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2022 Open to be played in Hoylake - one in the eye for Trump?

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    #32
    Norm Peterson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭Norm Peterson


    Pints? wrote: »
    Exactly. Otherwise the Master's would have to be played on a golf course not steeped in racism.


    But it isn't anymore, frankly it was shameful that they supported the club for so long whilst it had it's outwardly racist rules in place.


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    #33
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,517 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Norm Peterson wrote:
    But it isn't anymore, frankly it was shameful that they supported the club for so long whilst it had it's outwardly racist rules in place.
    This is about sport and history. It's not about politics and what the majority of the outside world want.
    If you don't like it then tough, go watch something else.
    This game is too great to be dragged down by people's beliefs about how the world is supposed to be.
    I'm not racist btw, just don't want golf to ever be about pleasing anyone's interests outside of the game.


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    #34
    Norm Peterson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭Norm Peterson


    eagle eye wrote: »
    This is about sport and history. It's not about politics and what the majority of the outside world want.
    If you don't like it then tough, go watch something else.
    This game is too great to be dragged down by people's beliefs about how the world is supposed to be.
    I'm not racist btw, just don't want golf to ever be about pleasing anyone's interests outside of the game.

    Fair enough but in all fairness the rules in Augusta for far too long were disgusting and really the golfing authorities should have done something about it.Their rules should have appalled people within the game and not been done to please people outside of the game. I don't want politics taking over sports but with regards to Augusta they really should have done more a lot sooner to push the club forward.

    The bolded part is completely stupid way of thinking as that's what a lot of people do if something pisses them off about a sport be it directly connect with a sport i.e. slow play in golf for example , or something less directly connected. Sports generally should be doing everything possible to capture as many fans not the opposite.


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    #35
    ligerdub
    Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    Norm Peterson wrote: »
    Fair enough but in all fairness the rules in Augusta for far too long were disgusting and really the golfing authorities should have done something about it.Their rules should have appalled people within the game and not been done to please people outside of the game. I don't want politics taking over sports but with regards to Augusta they really should have done more a lot sooner to push the club forward.

    The bolded part is completely stupid way of thinking as that's what a lot of people do if something pisses them off about a sport be it directly connect with a sport i.e. slow play in golf for example , or something less directly connected. Sports generally should be doing everything possible to capture as many fans not the opposite.

    Like what? Specifically.


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    #36
    Norm Peterson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭Norm Peterson


    ligerdub wrote: »
    Like what? Specifically.


    Black people were barred from being members.

    All caddies had to be black for a long time , Clifford Roberts the chairman of Augusta National famously said " as long as I'm alive all players will be white and all caddies will be black"


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    #37
    Rikand
    Registered Users Posts: 20,340 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Norm Peterson wrote: »
    Black people were barred from being members.

    All caddies had to be black for a long time , Clifford Roberts the chairman of Augusta National famously said " as long as I'm alive all players will be white and all caddies will be black"

    Providing much needed employment to a minority group.


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    #38
    ligerdub
    Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    Norm Peterson wrote: »
    Black people were barred from being members.

    All caddies had to be black for a long time , Clifford Roberts the chairman of Augusta National famously said " as long as I'm alive all players will be white and all caddies will be black"

    The same guy had no problem in accepting Lee Elder as a player over 40 years ago. If you're good enough to play in the tournament you get in, which has pretty much always been the case. Not only that Elder has rarely missed a visit in the time since, and has always noted how welcome he felt there, more so than other tournaments he played in.

    Plus I don't think it's particularly fair to cast aside an entire venue on the basis of one autocrat's approach to things either, particularly one long since gone from the earth.

    There have been feck all members of Augusta full stop. It's entire existence centres around hosting one of the most prestigious tournaments there is.

    I think we're all a little sick of the outrage mob these days.


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    #39
    Norm Peterson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭Norm Peterson


    Rikand wrote: »
    Providing much needed employment to a minority group.

    I don't think that was the reason for the policy.


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    Keano
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    This has gone far beyond golf, we are done.


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