in an airline and was involved in training and selection and when people were being picked to move up to a bigger type of jet, he "chopped" a load of good candidates, all experienced pilots and the common denominator was that they had all originated form one particular school. After a while, the airline copped on to this, overruled his decision, and they moved up a few of the rejectees, because they had cockpit seats to fill. Time passed and his enemies waited in the long grass, looking for a chance to nail the father. His son came in, one day, as a cadetship candidate. Nice guy, good reputation, known as a good pilot, no bad habits but he was a marked man and he was rejected. Now, in this airline, having a Dad as a captain is a sure fire way of getting in, but to no avail. Every time he tried, he got rejected so he went elsewhere and got picked for the job and became a successful pilot in due course. The father was raging because he knew he'd been nobbled but he could never prove it and it was only after he retired, that someone let the truth slip out.

harry Bailey esq

Pinksandblues wrote: »

Would you agree with the statement -

Living well is the best revenge .

I dunno, vengeance is pretty good (Lenny Leonard™) could you clarify whom/what grievance needs to be avenged? I could probably give you a better answer if I were privvy to that.

anewme

Stovepipe wrote: »

I know of at least two cases of revenge, the sins of the father were visited on the son. The father was a senior captain in an airline and was involved in training and selection and when people were being picked to move up to a bigger type of jet, he "chopped" a load of good candidates, all experienced pilots and the common denominator was that they had all originated form one particular school. After a while, the airline copped on to this, overruled his decision, and they moved up a few of the rejectees, because they had cockpit seats to fill. Time passed and his enemies waited in the long grass, looking for a chance to nail the father. His son came in, one day, as a cadetship candidate. Nice guy, good reputation, known as a good pilot, no bad habits but he was a marked man and he was rejected. Now, in this airline, having a Dad as a captain is a sure fire way of getting in, but to no avail. Every time he tried, he got rejected so he went elsewhere and got picked for the job and became a successful pilot in due course. The father was raging because he knew he'd been nobbled but he could never prove it and it was only after he retired, that someone let the truth slip out.

That’s not revenge. That’s pure spitefullness. It’s also extremely unprofessional - the airline lost out on a quality candidate and nice guy because of absolutely nothing he had done. Really dislike these type of incidents.

When we were young, our Dad had a hot quick temper and would not be one to be crossed. I remember children (snobby house )telling us they were not allowed play with us because our Dad was common. That bloody stung a 10 year old.

I could say now that I’ve a better career, home and lifestyle than those children, but that would be just as bad, it was their parents who said it, not them and everyone should be judged on their own behavior, not someone else’s.

I am not my Fathers keeper.

Mad_maxx

Pinksandblues wrote: »

Would you agree with the statement -

Living well is the best revenge

What makes people turn the other way and wallow in their self pity and carry out acts of revenge? Is it an ego thing? For control? Surely living well would be more enjoyable than having bags of built up anger to throw about.

It's not a choice, many who seek revenge are entirely justified and compelled to do so, those they seek revenge against are far too often themselves excused for what they have done

Mad_maxx

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

Sometimes people deserve the revenge that's carried out on them. If people are always let away with things then they'll keep doing the same things.

Very true, the received wisdom about " letting things go" is societies way of house training people so they are pacified easy to manage citizens

Much as I despise travellers, their honour culture means you don't brush off slights

Mad_maxx

SirChenjin wrote: »

I interpret that phrase as not dwelling on what happened, just getting on with your own life, and forgetting about the wrong that was done. Not saying it's as simple as that but holding onto the past isn't really good for your own mental health, imo.

If the wrong done to you was so great and the lasting effects so profound so as to leave you marked, you don't have a choice, very few are masochists and chose pain

From workplace bullying to other areas, today's culture bends over backwards to defend the wrongdoer and condemns the victim for not " getting on with it"

It's insidious

steddyeddy

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Revenge is great. My partner in my first business was stealing funds and doing deals on the side. Cost me about 45k in punts. My only way of settling this was revenge. I managed to ruin his next business, denegrate his name in the business community we operated in, and celebrated his untimely death at 37.

Turning the other cheek is hippy bullcrap.

I'd agree largely except it sounds like your former partner denigrated his own nae due to his actions.

Kivaro

Amy_Amy wrote: »

I hopped into bed with an older man. He ****ed me about promising me a gift. Something that never happened. He was only getting my hopes up for something more. I just cannot get over this and how he used me.

Oh Amy Amy. Can't believe you fell for that one.

anewme

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Very true, the received wisdom about " letting things go" is societies way of house training people so they are pacified easy to manage citizens

Much as I despise travellers, their honour culture means you don't brush off slights.

Thats actually a very good, if extreme example of why revenge is not healthy, mentally or physically.

All of these avenge attacks over some percieved slight has seen many dead or seriously injured needlessly. Travellers have an angry violent honour culture and a hugh level of mental illness, depression and suicide.

The gangland fueds are the same. Innocentbpeople have lost their lives in these revenge attacks.

And we had decades of it in Northern Ireland.

harry Bailey esq

Amy_Amy wrote: »

I hopped into bed with an older man. He ****ed me about promising me a gift. Something that never happened. He was only getting my hopes up for something more. I just cannot get over this and how he used me.

The name johnny flash should have raised a few flags in fairness... On the other side of the coin, you've revealed yourself as someone who willingly trade sex for gifts. Pm sent.
My rich mate might be interested

Calltocall

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Revenge is great. My partner in my first business was stealing funds and doing deals on the side. Cost me about 45k in punts. My only way of settling this was revenge. I managed to ruin his next business, denegrate his name in the business community we operated in, and celebrated his untimely death at 37.

Turning the other cheek is hippy bullcrap.

That’s really fd up

Graces7

in a way, living well to get back at someone is not really living well? just another form of revenge?