He works in mysterious ways...

Deebles McBeebles

A school in Newbridge, Kildare has written to parents to apologise after an incident where a number of students received burns on their foreheads when being given blessed ashes last week for Ash Wednesday.
The priest who administered the ashes separately wrote to them explaining that it “remains somewhat of a mystery as to why or how this happened”, as he also apologised.

https://www.thejournal.ie/newbridge-ash-burns-4541116-Mar2019/

A punishment for their sins or the work of a diabhail?

Effects

Nah. It's only a mystery to the priest because he believes in BS rather than science. Probably can't even use a computer.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26478900

Deebles McBeebles

Stupid science, always with the answers.

I had hoped Kildare was about to see a plague of locusts or some frog rain.

Circuital

Effects wrote: »

Nah. It's only a mystery to the priest because he believes in BS rather than science. Probably can't even use a computer.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26478900

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Stupid science, always with the answers.

I had hoped Kildare was about to see a plague of locusts or some frog rain.

So edgy. Down with religion.

Oh wait. What's this?

After people complained of "a burning sensation", the priests brought samples of the ashes for scientific testing to find out what had happened.

It's almost like you can have faith in an ideology AND seek scientific evidence.

98q76e12hrflnk

Circuital wrote: »

So edgy. Down with religion.

Oh wait. What's this?



It's almost like you can have faith in an ideology AND seek scientific evidence.

hahahaha BURRRRRRRRN!!

tayto lover

The ashes were blessed with fire and brimstone.

razorblunt

Almost all of the kids were called Damien, except for two, one was called Donald and the other, John Waters.

Am I imagining this or did I read this story - or one exactly like it - a few years ago?

Has it actually happened again? Or was an old story mistakenly regurgitated?

EDIT: Ah I see "Effects" above already beat me to it - with his link from 2014.

jim o doom

Circuital wrote: »

It's almost like you can have faith in an ideology AND seek scientific evidence.

It's almost like you can have an unscientific belief in a pile unproven nonsense, and also need to seek scientifict evidence to protect yourself from potential litigation.. the aul courts aren't too hot on the JEBUS DID IT defense.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Edgy and radical stuff here today. With the 2019 anti Catholicism.

punisher5112

Did he place them in a microwave before applying?

Hector Savage

Actually I see NO ONE with ashes on their forehead over the last few years, it's good to see, when I was a kid you would see it a lot on ash wednesday

Hector Savage

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Edgy and radical stuff here today. With the 2019 anti Catholicism.

Indeed, allthough I am no Catholic supporter I find it appears to be the last religion you can slag off and not be labeled a "bigot" ...

Deebles McBeebles

Circuital wrote: »

So edgy. Down with religion.

Oh wait. What's this?



It's almost like you can have faith in an ideology AND seek scientific evidence.

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Edgy and radical stuff here today. With the 2019 anti Catholicism.

Jesus lads, any sense of humour at all or does your Godly work sap all sense of joy from your lives?

Article was posted in jest, not as a way to take down the Catholic church. Cop on.

Zorya

How I loved that big ashy cross on the forehead when I was a child. Made me feel like some medieval mendicant, super holy or something. Eye of Shiva style. It's very Gothic. I used to make my own ashen mix for use later in the day when the first one wore off. Though I would keep my head quite still and allow no hugs or kisses or close contact of any sort in case people rubbed it off too soon. That cold detachment from other people made me feel even holier.

beertons

Of the person who applied the ashes, did their fingers fall off?

jim o doom

How is being anti-religion or athiest "edgy" in this day and age? It's been a fairly large movement for quite a while.

Many people in Ireland have grown to hate the church for the specific atrocities they are responsible for here and abroad. Clearly it's not a small number of young edgelords..

and yet I still see a folk responding "edgy" when any sort of anti-relgious sentiment is being espoused.

I guess that's the best they can come up and they think it's clever, akin to a "your ma" reply to any sort of insult.. but about religion.

Tacklebox

If I walked through the archway of a church I'd burn to a crisp...

I'd hovel in standing in a metal bucket, then there wouldn't be much left to sweep up....

kneemos

Hector Savage wrote: »

Indeed, allthough I am no Catholic supporter I find it appears to be the last religion you can slag off and not be labeled a "bigot" ...

The Prods get a slaggin.
The Jews. Usually by other Jews though,not sure how it would go otherwise.
Islam is constantly berated,and the followers called all sorts.
The more obscure stuff like the Mormons or Scientologists get it in the neck.

Can't think of any more off hand.

jimgoose

kneemos wrote: »

The Prods get a slaggin...

That's what you get when you keep toasters in cupboards, I mean come on...

Zorya

jimgoose wrote: »

That's what you get when you keep toasters in cupboards, I mean come on...

Ahem, Mr Goose, I seem to recall on the Eyebrows thread that you called Mrs Goose a 'Toaster' this morning...do you have something you need to tell us?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Edgy and radical stuff here today. With the 2019 anti Catholicism.

It's like Jews bashing on Jews.

Anyone who was Confirmed is a Catholic for life.

aaronjumper

You're supposed to wait for the ashes to cool down.

Berserker

jimgoose wrote: »

That's what you get when you keep toasters in cupboards, I mean come on...

Where else would you store one?

aaronjumper wrote: »

You're supposed to wait for the ashes to cool down.

Serious question. Are they actually warm when you receive them? I would have thought that they were cold. Any idea where they get them from? It's not just ashes from a fire out the back, I'm guessing.

Dr Strange

Berserker wrote: »

...Any idea where they get them from? It's not just ashes from a fire out the back, I'm guessing.

Burned palm leaves. From palms blessed the previous year's Palm Sunday.

Here's more on it: http://time.com/4685462/ash-wednesday-ashes-lent-easter/

aaronjumper

Berserker wrote: »

Serious question. Are they actually warm when you receive them?
I would have thought that they were cold.
Any idea where they get them from? It's not just ashes from a fire out the back, I'm guessing.

As far as I remember they're cold, I was just being an arse.
According to the article they burn tree leaves to get them.

kneemos

Dr Strange wrote: »

Burned palm leaves. From palms blessed the previous year's Palm Sunday.

Here's more on it: http://time.com/4685462/ash-wednesday-ashes-lent-easter/

A HA! They're blessed ashes.

Makes them better.

Effects

Circuital wrote: »

So edgy. Down with religion.

You sound like one of those self loathing hipsters who thinks it's cool to hate on people who don't like religion.

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Anyone who was Confirmed is a Catholic for life.

Nah, there was a window where you could leave. They closed it about ten years ago.

punisher5112

Maybe they were all on the devil's side.

kneemos

Effects wrote: »

You sound like one of those self loathing hipsters who thinks it's cool to hate on people who don't like religion.



Nah, there was a window where you could leave. They closed it about ten years ago.

How does GDPR relate to their collection of data?

Effects

kneemos wrote: »

How does GDPR relate to their collection of data?

Not sure, but I heard something on RTE one where a parent has stopped a school from having kids illustrating their sins in school work art for reasons of breaching GDPR and breaking the seal of confession.

Berserker

Effects wrote: »

Not sure, but I heard something on RTE one where a parent has stopped a school from having kids illustrating their sins in school work art for reasons of breaching GDPR and breaking the seal of confession.

How do you illustrate sins in art?

FishOnABike

Dr Strange wrote: »

Burned palm leaves. From palms blessed the previous year's Palm Sunday.

Here's more on it: http://time.com/4685462/ash-wednesday-ashes-lent-easter/

Hasn't this happened before? How soon before the clergy have to be issued with pH meters and comply with an ISO manufacturing quality standard to produce these ashes or otherwise risk their church being sued for failing to take reasonable precautions against a foreseeable risk?

Samuel Vimes

Only a matter of time before school is sued by a parent over this.

Effects

Berserker wrote: »

How do you illustrate sins in art?

Draw pictures of you hitting your brother, draw a picture of you and your mother with a speach bubble saying "fućk off", etc. etc.

Effects

Samuel Vimes wrote: »

Only a matter of time before school is sued by a parent over this.

Technically you'd have to sue God himself.

Hobosan

Effects wrote: »

Technically you'd have to sue God himself.

"I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God".

I see a major conflict of interest here.

FishOnABike

Hobosan wrote: »

"I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God".

I see a major conflict of interest here.

You can always make a nonreligious affirmation instead of swearing an oath on a religious book.

lbc2019

FishOnABike wrote: »

You can always make a nonreligious affirmation instead of swearing an oath on a religious book.

I made a non religious affirmation when I had to be sworn in in court.

Hobosan

FishOnABike wrote: »

You can always make a nonreligious affirmation instead of swearing an oath on a religious book.

Also, you'd want to be careful not to swear on any Hindu holy book, lest you end up accidently suing yourself in the process.

Pherekydes

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It's like Jews bashing on Jews.

Anyone who was Confirmed is a Catholic for life.

The census says otherwise.

I was confirmed at 9. Definitely not a catholic now.

Being a catholic is about what you believe. Say the creed; how many of its statements do you agree with?

Me, none.

The Satanist

Fukc ya'll

Littlehorny

Ashes, water and incence (in other words fancy smoke). Has anyone else ever noticed that the church only uses props to put on its show that cost practically nothing?

TheValeyard

Littlehorny wrote: »

Ashes, water and incence (in other words fancy smoke). Has anyone else ever noticed that the church only uses props to put on its show that cost practically nothing?

Only nowadays. For a long time there were dedicated trade routes for incense so valued was it for rituals, from Egyptian times right up to today. Part of the old great silk road.

kneemos

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Only nowadays. For a long time there were dedicated trade routes for incense so valued was it for rituals, from Egyptian times right up to today. Part of the old great silk road.

Love church incense.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Effects wrote: »

You sound like one of those self loathing hipsters who thinks it's cool to hate on people who don't like religion.



Nah, there was a window where you could leave. They closed it about ten years ago.

A symbolic gesture ,'count me out' or not me.ie.

Nobody leaves the Catholic Church.


A full made Confirmed member is a soldier of Christ for life.

Pherekydes

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

A full made Confirmed member is a soldier of Christ for life.

Today's my confirmation anniversary! Tell JC I've deserted. I'm not his sandbag any longer.

Twenty Grand

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

A school in Newbridge, Kildare has written to parents to apologise after an incident where a number of students received burns on their foreheads when being given blessed ashes last week for Ash Wednesday.
The priest who administered the ashes separately wrote to them explaining that it “remains somewhat of a mystery as to why or how this happened”, as he also apologised.

https://www.thejournal.ie/newbridge-ash-burns-4541116-Mar2019/

A punishment for their sins or the work of a diabhail?

Not the first time it happened.

Some children got burns in Drogheda about 10 years ago iirc.

Effects

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

A symbolic gesture ,'count me out' or not me.ie.

Nobody leaves the Catholic Church.


A full made Confirmed member is a soldier of Christ for life.

Nah. I left and have confirmation from Catholic Church that I’m no longer a member. It took a while though.
They don’t let people leave anymore though.

Widdershins

Irish bindi

kneemos

Effects wrote: »

Not sure, but I heard something on RTE one where a parent has stopped a school from having kids illustrating their sins in school work art for reasons of breaching GDPR and breaking the seal of confession.

This article is long drawn out,the relevant bits are at the end.
It's being investigated apparently and legal advice sought regarding church records and GDPR.
There's a debate around historical records and the right to be forgotten.

https://goosed.ie/leaving-catholic-church-using-gdpr/