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Munster vs Southern Kings, Fri 15th Feb 7:35pm; Eir Sports 2

  • 14-02-2019 11:39am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭


    Munster:
    Mike Haley; Andrew Conway, Chris Farrell, Rory Scannell, Darren Sweetnam; Tyler Bleyendaal (C), Neil Cronin;
    Jeremy Loughman, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Billy Holland; Fineen Wycherley, Chris Cloete, Arno Botha.

    Replacements: Rhys Marshall, Liam O’Connor, Stephen Archer, Darren O’Shea, Gavin Coombes, Alby Mathewson, JJ Hanrahan, Dan Goggin.

    Southern Kings:

    15. Masixole Banda
    14. Yaw Penxe
    13. Meli Rokoua
    12. Berton Klaasen
    11. Bjorn Basson
    10. Bader Pretorius
    9. Stefan Ungerer

    1. Schalk Ferreira
    2. Michael Willemse
    3. De-Jay Terblanche
    4. Andries Van Schalkwyk
    5. John-Charles Astle (captain)
    6. Stephan De Wit
    7. Martinus Burger
    8. Ruaan Lerm

    Replacements:

    16. Alandre Van Rooyen
    17. Alulutho Tshakweni
    18. Pieter Scholtz
    19. Stephan Greeff
    20. Andisa Ntsila
    21. Sarel Pretorius
    22. Tertius Kruger
    23. Ulrich Beyers

    An absolutely stacked Munster starting XV has been named for what should be a comfortable victory over the visiting Southern Kings.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    Very strong side. Would have liked to see Bill get the nod or bench spot though. And he did media so this seems strange...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Sabre0001 wrote: »
    Very strong side. Would have liked to see Bill get the nod or bench spot though. And he did media so this seems strange...

    That's an odd one alright. Hopefully it's not injury related.


  • Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That is a powerful side, even devoid of 6 nations players.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    the betting spread hasnt change after that announcement... so still there at -29 if anyones interested


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Would have preferred to see a little bit more experimentation here for this one. There really isn't a weaker fixture in the season for any province to use for development. 13 of the 23 that beat Exeter will feature tomorrow night.

    I'm hoping/assuming that guys like Oliver and Johnston are injured but they were involved in training this week so I'm somewhat confused by their absences.

    Game should be enjoyable as an opportunity to see some tries and get some match fitness for a few guys.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Southern Kings:

    15. Masixole Banda
    14. Yaw Penxe
    13. Meli Rokoua
    12. Berton Klaasen
    11. Bjorn Basson
    10. Bader Pretorius
    9. Stefan Ungerer

    1. Schalk Ferreira
    2. Michael Willemse
    3. De-Jay Terblanche
    4. Andries Van Schalkwyk
    5. John-Charles Astle (captain)
    6. Stephan De Wit
    7. Martinus Burger
    8. Ruaan Lerm

    Replacements:

    16. Alandre Van Rooyen
    17. Alulutho Tshakweni
    18. Pieter Scholtz
    19. Stephan Greeff
    20. Andisa Ntsila
    21. Sarel Pretorius
    22. Tertius Kruger
    23. Ulrich Beyers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,295 ✭✭✭slingerz


    I'd imagine Chris Farrell gets taken off after 60 mins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭case885


    JVG has been very conservative with his selections in these type of games.
    Haley has played a huge amount already this season it would have been a good opportunity for his back up to get minutes there.
    TB has played very poorly in his last few outings and yet Johnston can't make the 23 against a side that won't get within 20 points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Perhaps Bleyendaal is being given a chance to earn a contract?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Jesus! A vintage beating coming up for the Kings.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭Jewelers


    Dubinusa wrote: »
    Jesus! A vintage beating coming up for the Kings.

    do munster really give beatings in musgraves though , and that kings side is okish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭who_me


    Buer wrote: »
    Would have preferred to see a little bit more experimentation here for this one. There really isn't a weaker fixture in the season for any province to use for development. 13 of the 23 that beat Exeter will feature tomorrow night.

    I'm hoping/assuming that guys like Oliver and Johnston are injured but they were involved in training this week so I'm somewhat confused by their absences.

    Game should be enjoyable as an opportunity to see some tries and get some match fitness for a few guys.

    A fair point, but also I think this is an area that the provinces (Munster at least) have been getting better at.

    In seasons past, we'd have a clear, distinct A and B team, who probably wouldn't even know each other if they met on the street. ;) The "B" team would start the season and be.. mediocre, the "A" team would come in en masse leading up the Heineken Cup and be better but very rusty. Swapping back then during international windows..

    I don't think that's the best way to go. In the above team, we have three 'breaking through' players in Cronin, Loughman and Wycherly starting; and a few more from the fringes on the bench. To me, that's about the right number. Less fringe players than that, and it's a waste of an opportunity to give them experience. More than that, and you risk a bit of a messy/disjointed game.

    IMO it's not just about getting them on the field and getting a result, you want them to be playing in the moves/style and at the pace of the senior team. Having 3 fringe players surrounded by established players should lead to useful experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Stone Gossard


    Thought the King's FB was called Massive Panda when I looked first!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭Jewelers


    Thought the King's FB was called Massive Panda when I looked first!

    Masixole Banda how does that look like massive panda do you have a bear fetish ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Stone Gossard


    Jewelers wrote: »
    Masixole Banda how does that look like massive panda do you have a bear fetish ?

    I think that's a given now isn't it?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭Jewelers


    I think that's a given now isn't it?!

    does he **** in the woods ?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Jewelers wrote: »
    do munster really give beatings in musgraves though , and that kings side is okish


    This season
    49-13 v Ospreys.
    44-14 v Edinburgh.

    3 x 25+ point wins there last season.

    Munster normally win big in Cork have been hammering nearly everyone at home this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Defunkd


    Buer wrote: »
    Would have preferred to see a little bit more experimentation here for this one.

    It's getting late for experimentation.
    3 games after tonight - HC SF
    3 games after that - domestic league ends.

    These 10's need more gametime. I'd have no concerns for cover in any other position, well, maybe 15.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Buer wrote: »
    Would have preferred to see a little bit more experimentation here for this one. There really isn't a weaker fixture in the season for any province to use for development. 13 of the 23 that beat Exeter will feature tomorrow night.

    I'm hoping/assuming that guys like Oliver and Johnston are injured but they were involved in training this week so I'm somewhat confused by their absences.

    Game should be enjoyable as an opportunity to see some tries and get some match fitness for a few guys.

    Bill Johnston aside, I'm not sure how much leeway Munster would have to experiment, since we don't know how much influence the Irish management has. They are probably obliged to start the wider Ireland squad members (Niall Scannell, Ryan, Farrell and Conway) who are made available. Conway is the second option at fullback but if he has to start on the wing then it makes sense to keep Haley in the lineup. Neil Cronin is starting at 9 when players ahead of him are available. Jeremy Loughman is getting opportunities due to Kilcoyne's callup and Cronin's injury. Coombes will only become a senior player next season and he's selected ahead of Oliver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Lovely February night weather here. Wind seems to be blowing in all directions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    King's carrying well..... Strangely


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Stone Gossard


    Well worked try... but it was so easy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    King's carrying well..... Strangely

    The Kings are good in attack. It's the other side of the ball that's the issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    Hope farrells alright, the guy can't catch a break this season


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Stone Gossard


    How many balls has Scannell kicked out of the ground?..3?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    How did they not score there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Kings will be getting a sinbin soon. Penalty after penalty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭padraig.od


    What has happened to Farrell?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Stone Gossard


    I make it 4 balls out now...

    Goggin made a bad error there.. overlap and a certain try butchered with a poor pass attempt


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Stone Gossard


    padraig.od wrote: »
    What has happened to Farrell?

    Tweaked his knee.. taken off as a precaution Flannery said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    There's the card. Now here's the chance to pull away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Very harsh yellow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    Silly yellow imo are you just not aloud compete for the ball anymore?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Super pass by Tyler there off his left


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Conway deserves it. He's been excellent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    Strange decision from Bleyendaal there...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    One pass aside. Tyler is getting worse.
    That last kick sums it up, on the front foot and he kicks it out after 40. Chr*st


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Yup, I hated that decision. Kings are giving penalties for fun. You have to at least go through a few phases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Haley is such a lovely, balanced runner. Just glided along. He's really come on as the season has progressed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Stone Gossard


    Alby might start running the ball here


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Bit more direction with Alby on.

    Lovely conversion into the wind by Scannell too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,944 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    What’s the score?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭sioda


    19 nil


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    leakyboots wrote: »
    Haley is such a lovely, balanced runner. Just glided along. He's really come on as the season has progressed


    For a man who didn't touch the ball for the first half hour, in the next half he's ran the ball 7 times, making 125m, 3 clean breaks with 6 defenders beaten!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Gwan Billy, one of our all-time greats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭budhabob


    Knock on?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Stone Gossard


    Would be harsh to call that as a knock-on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭Jewelers


    this ref is awful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Knock on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭budhabob


    Insteresting Scannell taking all the kicks? Missed the first half


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