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    #182
    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,522 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    BPKS wrote: »
    Wait until some 16 year old driving a John Deere with a huge trailer of silage on the back kills somebody and see if they change the law then.

    No joke here, that day is coming.


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    #183
    Amberjack
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    Electric bikes are an option, they’re fairly speedy


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    #184
    DoctorEdgeWild
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    Inconvenience trumping the law. Amazing.


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    #185
    [Deleted User]
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    BarryD2 wrote: »
    Duffy just doesn't understand the reality of rural Ireland. He doesn't even understand public transport in Dublin but assumes it's like that everywhere.
    There are advantages and disadvantages to living in rural Ireland and in cities. I'm from the countryside, and tbh it seems from a quick online search that the waiting times for driving tests are consistently exaggerated.

    I suspect the problem is more that people are failing their tests and then continuing to drive.


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    #186
    Odyssey 2005
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    Dan Jaman wrote: »
    To be fair, the lads around here driving the tractors/trailers are quite on the ball.

    Same here.


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    #187
    Roger_007
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    Amberjack wrote: »
    Electric bikes are an option, they’re fairly speedy

    But you need an awful long lead!


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    #188
    DoctorEdgeWild
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    It was very inconvenient as there was a big queue at the shop. So I massacred the lot of them.


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    #189
    BPKS
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    Dan Jaman wrote: »
    To be fair, the lads around here driving the tractors/trailers are quite on the ball.

    My point is a 16 year old can drive a tractor and trailer on his own. But a 30 year old learner driver cannot drive a Ford Fiesta on his own.

    This is the country we live in folks.


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    #190
    somesoldiers
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    Who is going to police all this Genius?


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    #191
    [Deleted User]
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    Three lessons, great off ya go. Should be same for pilots’ license etc


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    #192
    Dan Jaman
    Registered Users Posts: 38,764 ✭✭✭✭Dan Jaman


    Get your lad on a bike, learn about the road, then put a car on the road and do some lessons, same as everybody else. 
    Вашему собственному бычьему дерьму нельзя верить - V Putin




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    #193
    BarryD2
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    The chap makes a valid point. It's all very well bringing in new laws but if they can't be implemented by ordinary people, then the law becomes an ass. Things have changed a lot since I did the driving test, now everyone has to do 12 lessons and learn under supervision. No reason why learners couldn't be permitted to drive unaccompanied when they've reached a certain standard and under certain conditions.


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    #194
    [Deleted User]
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    BPKS wrote: »
    My point is a 16 year old can drive a tractor and trailer on his own. But a 30 year old learner driver cannot drive a Ford Fiesta on his own.

    This is the country we live in folks.
    Yeah, that's ridiculous, but two wrongs don't make a right.


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    #195
    BarryD2
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    Dan Jaman wrote: »
    Man's a total gobshyte.
    If his lad is too soft to put a bike on the road, he can just tough it out.

    More lads get killed off motorbikes than any other group.


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    #196
    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,522 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    BarryD2 wrote: »
    No reason why learners couldn't be permitted to drive unaccompanied when they've reached a certain standard and under certain conditions.

    Isnt that called passing the test?


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    #197
    joe316
    Registered Users Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭joe316


    Why not do a driving test after 3 pints? If these slack jawed yokels pass one then they can drive to ‘stay part of the community’....


    Although has anyone asked why do they need to have a pint? Do they have to drink?

    This is coming from someone who likes the odd pint but can live without one for weeks/months on end.


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    #198
    Dan Jaman
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    BPKS wrote: »
    My point is a 16 year old can drive a tractor and trailer on his own. But a 30 year old learner driver cannot drive a Ford Fiesta on his own.

    This is the country we live in folks.


    The farming lobby will fight any change to that tooth and nail.
    It will be interesting to see the figures for 16 year olds and tractor accidents. 
    Вашему собственному бычьему дерьму нельзя верить - V Putin




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    #199
    DoctorEdgeWild
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    Giving out about too many rules by introducing about a thousand new, unenforceable rules. Good one caller.


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    #200
    Dan Jaman
    Registered Users Posts: 38,764 ✭✭✭✭Dan Jaman


    BarryD2 wrote: »
    More lads get killed off motorbikes than any other group.


    It's Darwinism. 
    Вашему собственному бычьему дерьму нельзя верить - V Putin




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    #201
    Roger_007
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    DoctorEdgeWild wrote: »
    It was very inconvenient as there was a big queue at the shop. So I massacred the lot of them.

    If the shop was in rural Ireland, you'd be absolutely entitled to do that!


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    #202
    [Deleted User]
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    BarryD2 wrote: »
    The chap makes a valid point. It's all very well bringing in new laws but if they can't be implemented by ordinary people, then the law becomes an ass. Things have changed a lot since I did the driving test, now everyone has to do 12 lessons and learn under supervision. No reason why learners couldn't be permitted to drive unaccompanied when they've reached a certain standard and under certain conditions.

    This is actually done in the case of student pilots. You have to get an authorization of a Senior Flying Instructor to fly solo. Not many of that species, and you have to do on average 30 lessons to fly alone.


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    #203
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    Topgear on Dave wrote: »
    Isnt that called passing the test?

    Chicken & egg. It helps greatly to pass the test, if you can gain experience.


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    #204
    woejus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭woejus


    My Gov ID is a national ID card by stealth.. it's time to sign up - you can't avoid it


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    #205
    Topgear on Dave
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    In fairness caller it would be impossible to grit all the roads in Cavan, everybody is living everywhere, hardly anybody lives in my home town.

    Most folks built a big house on a site outside of it.


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    #206
    Uncharted
    Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    Sombre tones from Joe.


    Death or a tragedy imminent.....


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    #207
    Dan Jaman
    Registered Users Posts: 38,764 ✭✭✭✭Dan Jaman


    BarryD2 wrote: »
    Chicken & egg. It helps greatly to pass the test, if you can gain experience.


    And turn up to do the test with all the bad habits of yer auld wan and all the ones you've developed yourself.
    Better to stick to the lessons and drive accompanied by a professional.
    That was the case back when I was learning, and I had a few professional drivers in my family who took the same view. 
    Вашему собственному бычьему дерьму нельзя верить - V Putin




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    #208
    [Deleted User]
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    Dan Jaman wrote: »
    The farming lobby will fight any change to that tooth and nail.
    It will be interesting to see the figures for 16 year olds and tractor accidents.
    Anecdotally, its pretty rare. I can only think of one such accident (my own brother, nearly 20 years ago).

    If you're in a tractor your speed is far more limited than a car, and you have a far better view of your environment than a motorist or a cyclist will.

    Having said that, there's no reason why we can't introduce driving tests for tractors, and certainly no way in Hell any 16yo should be pulling any kind of load on a tractor


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    #209
    Living Off The Splash
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    Don't mention any names....Duffy terrified now.....


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    #210
    Dan Jaman
    Registered Users Posts: 38,764 ✭✭✭✭Dan Jaman


    woejus wrote: »
    My Gov ID is a national ID card by stealth.. it's time to sign up - you can't avoid it


    As I predicted, they're slowly tightening the rules so that if you want to avail of any official services, you need the card.
    Unlike my Credit Union, who refuse to accept the official goverment issued ID card as photo ID. Gobshytes. 
    Вашему собственному бычьему дерьму нельзя верить - V Putin




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    #211
    somesoldiers
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    Dan Jaman wrote: »
    As I predicted, they're slowly tightening the rules so that if you want to avail of any official services, you need the card.
    Unlike my Credit Union, who refuse to accept the official goverment issued ID card as photo ID. Gobshytes.

    bloody credit union- every time I go in I bring my driving licence as more often than not I am asked for it despite them having a copy of it on their system....gas they are 10 people running around behind the counter, oul wuns paying a fiver of this and a fiver off that.

    i had 50K savings with them for 2 years (was waiting to buy land that dragged on longer than I thought I just needed quick access) earned about e100 interest in that time. Then they asked me what I wanted my money for and would I like a loan instead (at 7-8 % frickin percent)


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