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Longshot Value Aintree & Punchestown

  • 26-03-2019 7:46pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭


    Grand National

    I’ve had Valseur Lido in mind for this race all year, since re watching last year’s race and realizing how well he ran. He travelled as well as anything to the 2nd last but didn’t stay on the heavy ground with a big weight. He hasn’t looked great this year but to my eye has been gradually improving each time. His best run was in the national trial behind Rathvinden. He then went to Cheltenham for the Brown Advisory, which is never going to be far enough. He travelled well without ever being in the race and was actually beginning to stay on when a big mistake 3 out finished any small chance he had.
    He has dropped a huge 12lbs since his run in the national last year and I just can’t get it out of my head that on seeing that run last year he will surely be ready for a big run. The more I watch it the more I think you’d have to try and get him here of a good mark for a shot, given he isn’t really going to win anymore grade 1s.
    Anyway he is 100/1 with 6 places with paddy power and 100/1 5 places ¼ place with bet365, and I’d be knocking them over at those prices. In my view if he avoids carnage on the first circuit we’ll be right in the firing line 3 out and that’s all you can ask of a 100/1 Shot.

    3 Points EW NRNB 100/1 6 places paddy Power or 5 places Bet365 ¼ place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭The Jman


    He's into 66/1 now, a nice few of us must have jumped on this tip 😂


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    The Jman wrote: »
    He's into 66/1 now, a nice few of us must have jumped on this tip ��

    Yeah Paddy were the first to cave in.

    There will be another change when bet365 have the Free EW on the national as they always do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    Dubai Turf Saturday

    I Can fly nearly did it for us last year at 66/1 behind Roaring Lion, and that looks the best form here. She's had a run and is up against some possibly overrated horses here. Zero chance she goes of 12/1 more like 6s.

    2 Points win 12/1 Gen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    Took a bit of the 66/1 earlier
    Cheers Aido
    Boyles 1/4 of the odds but only 4 places


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    Friday Night Longshot
    8:15 @DundalkStadium

    Seanie
    ran a lot better last time and in this race of this mark he can get involved here with a decent draw. 4 places looks very good value

    1 Point EW 28/1 4 places VC 25/1 sky unibet boyles


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    aidankkk wrote: »
    Friday Night Longshot
    8:15 @DundalkStadium

    Seanie
    ran a lot better last time and in this race of this mark he can get involved here with a decent draw. 4 places looks very good value

    1 Point EW 28/1 4 places VC 25/1 sky unibet boyles

    Went out like a light when they made the home turn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    aidankkk wrote: »
    Grand National

    I’ve had Valseur Lido in mind for this race all year, since re watching last year’s race and realizing how well he ran. He travelled as well as anything to the 2nd last but didn’t stay on the heavy ground with a big weight. He hasn’t looked great this year but to my eye has been gradually improving each time. His best run was in the national trial behind Rathvinden. He then went to Cheltenham for the Brown Advisory, which is never going to be far enough. He travelled well without ever being in the race and was actually beginning to stay on when a big mistake 3 out finished any small chance he had.
    He has dropped a huge 12lbs since his run in the national last year and I just can’t get it out of my head that on seeing that run last year he will surely be ready for a big run. The more I watch it the more I think you’d have to try and get him here of a good mark for a shot, given he isn’t really going to win anymore grade 1s.
    Anyway he is 100/1 with 6 places with paddy power and 100/1 5 places ¼ place with bet365, and I’d be knocking them over at those prices. In my view if he avoids carnage on the first circuit we’ll be right in the firing line 3 out and that’s all you can ask of a 100/1 Shot.
    3 Points EW NRNB 100/1 6 places paddy Power or 5 places Bet365 ¼ place.


    Certainly in the race anyway. Rediculous amount of confidence that its the best 100/1 shot ive seen. Just has to beat 39 other horses jump around and avoid other fallers etc. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,812 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    aidankkk wrote: »
    Certainly in the race anyway. Rediculous amount of confidence that its the best 100/1 shot ive seen. Just has to beat 39 other horses jump around and avoid other fallers etc. :rolleyes:

    My brother has always had a soft spot for this horse. Because of that, I've watched it over the last few years and I'm very happy to follow your tip and part with a few quid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    Aintree Hurdle
    Paddy Power and Betfair made a decent error pricing this up earlier when they went 20/1 Verdana Blue. I think she has a great chance here. The ground and track will be far more to her liking and with most of the others having had a very tough race a few weeks ago she’ll outrun those odds. Even though she ran in the champion hurdle, Davy spoke after the race and said he was easy on her in that ground.
    2 Points EW 16/1 Betfair, Paddy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    @ aidankkk


    Your ante post pick for the National has been mine for quite some time. The forgotten horse. Cannot believe it has got in off 10/6. Rachel rides....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,932 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    aidankkk wrote: »
    Aintree Hurdle
    Paddy Power and Betfair made a decent error pricing this up earlier when they went 20/1 Verdana Blue. I think she has a great chance here. The ground and track will be far more to her liking and with most of the others having had a very tough race a few weeks ago she’ll outrun those odds. Even though she ran in the champion hurdle, Davy spoke after the race and said he was easy on her in that ground.
    2 Points EW 16/1 Betfair, Paddy
    Yes, yes, yes! This is the best bet of the Aintree festival. After everything finished in an absolute heap at Cheltenham, Verdana Blue should be much shorter on a track with conditions that will suit it perfectly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭cruais


    Yes, yes, yes! This is the best bet of the Aintree festival. After everything finished in an absolute heap at Cheltenham, Verdana Blue should be much shorter on a track with conditions that will suit it perfectly.

    Is this 1525 on 4th? I can't find it at all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,388 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    cruais wrote: »
    Is this 1525 on 4th? I can't find it at all!

    on pp it's moved from future to meeting and then Thursday, strange as they only have two races moved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭cruais


    on pp it's moved from future to meeting and then Thursday, strange as they only have two races moved

    Thank you! Just got it! Was driving me crazy trying to find it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    4:05 Aintree

    Some of Coastal Tiep’s form stands out here for a horse priced up at 66/1. I’d be hopeful that this trip will suit him and if he can improve on his decent run last time out he could be a factor here. He is only 7 and on ratings alone he shouldn’t be too far away.

    1 Point EW 66/1 5 places paddy/lads

    Lads actually boosted it to 80/1:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭cruais


    aidankkk wrote: »
    4:05 Aintree

    Some of Coastal Tiep’s form stands out here for a horse priced up at 66/1. I’d be hopeful that this trip will suit him and if he can improve on his decent run last time out he could be a factor here. He is only 7 and on ratings alone he shouldn’t be too far away.

    1 Point EW 66/1 5 places paddy/lads

    Lads actually boosted it to 80/1:eek:

    Great shout! Finally a few bob in the kitty for today!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭The Jman


    I love how my gambling life goes, back a loser in the first four races and then Aidan comes to my rescue with an 80/1 place!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    20e e/w on Valseur Lido @100s
    In Aidan we trust


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭akelly02


    Is the soft ground against him lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    akelly02 wrote: »
    Is the soft ground against him lads

    Soft will be fine, but heavy wouldn't be great id imagine


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    4:05 Aintree

    BigMartre
    strikes me as the kind of horse that could be well suited to this race. He is a prominent racer who could get into a rhythm near the front and be involved in the finish. If he can get back to last year’s form 40/1 should look big
    1 Point EW 40/1 sky/lads/paddy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    1:45 Aintree

    Going with two 33/1 shots here with soft ground form running of a good mark. Mount Mews has been a disappointment over fences but is better than a 137 rated hurdler and could recover form here. Point of Principle looks interesting with a 7lbs claimer on today. The Stable are in form, and he has some form as a novice that give us hope at a big price.

    1 Point EW Mount Mews 6places sky 5 elsewhere
    1 point EW Point of Principle 6places sky 5 elsewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 premierloco


    Will Hill paying 7 places on 1.45pm so might be worth using them for Point of Principle bet as tis 33/1 with them. Mount Mews only 22/1 with them though.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Mig


    Unlucky Aido


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭Daraa


    aidankkk wrote: »
    1:45 Aintree

    Going with two 33/1 shots here with soft ground form running of a good mark. Mount Mews has been a disappointment over fences but is better than a 137 rated hurdler and could recover form here. Point of Principle looks interesting with a 7lbs claimer on today. The Stable are in form, and he has some form as a novice that give us hope at a big price.

    1 Point EW Mount Mews 6places sky 5 elsewhere
    1 point EW Point of Principle 6places sky 5 elsewhere


    Jayus. So close for PoP. Great picking!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    1:45 Aintree

    Burbank
    looks a typical Aintree horse. He has had a very light season, and in both runs showed some encouraging signs. He has looked like a step up in trip will suit and a return to form puts him a fair few pounds well in here.

    1 Point EW 28/1 5 places Lads 25/1 elsewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    aidankkk wrote: »
    1:45 Aintree

    Burbank
    looks a typical Aintree horse. He has had a very light season, and in both runs showed some encouraging signs. He has looked like a step up in trip will suit and a return to form puts him a fair few pounds well in here.

    1 Point EW 28/1 5 places Lads 25/1 elsewhere

    Thanks.
    Skybet paying 6 places by the looks of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    4:20
    Some Buckle
    sticks out here after a reasonable run at Cheltenham after a long break. He is well able to get competitive of this mark and if he is on a going day 50/1 is going to look big.
    1 Point EW 50/1 5 places paddy/betfair


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Any joy with the podcast?
    Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    Rochey18 wrote: »
    Any joy with the podcast?
    Cheers

    No The Host lives in Melbourne, and we couldn't get it together midweek with the time difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    Grand National

    The Bet365 offer is just too good to ignore, Here are my 2 picks in addition to Valseur Lido already advised. 8 Points Total Spend with 4 Points Returned

    Monbeg Notorius, has a nice profile for this. He’s a young horse that’s a sure stayer and has had a light season.
    • 2 Points EW 66/1 365 5 places
    Minella Rocco, is on a decent mark has surly been readied for this for a long time, and we’ll all be kicking ourselves if he runs a big race
    2 Points EW 40/1 365 5 places


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭madmoose


    V Lido is 80/1 7 places one firm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    madmoose wrote: »
    V Lido is 80/1 7 places one firm

    I’ve ya haven’t used yer bet365 offer you could get €65 ew at 90/1 with 10 places. Don’t think I can setup a new account for my wife and get that offer thought ;-).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    Aintree 6:20
    All Set to go
    ran well in this last year of a higher mark. He has actually won 3 races since (2 of those chases), and is still2 lbs lower. He will be better suited by the reasonably ground today and 66/1 seems very big.
    1 Point EW 66/1 5 places lads/vc/sky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭Plasandrunt


    backed him myself this morning price seems absolutely massive


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    aidankkk wrote: »
    1:45 Aintree

    Burbank
    looks a typical Aintree horse. He has had a very light season, and in both runs showed some encouraging signs. He has looked like a step up in trip will suit and a return to form puts him a fair few pounds well in here.

    1 Point EW 28/1 5 places Lads 25/1 elsewhere

    Jockey should get a medal there. Bullied him into 4th


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭akelly02


    Well Aidan , confidence must be high still after getting decent ground , I’m actually nervous even tho I’ve only peanuts on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    akelly02 wrote: »
    Well Aidan , confidence must be high still after getting decent ground , I’m actually nervous even tho I’ve only peanuts on.

    Almost no one outside here seems to be backing him . Not that that matters . Delighted with ground . Big thing is to avoid falling the first half dozen fences when it’s mental.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭akelly02


    aidankkk wrote: »
    Almost no one outside here seems to be backing him . Not that that matters . Delighted with ground . Big thing is to avoid falling the first half dozen fences when it’s mental.



    Well best of luck , de Bromhead with a winner is no bad sign either .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭handsfree2


    akelly02 wrote: »
    Well best of luck , de Bromhead with a winner is no bad sign either .

    And a good second place yesterday with sub lieutenant yesterday.

    I went all in on Valseur too.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    handsfree2 wrote: »
    And a good second place yesterday with sub lieutenant yesterday.

    I went all in on Valseur too.

    Valseur, monbeg and minella jury duty and blow by blow here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    Valseur Lido and Noble endeavor for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Blud


    What's an acceptable waiting period before we can all give Aidan abuse?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭hudhastings


    shut up Blud if your not in you cannot win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    Blud wrote: »
    What's an acceptable waiting period before we can all give Aidan abuse?


    At least allow his 6.20 selection to come in before saying anything :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Blud


    shut up Blud if your not in you cannot win.

    Humour bypass!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭WicklowBrave


    R u mad blud


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭akelly02


    aidankkk wrote: »
    Aintree 6:20
    All Set to go
    ran well in this last year of a higher mark. He has actually won 3 races since (2 of those chases), and is still2 lbs lower. He will be better suited by the reasonably ground today and 66/1 seems very big.
    1 Point EW 66/1 5 places lads/vc/sky



    Are lads definitely 5 places?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    aidankkk wrote: »
    I’ve ya haven’t used yer bet365 offer you could get €65 ew at 90/1 with 10 places. Don’t think I can setup a new account for my wife and get that offer thought ;-).

    I only had 45/1 Thanks aidan:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Whiplash85


    Did people get refunded from B365 yet?


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