Why aren't you donating blood?

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Wanderer78

Judson Squeaking Patient wrote:

I think the government should start a campaign to shame people into doing it. I'm not against (provided it was set up right) a public name-and-shame list of those who don't donate and haven't proven that they can't/or given a proper excuse.

Naming and shaming, always works with resolving life's issues, doesn't it?

Midnight_EG

Anal sex :cool:

ohfa6muwtsvkc1

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Naming and shaming, always works with resolving life's issues, doesn't it?

I'd also propose an extra tax on those who don't.

SSr0

My current tren ace and test prop cycle, prohibits me from doing so.

Wanderer78

Judson Squeaking Patient wrote:

I'd also propose an extra tax on those who don't.

Increasing taxes, always resolves life issues, doesn't it?

amcalester

The Brits operated on me a few years ago so my blood is tainted.

Also, I hear they take a pint? That’s nearly an armful.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Judson Squeaking Patient wrote: »

Excluding those with medical conditions, every Irish adult should be donating blood. It's a disgrace that so many don't.

What's your excuse?

I think the government should start a campaign to shame people into doing it. I'm not against (provided it was set up right) a public name-and-shame list of those who don't donate and haven't proven that they can't/or given a proper excuse.

Feb 14th 2018 my daughter took ill and was brought to Beaumont Hospital with internal bleeding, an artery had ruptured. The blood loss resulted in a cardiac arrest.

Blood donations saved her life.

She received so much type O Negative that the hospital sent out a text alert for O Neg people to donate.. To those people and the doctors & nurses of Beaumont Hospita I'm eternally grateful.

As a diabetic I can't donate, but to anyone here who can ~ thank you, you really do give the gift of life.

Even typing this now and remembering the day chokes me up.

ohfa6muwtsvkc1

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Increasing taxes, always resolves life issues, doesn't it?

Let's assume you

- don't donate
- are capable of doing so

do you think, say an extra E250 tax a month, would persuade you to get off your arse and do something?

Feisar

Judson Squeaking Patient wrote: »

Excluding those with medical conditions, every Irish adult should be donating blood. It's a disgrace that so many don't.

What's your excuse?

I think the government should start a campaign to shame people into doing it. I'm not against (provided it was set up right) a public name-and-shame list of those who don't donate and haven't proven that they can't/or given a proper excuse.

I went to do so in college and couldn't as I had been bitten. Never went back.

Your Face

I got blood taken a few times. More than once they messed it up.

So not anymore.

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I used to love donating it when I was a college student. Free booze. If you felt faint you could even get extra booze. And with the missing pint your be langers on very little. Cakes and crisps too.

But then they would never tell me my blood type. Some administrative error or other, could never find me on the system despite me donating more than my weight in blood over the years.

Then one day I went in and discovered that because I had gotten a tattoo I couldnt donate for some length of time.

Gave up after that. Thats more than 20 years ago now and I still dont know my blood type despite spending a couple of years asking.

Wanderer78

Judson Squeaking Patient wrote:

Let's assume you

'Assumptions are the mother of all fcuk ups'

Judson Squeaking Patient wrote:

do you think, say an extra E250 tax a month, would persuade you to get off your arse and do something?

No

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

I have given blood hundreds of times, but my age now bars me. I am a long time advocate of blood donations and have encouraged many to start donating. But naming and shaming, or offering tax incentives, is a step rather too far.

freshpopcorn

If they had an app you could donate through your phone more people would.

ohfa6muwtsvkc1

Also I think this should be extended to other areas.

If you aren't an organ donor, then more tax while you're alive and 99.9% tax on any inheritance you plan to pass along. And being named and shamed.

LouD2016

Yesterday our pensions were ruining the planet, today its our lack of blood giving.

What will tomorrow bring?!

Ken Tucky

Last time i went to donate i waited to donate for nearly two hours. Then they force you to sit at a table to make sure you're ok. I understand all that but if the time could be cut i would go back to donating.

i know its a crap excuse and i have donated quite a lot of blood but the wait times were getting worse and worse

mzungu

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Increasing taxes, always resolves life issues, doesn't it?

Not that I agree with the OP, but it certainly helped to reduce the amount of smokers and the tax on plastic bags reduced them being used too. So, it does have its benefits.

However, in the case of taxing people that don't give blood, that will do nothing.

B_ecke_r

Organ Donors too.

can't understand why someone would not want to donate their organs

ohfa6muwtsvkc1

Wanderer78 wrote: »

'Assumptions are the mother of all fcuk ups'

not really. I have no idea about your particulars (but I'd take a stab at you being a male in your early 30s, living in Dublin, working in IT and relatively healthy aside from being overweigt) but anyways that's beside the point. We talk in general about the public.

No

Fine then, pay up.

Tom Mann Centuria

I'm English, your anti-Brit Blood transfusion service won't take my blood.

Wanderer78

Judson Squeaking Patient wrote:

not really. I have no idea about your particulars (but I'd take a stab at you being a male in your early 30s, living in Dublin, working in software and relatively healthy aside from being overweigt) but anyways that's beside the point. We talk in general about the public.

Again, assumptions are the mother of all fcuk ups!

Autosport

I donate and I often receive texts when they are looking for O negative blood

ohfa6muwtsvkc1

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

I'm English, your anti-Brit Blood transfusion service won't take my blood.

Fine. But if you're healthy maybe you should be made to do a couple of hours hospital porter duty per month in leiu of blood? And we can have your organs when you die.

Ush1

Judson Squeaking Patient wrote: »

not really. I have no idea about your particulars (but I'd take a stab at you being a male in your early 30s, living in Dublin, working in IT and relatively healthy aside from being overweigt) but anyways that's beside the point. We talk in general about the public.



Fine then, pay up.

Harder, must try harder.

Martina1991

Only 3% of people who are eligible to donate actually do.

The long wait times are a huge deterrent. They must not have enough staff for the mobile clinics.

But naming and shaming won't encourage people to donate.

ohfa6muwtsvkc1

Ush1 wrote: »

Harder, must try harder.

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Again, assumptions are the mother of all fcuk ups!

I don't know what's wrong with you guys and your understanding. let me rephrase.

Let's imagine (yeah, imagine) that whatever your particulars right now, the following is true (again, in your imagination people)

- you're healthy
- you;'re not donating

If all the above was true (remember imagine), then do you think an extra tax per month would want you to change the situation? C'mon people, you can do it!

valoren

I do it every 3 months through work. It's win-win. A free detox and you help someone. Last donation went to Waterford Hospital.
Wait times are on average under an hour.

You can't donate at weekends as it's closed and most people are free at the weekend.

ohfa6muwtsvkc1

Martina1991 wrote: »

Only 3% of people who are eligible to donate actually do.

The long wait times are a huge deterrent. They must not have enough staff for the mobile clinics.

But naming and shaming won't encourage people to donate.

Taxes in combination with it will.

And let's address waiting times too. Why not. It's not a fundamental property of the universe.

Tom Mann Centuria

Judson Squeaking Patient wrote: »

Fine. But if you're healthy maybe you should be made to do a couple of hours hospital porter duty per month in leiu of blood? And we can have your organs when you die.

You can fcuk off, I do more than enough time in hospital thanks. And yes, my organs will be whoever needs them when I die, unless cancer gets me.

Mrcaramelchoc

****ers told me i couldn't.

ryanch09

I was born in the UK during the BSE scare in the 90s, so I'm not able to donate, otherwise I absolutely would

Ush1

Judson Squeaking Patient wrote: »

I don't know what's wrong with you guys and your understanding. let me rephrase.

Let's imagine (yeah, imagine) that whatever your particulars right now, the following is true (again, in your imagination people)

- you're healthy
- you;'re not donating

If all the above was true (remember imagine), then do you think an extra tax per month would want you to change the situation? C'mon people, you can do it!

Imagine all the people...
Giving blood for tax exemptioooooonnns...

is_that_so

amcalester wrote: »

The Brits operated on me a few years ago so my blood is tainted.

Also, I hear they take a pint? That’s nearly an armful.

If you've lived in the UK for any length of time you can't donate. That rules out a lot of people, including me.

ohfa6muwtsvkc1

Ush1 wrote: »

Imagine all the people...
Giving blood for tax exemptioooooonnns...

Great argument guy

Apiarist

I donate, there are so many people who cannot donate (young, elderly, pregnant, lived in UK in 90s, gay etc), so whoever can should do it regularly.

B_ecke_r

valoren wrote: »

I do it every 3 months through work. It's win-win. A free detox and you help someone. Last donation went to Waterford Hospital.
Wait times are on average under an hour.

You can't donate at weekends as it's closed and most people are free at the weekend.

who would complain about wait times during work hours?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Autosport wrote: »

I donate and I often receive texts when they are looking for O negative blood

My daughter was saved by type O Neg donors like you, thank you.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Judson Squeaking Patient wrote: »

Fine. But if you're healthy maybe you should be made to do a couple of hours hospital porter duty per month in leiu of blood? And we can have your organs when you die.

Meanwhile, back in the real world....

Ush1

Judson Squeaking Patient wrote: »

Great argument guy

I'm not your guy, buddy.

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Naming and shaming only works if people feel ashamed of the thing they are being named and shamed for.

Who has the time to even read the list of almost everyone in the country to see if someone they know is being named and shamed for not donating blood!!

And who cares if your name is on it? So is the name of practically everyone else in the country!

binana

I've donated blood 3 times and I've been told not to push myself to do it anymore as I'm not an ideal donor.

Tight veins, borderline iron levels, and low blood pressure. It takes the max time to barely pass the minimum donation and they see me as a massive fainting risk. I'll probably continue to try giving blood but with less frequency, maybe once a year rather than every 3 months.

Lu Tze

I've been on medication for a good few years now but the end is potentially in sight in the next year or so.
I'll be donating afterwards once allowed, everything that could go wrong when inserting cannulas etc. has already happened, including getting an artery instead of a vein, so no fear left at this stage!

Raven_k42

Spent 15 years in UK so no longer eligible. I have rare blood-type too and often got calls from Pelican House in the old days.

Over the last few years I've driven up to Newry on several occasions to give blood. Seems somewhat odd every time - can't donate in Dundalk but a few miles up the road !!.

Do we ever "import" blood ?.

K

tcawley29

The rampant recreational drug use would have an impact on this too as I believe you have to wait 6 months after your last dose to donate. That rules out a lot of the youth today

Martina1991

Frances Fresh Soreness wrote:

She received so much type O Negative that the hospital sent out a text alert for O Neg people to donate.. To those people and the doctors & nurses of Beaumont Hospita I'm eternally grateful.

Just want to say its not just doctors and nurses that are involved major haemorrhage cases.

In the blood transfusion laboratory there are medical scientists cross matching units of blood, plasma, platelets and other blood products for patients. Their work is critical as one minor mistake or error can be fatal.

In most hospitals at night and on weekends there is one person working in the blood transfusion department.

Last night on call, a woman had a major haemorrhage during a c section. It took about 12 hours and at least 20 blood products to stabilise her with that one person being responsible for her receiving the right products as soon as possible right throughout the night.

Tom Mann Centuria

Raven_k42 wrote: »

Spent 15 years in UK so no longer eligible. I have rare blood-type too and often got calls from Pelican House in the old days.

Over the last few years I've driven up to Newry on several occasions to give blood. Seems somewhat odd every time - can't donate in Dundalk but a few miles up the road !!.

Do we ever "import" blood ?.

K

Some blood products are imported from the US of A.

_Kaiser_

Not donating (don't even know my blood type - which is probably a reflection of rarely being in a doctor's office anyway) and I don't have the time or inclination to spend hours doing it.

Would be even less a fan of the heavy-handed tactics being advocated here.

MarkR

13 times so far. Tried last week, but I had a stomach bug the week previous, so didn't meet the criteria. Free crisps and chocolate are a plus.

ohfa6muwtsvkc1

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Naming and shaming only works if people feel ashamed of the thing they are being named and shamed for.

Who has the time to even read the list of almost everyone in the country to see if someone they know is being named and shamed for not donating blood!!

And who cares if your name is on it? So is the name of practically everyone else in the country!

It'll be in local papers (and available online for country wide search). The two first inside pages of the paper will have all the names and then photos of dying patients. The message is clear. And the tax will rise year on year.