Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

km79

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Totally disagree. Johno burned all his bridges the last time.

In my opinion what is needed on the sideline is someone like Rochie or Solan, someone for the analytical stuff who can dovetail with Horan, Burke and McD Horan can be a little naive at times when it comes to that very top level.

I’ve said it before I’ll say it again
I’d LOVE to see rochford in as a coach
However , I’m not sure Horan is a man he could work with as he doesn’t seem to listen to anyone ......

washman3

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Brolly if he isn't careful will end up going down the Ewan McKenna road of outlandish nonsense.

As a neutral looking from the outside in, the article is spot on.
No point in burying heads in the sand and pretending otherwise.
Time to call a spade a spade.!!

wirelessdude01

washman3 wrote: »

As a neutral looking from the outside in, the article is spot on.
No point in burying heads in the sand and pretending otherwise.
Time to call a spade a spade.!!

Okay I'll bite. Explain the celebrity thing, also the egos? Evidence of same to back your opinion would be needed as well.

km79

A neutral
Sure
Go back under the bridge you have been hiding under

happyoutscan

washman3 wrote: »

As a neutral looking from the outside in, the article is spot on.
No point in burying heads in the sand and pretending otherwise.
Time to call a spade a spade.!!

And you're from what county?

12gauge dave

Joe brolly is not too far wrong.

Blackjack

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Okay I'll bite. Explain the celebrity thing, also the egos? Evidence of same to back your opinion would be needed as well.

Doubt you’ll get any meaningful reply.

km79

They are all out now
Quelle suprise

Imagine your whole season basically coming down to hoping Mayo lose an AI so you can troll an Internet forum
What an exciting life

km79

http://twitter.com/MalachyClerkin/status/1340730689583521792

We dont make life easy for ourselves

washman3

washman3 wrote: »

As a neutral looking from the outside in, the article is spot on.
No point in burying heads in the sand and pretending otherwise.
Time to call a spade a spade.!!

Time to call a troll a troll more like.

13 of the 26 from 2017 weren’t involved, only 3 years later. So much for player power. And that’s only a start on the bs from brolly

dobman88

I think for the first time ever yesterday I felt genuine emotion for another countys player. That photo of Adian walking down the tunnel while a dub lifts the cup is a cruel, cruel photo and youd really feel for him. What is he? About 30? Has time left but a lot of mileage put up, cant be easy to keep going year after year but I'd love to see him get over the line before he is done.

Who is likely to retire for Mayo from this group?

rolling boh

I would think Mayo have real prospects in the next year or two unless Kerry get their act together big time Dublin are not quite as good and some players wiil go the Mayo team of a couple of years ago would almost certainly have beaten us last night .

wirelessdude01

dobman88 wrote: »

Who is likely to retire for Mayo from this group?

I can see Vaughan, Seamie, Tom, Zippy and Boyler definitely gone. Chris and Clarke could be touch and go.

seligehgit

dobman88 wrote: »

I think for the first time ever yesterday I felt genuine emotion for another countys player. That photo of Adian walking down the tunnel while a dub lifts the cup is a cruel, cruel photo and youd really feel for him. What is he? About 30? Has time left but a lot of mileage put up, cant be easy to keep going year after year but I'd love to see him get over the line before he is done.

Who is likely to retire for Mayo from this group?

It was a genuinely heartbreaking photo.

The pain etched on his face like a picasso.

Possible retirees

Keith Higgins
Colm Boyle
Chris Barrett
Seamus O Shea if he's not officially retired already
Tom Parsons
Donald Vaughan has a few years on the others
And of course David Clarke is a possibility

But who knows?

The winter is short this year but I think it's very telling how little game time these stalwarts were afforded by James Horan this year.

The torch has passed.

seligehgit

seligehgit wrote: »

It was a genuinely heartbreaking photo.

The pain etched on his face like a picasso.

Possible retirees

Keith Higgins
Colm Boyle
Chris Barrett
Seamus O Shea if he's not officially retired already
Tom Parsons
Donald Vaughan has a few years on the others
And of course David Clarke is a possibility

But who knows?

The winter is short this year but I think it's very telling how little game time these stalwarts were afforded by James Horan this year.

The torch has passed.

I think for many of those the decision won’t be theirs. Barrett is the only one who would be a guaranteed starter next year. We really need to start looking at the next generation of keepers also. When the press on the kick outs came from Dublin in the last 15, a keeper who can boom it to the opposition 65 would make them think twice. Hennelly’s chance has passed also

wirelessdude01

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think for many of those the decision won’t be theirs. Barrett is the only one who would be a guaranteed starter next year. We really need to start looking at the next generation of keepers also. When the press on the kick outs came from Dublin in the last 15, a keeper who can boom it to the opposition 65 would make them think twice. Hennelly’s chance has passed also

I agree re the keeper situation. Think Clarke will be asked to do another year with a view to bringing Colm Reape up to speed. Depending on how Reape gets on he could replace Clarke in first 15 and Clarke provides cover. Realistically we need to be carrying 2/3 new keepers in the extended squad next year with an eye on the future.

jay1988

This stuff about the Senior players having Rochford removed, are people sure there's nothing in that? It's a rumour i've heard from a few different places and has been reported a few times that he had a players revolt to handle? Surely this wouldn't have spread so much if there was nothing in it?

On yesterdays game, Mayo were a tad unlucky, losing Durcan is huge, he's the one player in the country i think could walk into the Dublin team easily and improve them even more, a massive loss and a hard one to overcome, especially when he's marking Kilkenny.

From the outside looking in, it seems like Brolly may have a point on some of them (even though he's an arse) especially Aidan O'Shea, no scores in how many AI finals now? It's not good enough from a supposed top player.

seligehgit

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

I agree re the keeper situation. Think Clarke will be asked to do another year with a view to bringing Colm Reape up to speed. Depending on how Reape gets on he could replace Clarke in first 15 and Clarke provides cover. Realistically we need to be carrying 2/3 new keepers in the extended squad next year with an eye on the future.

Reape most certainly has to come in either to start or under Clarke's tutelage but preferably to start.

Matthew Flanagan or Conor O Malley are other options.

I'd like to see Peter Naughton get an opportunity to truly prove his worth.

How many more years has Kevin Mc got?

TBF he keeps himself in tip top condition.

Doctors room ghost

dobman88 wrote: »

I think for the first time ever yesterday I felt genuine emotion for another countys player. That photo of Adian walking down the tunnel while a dub lifts the cup is a cruel, cruel photo and youd really feel for him. What is he? About 30? Has time left but a lot of mileage put up, cant be easy to keep going year after year but I'd love to see him get over the line before he is done.

Who is likely to retire for Mayo from this group?

Whatever about aos, Andy Moran was a player i would have liked to see with an all Ireland medal before he retired.The photo of himself and his daughter sitting on the pitch following an all Ireland loss was a sad one.
He was one of the mayo greats.

wirelessdude01

seligehgit wrote: »

Reape most certainly has to come in either to start or under Clarke's tutelage but preferably to start.

Matthew Flanagan or Conor O Malley are other options.

I'd like to see Peter Naughton get an opportunity to truly prove his worth.

How many more years has Kevin Mc got?

TBF he keeps himself in tip top condition.

Will Naughton switch back from Sligo?

With regards to O'Malley, we haven't had much success really with getting former soccer players to integrate. Schlingerman, while being on the panel last year as a keeper couldn't force his way into the Kiltimagh team and think he played as a wing forward for the club.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Mayo can't win. Before the game they might as well not have bothered showing up. Now they bottled it!

If they ever win, people will find all sorts of reasons why it wasn't earned.

jay1988

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

Mayo can't win. Before the game they might as well not have bothered showing up. Now they bottled it!

If they ever win, people will find all sorts of reasons why it wasn't earned.

Kind of like what people are doing with Dublin now?

threeball

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Brolly if he isn't careful will end up going down the Ewan McKenna road of outlandish nonsense.

Brolly is a hypocritical flute. One minute he's railing against the unsustainable move towards professionalism in the sport and that club should come before all. In the next breath hes wants everyone to be like Dublin. He either doesn't even think through his own thoughts or else he just likes hitting an easy target to make himself feel superior. He's a pitiful little man really.

TCDStudent1

km79 wrote: »

I’ve said it before I’ll say it again
I’d LOVE to see rochford in as a coach
However , I’m not sure Horan is a man he could work with as he doesn’t seem to listen to anyone ......

What makes you think that?

PressRun

I'd say anyone who wasn't making the match day squad this year will probably leave. Vaughan will go, I'd say. Think Seamus O'Shea will too. Maybe Boyler. Not sure about Higgins. Think David Clarke will stay another year or will at least be asked to until there is another option ready to take over the keeper role.

On the plus side, I would welcome the return of Jason Doherty and hopefully he will be available next year. Don't think we'll be seeing Brendan Harrison again for a long while yet unfortunately. His injury problems have lingered and he still isn't really that close to recovery, afaik. He's quite a while out of action now.

Does anyone know when the first games are starting next year?

TCDStudent1

seligehgit wrote: »

It was a genuinely heartbreaking photo.

The pain etched on his face like a picasso.

Possible retirees

Keith Higgins
Colm Boyle
Chris Barrett
Seamus O Shea if he's not officially retired already
Tom Parsons
Donald Vaughan has a few years on the others
And of course David Clarke is a possibility

But who knows?

The winter is short this year but I think it's very telling how little game time these stalwarts were afforded by James Horan this year.

The torch has passed.

What was the deal with Vaughan this year? Was he injured? Didnt seem to make many match day squads?

wirelessdude01

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

What makes you think that?

It's well known. I'm friendly with someone who was/is part of the backroom team but with no input into selection and they'd openly say that Horan is his own man. What he says goes and no discussion. Very different under Rochie where McEntee had a voice that was heard and listened to.

wirelessdude01

PressRun wrote: »

I'd say anyone who wasn't making the match day squad this year will probably leave. Vaughan will go, I'd say. Think Seamus O'Shea will too. Maybe Boyler. Not sure about Higgins. Think David Clarke will stay another year or will at least be asked to until there is another option ready to take over the keeper role.

On the plus side, I would welcome the return of Jason Doherty and hopefully he will be available next year. Don't think we'll be seeing Brendan Harrison again for a long while yet unfortunately. His injury problems have lingered and he still isn't really that close to recovery, afaik. He's quite a while out of action now.

Does anyone know when the first games are starting next year?

I met Harry's uncle on holidays last summer. He was telling me how he was basically strapped together even then. His body isn't able for IC and also doubt he will even be able for proper club action anymore. Couple of young kids as well as a job that requires him to have a functioning body.

Think league starts towards the end of Feb. As it stands they are allowed back training on January the 15th.

PressRun

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

I met Harry's uncle on holidays last summer. He was telling me how he was basically strapped together even then. His body isn't able for IC and also doubt he will even be able for proper club action anymore. Couple of young kids as well as a job that requires him to have a functioning body.

Think league starts towards the end of Feb. As it stands they are allowed back training on January the 15th.

Real shame on Harry. Thought he was a great find for us.

RedDevil55

PressRun wrote: »

I'd say anyone who wasn't making the match day squad this year will probably leave. Vaughan will go, I'd say. Think Seamus O'Shea will too. Maybe Boyler. Not sure about Higgins. Think David Clarke will stay another year or will at least be asked to until there is another option ready to take over the keeper role.

On the plus side, I would welcome the return of Jason Doherty and hopefully he will be available next year. Don't think we'll be seeing Brendan Harrison again for a long while yet unfortunately. His injury problems have lingered and he still isn't really that close to recovery, afaik. He's quite a while out of action now.

Does anyone know when the first games are starting next year?

It'll be hard for Jason Doherty to play next year with the all Ireland final in mid July. He only did the cruciate in October. What's the story with Harrison? Picked up some kind of a knee injury back in the summer but no official word since.

I've a feeling Barrett will retire. The fact he transferred to clontarf this year would indicate he's winding down.