Hot take: Multiculturalism is good

Danzy

Multiculturalism is a product of neoliberalism in the modern era or imperialism in previous periods.

In the modern West, neoliberalism and multiculturalism will rise or fall together.

Danzy

sk8erboii wrote: »

Im a normal guy. I come to afterhours to give a bit of realness to the forum. Its too full of old men and peoppe who browse 4chan too much.

Its funny how you say its ‘autism’ when its really just a functioning member of society with formal education speaking to mostly bitter old men.

But you know, keep the insults coming i guess. Ill cry over it with my friends and girlfriend at the bar later.

Your Lordship is protesting too much.

To be honest it depends on the culture. People from south america tend to be very friendly and easy to talk to, chinese people are incredibly hard working, people from europe integrate very easily, but people from muslim majority countries like Pakistan and other middle eastern countries create huge problems where ever they go because they dont integrate and they think that they are better than everybody around them, you can see what happened in Sweden and UK. So it depends on the culture, also it depends how many?! Look at a country like China, there is a reason why they limit immigration because they see whats happening in the west, how it divides the people here, how news organisaton are having a field day with the topic of racism

conorhal

Danzy wrote: »

Your Lordship is protesting too much.

mynamejeff

sk8erboii wrote: »

Ah yes. The 'real world'

You make me cringe. I know real people in real life

Its a predictable system really. Btw I work a job 100% more important than yours. Dont give me crap about 'the real world' because if you told people that in REAL LIFE we'd cringe at you.

Lol You work a job do you ? Its so important that you have time to come on here and embarrass your self ?

So what do I do that is 100% less important that what you pretend to do ?

Odhinn

sk8erboii wrote: »

Im a normal guy. I come to afterhours to give a bit of realness to the forum. Its too full of old men and peoppe who browse 4chan too much.

Its funny how you say its ‘autism’ when its really just a functioning member of society with formal education speaking to mostly bitter old men.

But you know, keep the insults coming i guess. Ill cry over it with my friends and girlfriend at the bar later.

We'll see how smart you are when I run ye over in me mobility scooter. And yes, I'll reverse.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

sk8erboii wrote: »

Reactionary types beware: Multiculturalism is defined as the spread of people and ideas.

Yep. No to new people and new ideas. They're not local.

Thread went as expected.

gozunda

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Yep. No to new people and new ideas. They're not local.

Thread went as expected.

Poland appeared to be fairly against the idea of 'new people and ideas' during the second world war. They were invaded anyway. Did that make them bad?

Btw the definition of 'multiculturism' has already been detailed in the thread - And it's not what the OP thinks it is either, funnily enough ...

Lefty Bicek

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Thread went as expected.

As did the usual suspects.

ThomasFlynn

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

How depressing a place was Ireland to live in the 90s?

Usually that decade is spoken much more positively in the US and the UK than it is here.

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Early 90's had high unemployment, but late 90's the place was seriously on the up. USA94 and/or Riverdance were like the pivotal moments.

Trump Is Right

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Yep. No to new people and new ideas. They're not local.

Thread went as expected.

Typical snobbish Irish progressive mentality...

Your typical progressive Irish person is so desperate to have their mind enlightened by clever and exotic foreigners, that they will literally embrace anything and everything that is different... just because it's different... :rolleyes:

Because in their warped little skulls, different always = better. And embracing something different, makes them so much more advanced and sophisticated. :pac:

Like the Swedes... probably thought the rest of the world would fawn over them for being so open and enlightened in their thinking. But in reality, the smart and sensible people in society just pity them for being so naive and gullible!

It's the same with progressives on this Island... you are not advanced and sophisticated, for being so quick to embrace everything and anything that is exotic and different irrespective of what it is or what damage it might cause... you are just naive and gullible. Just like those Swedes!

tritriagain

sk8erboii wrote: »

Its true though. Have you seen that Irexit conference? There was not a single person there you could construe as successful and happy.

It seems being bitter and rejected comes with hating other people. Who knew.

Just happened on this thread and seems to me you're good at preaching tolerance but not so good at practicing it with regards to differing opinions. On another note you also come across as a spoiled brat. Not everyone gets the same opportunity or luck in life. Tolerance.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Trump Is Right wrote: »

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Yep. No to new people and new ideas. They're not local.

Thread went as expected.

Typical snobbish Irish progressive mentality...

Your typical progressive Irish person is so desperate to have their mind enlightened by clever and exotic foreigners, that they will literally embrace anything and everything that is different... just because it's different... :rolleyes:

Strawman argument for a start. Read the actual argument made next time...?

Trump Is Right

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Strawman argument for a start. Read the actual argument made next time...?

Nope. It wasn't... but nice try!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Trump Is Right wrote: »

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Strawman argument for a start. Read the actual argument made next time...?

Nope. It wasn't... but nice try!

So... You actually think I wrote the words 'everything new is automatically good'...?

Either it's a strawman are you can't read.

10000maniacs

While I think multicultural environments are good in many ways, we have to draw the line at minority cultures setting the agenda for everybody. For example cancelling Christmas and Easter in schools, banning non halal meat products and pork from school meals. Halal slaughter is especially cruel on animals. And banning LGBT diversity lectures so as not to offend Muslim kids needs to be stopped at source. These things are wrong and it needs to be said in Ireland a lot more because in 10 years time it will be too late.

Lefty Bicek

10000maniacs wrote: »

While I think multicultural environments are good in many ways, we have to draw the line at minority cultures setting the agenda for everybody. For example cancelling Christmas and Easter in schools, banning non halal meat products and pork from school meals. Halal slaughter is especially cruel on animals. And banning LBGT diversity lectures so as not to offend Muslim kids needs to be stopped at source. These things are wrong and it needs to be said in Ireland a lot more because in 10 years time it will be too late.

Yes. Now is the time to speak up, not when we have idiotically made all the mistakes that other countries have made, and are making.

This topic of another thread current here, clearly demonstrates the pace and rate of change. Twelve years ago, the Gardai rejected introducing the turban, partly informed by feedback from British police forces who had already done so, but who by then were wishing they could turn the clock back.

Odhinn

Lefty Bicek wrote: »

Yes. Now is the time to speak up, not when we have idiotically made all the mistakes that other countries have made, and are making.

This topic of another thread current here, clearly demonstrates the pace and rate of change. Twelve years ago, the Gardai rejected introducing the turban, partly informed by feedback from British police forces who had already done so, but who by then were wishing they could turn the clock back.

You've some source for that? I don't recall it being mentioned.

Lefty Bicek

Odhinn wrote: »

You've some source for that? I don't recall it being mentioned.

Yes, I came across it by chance when I was looking for something else in relation to the Garda/turban thread.

I didn't recall it myself.

An Garda Síochána sought the advice of UK police forces and met with representatives of the approximately 1,000-strong Sikh community in Ireland before deciding that Sikh gardaí in Ireland would not wear a turban, Garda Commissioner Noel Conroy said last night.

"We consulted widely on the matter," he said.

Speaking at the Humbert School, he also said that some UK police forces which permit uniformed Sikh colleagues to wear the turban had told Garda representatives that "if they could put the clock backwards they would like to".

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/garda-consulted-widely-on-turban-1.958135

sk8erboii

mynamejeff wrote: »

Lol You work a job do you ? Its so important that you have time to come on here and embarrass your self ?

So what do I do that is 100% less important that what you pretend to do ?

? The only thing embarassing here are the obviously bitter people with a chip on their shoulders.

Lets face it, you're all docile men. You couldn't do this talk of hating immigrants in real life because you'd be shunned.

World is changing, and old men keep dying.

gozunda

sk8erboii wrote: »

? The only thing embarassing here are the obviously bitter people with a chip on their shoulders.Lets face it, you're all docile men. You couldn't do this talk of hating immigrants in real life because you'd be shunned. World is changing, and old men keep dying.

And kids generally grow up and get some sense. Although I'm not convinced in this case tbh

You pretend posters are racist because they've explained that your 'Hot Take' (sic) is rubbish? And as a response you attack others by making sexist and ageist remarks?

Yup you've a way to go there ....

mynamejeff

sk8erboii wrote: »

? The only thing embarassing here are the obviously bitter people with a chip on their shoulders.

Lets face it, you're all docile men. You couldn't do this talk of hating immigrants in real life because you'd be shunned.

World is changing, and old men keep dying.

still talking nonsense eh ?

young men die too boii same as the old ones . not every one understands how to live though

Diceicle

I think multiculturalism is a bad thing without a strong central culture that society is built around.
Theres loads of guff with Leftists essentially eating each other and being emotionally fragile little babies who should be swiftly told where to go or thrown in a cell when they act the maggot like in the video below:

recedite

sk8erboii wrote: »

Its not that hard to understand. Vietnam for example, was under the throes of French hegemony up until the 70s hence why they are wary of white landowners. In the same way Ireland is still collectively staunchly anti-British hegemony. Contrast say with the Philippines who are very much open to foreigners due to America fighting for their liberty against Japan during WW2.

Its gas how people are citing the troubles in NI as somehow a symptom of our being too insular, or a lack of multiculturalism, when in fact its the main manifestation of multiculturalism on this island.


And the Phillipines... did you not know that the yanks intimidated the Spanish out of the place, and then bought it from them? Resulting in the Filipinos going to war against the yanks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine%E2%80%93American_War
All their names were converted to Spanish and their language became English, but that was not through their own choice. Multiculturalism was imposed on them.

CarlosHarpic

I can't wait until we have a lesbian vegan great white shark doing provincial reports on RTE News and saying 'vey-hey-kil' at the side of a road in Edgeworthstown.

corminators

Good video by a muslim who lived in Germany for a number of years on what it's like to grow up in an islamic household in a Western country. Would recommend anybody watches it if they can. Link here.

rays cyst

Hot take indeed. We are being taken for fools and what happens is word gets around and all the while that queue gets longer

What we need right about now is multicurtailism. One too many liberties being taken so what say we set about tying up a few loose ends and get our priorities in order. Nice natural moat surrounding us and in a remote location so how how about we reel in that drawbridge, take stock and salvage whatever remains. Before the whole of the third world comes crashing in top of us

Danzy

What is strange is that many of the people for Multiculturalism are against free market capitalism.

It is like Investment Bankers for the fourth International.

Dissonance must be soul destroying.

rays cyst

Danzy wrote: »

It is like Investment Bankers for the fourth International.

That’s right it’s like being hit with a right old left. Disorientating

Sucker punching yourself to spite your own face has got to be state of confusion in the first place, nevermind the repercussions. Heck it’s left me confused just thinking about it I myself, am more of what one might call an old fashioned leftist yet now I feel the need to embrace this apparent right-turn in order to attempt deter the impending clusterf*ck that will be inevitably be left in these peoples wake.

Whatever may come, will come. Naturally, but it’s not worth whatever short term gain for yourself / within your own lifetime so listen to the conversationist within... see the bigger picture and don’t force offset the natural balance because it’s teetering and come to realise our unique little microclimate we are revered for the world over is under threat. Basically it’s the ecology; stupid. Don’t fūck with it.

old_aussie

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

So... You actually think I wrote the words 'everything new is automatically good'...?

Either it's a strawman are you can't read.

After reading your post I think it must be a strawman, cause a strawman cannot put a sentence together.