Donegal Spewsday

Mrs OBumble

Rag week starting today, according to this.

https://www.evensi.ie/connaught/gaillimh/leisure/galway-rag-week-2019-official-eyre-square-gaillimh-county-h91-eire-282705209


Mercifully a week apart from the Novena this year.

Looking forward to the annual vid of the Hole in the Wall queue tomorrow, and disturbed sleep every evening. Not.

Mr_A

Great stuff. The colleges are one of the foundations of the city's success. Hope they all have a great time and stay safe.

ratracer

Should be a good week for some of the pubs so! It’d be great to be a carefree student again

Utopia Parkway

Doesn't seem too mental so far. Drove through Woodquay and there was a small enough crowd outside both Barr an Caladh and the Hole.

Forecast is good for the week too so there won't be much rain to drive them indoors.

Diabhal Beag

Students are such softies nowadays with their Cleancut Meals and their vape pens.

Back in my day lecturers used to get one of those safari jeeps and would boot it all around the city centre wrangling students back in for 4 o'clock lectures.

Arghus

I hope they have the craic.

Good luck to them.

skinny90

What lovely comments so far. Where are all the ones from xmas day...

I'd love to be in there with them, I always thoroughly enjoyed rag week (I think, memory wasn't the strong point of the week drinking from morning to nightclub close everyday :pac:)

TerrorFirmer

Live and let live. There's no harm in it and you're only young once.

I'm a journalist and I remember a year or two ago doing interviews at The Hole in the Wall and also doing vox pops with people passing by.

One old lad - say he would've been 80 if not older - said "I wish I could've done that back in my day, hope they've a great time!"

Doctors room ghost

We were all young once.hopefully the week passes quietly and they all go home at the weekend without any tragedy happening.each to their own and once they aren’t harming anyone they’re just young ones blowing off steam

Andrew00

Was in town today and saw 2 students falling out onto the road outside McGettingans pissed with drink

Andrew00

The craic

ben.schlomo

Andrew00 wrote: »

Was in town today and saw 2 students falling out onto the road outside McGettingans pissed with drink

Shocking, are you okay?

thesandeman

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Live and let live. There's no harm in it and you're only young once.

I'm a journalist and I remember a year or two ago doing interviews at The Hole in the Wall and also doing vox pops with people passing by.

One old lad - say he would've been 80 if not older - said "I wish I could've done that back in my day, hope they've a great time!"

That was probably Stephen Fahy.

Diabhal Beag

Very well behaved so far by Donegal Tuesday standards.

Zzippy

Had to dodge a student tripping out onto the road on Salmon Weir bridge earlier. Van behind me beeped at the same guy as he stepped out in front of him too. Stopped at next lights and along comes the young lad banging on yer man's window and giving him guff for beeping. I'd say he was lucky the lights went green just then...

The Lost Sheep

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Very well behaved so far by Donegal Tuesday standards.

fairly tame from bit I've seen around town. Leaving Galway now but just seen a small number of Donegal jerseys and not much else. (Much fewer than previous years...)

smurf492

Why are the public pathways from the hole in the wall pub back to Eglinton Street allowed to be used for queuing. Bouncers outside obviously working for the pub in question. Extra garda on duty at the taxpayers expense, not the expense of the hole in the wall which is the main culprit for all this donegal Tuesday sh*%te.. Are any of the licensed premises going to be held in part responsible or is it just a case of endless bitchin about it being the fault of the college... Im sure the residents of bohermore and surrounding areas would like a few answers after the crap they have had to deal with the last couple of days.

inisboffin

Severely locked crew by hole in the wall today around 3 ish. 99% were good natured and having the craic and so what if they were b*llixed at that time

There were messers but mostly worried about the ones (there were a few) falling into traffic and belting cars. The latter were just gobsh*tes, but the former I'd worry about as drivers tend not to be as on guard for drunk obstacles at 3pm. I had one fall into me on the bike, too drunk to apologise but gave me a wave! :pac:

Reports of some of the g-sh*tes up Bohermore egging houses. It's a pity because it's only a minority behaving this badly.

The Lost Sheep

smurf492 wrote: »

Why are the public pathways from the hole in the wall pub back to Eglinton Street allowed to be used for queuing. Bouncers outside obviously working for the pub in question. Extra garda on duty at the taxpayers expense, not the expense of the hole in the wall which is the main culprit for all this donegal Tuesday sh*%te.. Are any of the licensed premises going to be held in part responsible or is it just a case of endless bitchin about it being the fault of the college... Im sure the residents of bohermore and surrounding areas would like a few answers after the crap they have had to deal with the last couple of days.

Would you prefer the alternative of it being more messy and more chance of accidents?
Cordon off footpath. Keeps people on footpath more and not on road *should at least obv not guaranteed*

Mrs OBumble

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Would you prefer the alternative of it being more messy and more chance of accidents?
Cordon off footpath. Keeps people on footpath more and not on road *should at least obv not guaranteed*

You're not wrong.

But it is illegal as well. People who've had to obey this law in their own businesses tend to get upset when other people break it.

People queue for things on the street all the time, this is one day of the year just cross the road and walk in the other path ffs. Where do people expect them to queue if not on the path?

Mrs OBumble

Stevie Thousands Abscess wrote: »

People queue for things on the street all the time, this is one day of the year just cross the road and walk in the other path ffs. Where do people expect them to queue if not on the path?

Not the point.

The issue is that a private business took control of the public footpath.

Why should Mr Fahy be able to do that, when other businesses can't?

ben.schlomo

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Stevie Thousands Abscess wrote: »

People queue for things on the street all the time, this is one day of the year just cross the road and walk in the other path ffs. Where do people expect them to queue if not on the path?

Not the point.

The issue is that a private business took control of the public footpath.

Why should Mr Fahy be able to do that, when other businesses can't?

All the nightclubs in town do it don't they.

The Lost Sheep

ben.schlomo wrote: »

All the nightclubs in town do it don't they.

They do and it isnt issue there. There would be far more potential issues if you dont corden off footpath for people queueing for these places

Mrs OBumble

ben.schlomo wrote: »

All the nightclubs in town do it don't they.

Yes. But it's still illegal.

Some illegal things which are ok at night l, when regular pedestrians aren't around, aren't appropriate during the day when they are.

Mr Fahy's licence says he should not be serving people who are intoxicated. If he kept to the terms of that, then no barriers would be needed.

The Lost Sheep

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Yes. But it's still illegal.

Some illegal things which are ok at night l, when regular pedestrians aren't around, aren't appropriate during the day when they are.

Mr Fahy's licence says he should not be serving people who are intoxicated. If he kept to the terms of that, then no barriers would be needed.

It isnt illegal and gardai would prefer it to the greater likelihood of incidents if you dont have barriers.
And every pub/bar/nightclub serves people who are intoxicated and .... your attitude is ridiculous.....

BobbyBobberson

It is beside the point but The Hole In The Wall owners or staff did not come up with the concept of Donegal Tuesday. It originated there alright but not because of management.

Anyway by all accounts it seems quieter this year.

Andrew00

It was definitely quieter and less violent this year

BobbyBobberson

Andrew00 wrote: »

It was definitely quieter and less violent this year

Great. Have to say I was heartened with the comments in here about people enjoying themselves. Was not expecting it!

bodhrandude

Top thread title ha ha :D:D

Mrs OBumble

I'm glad it's been quieter. Still ten public order arrests is a lot for a Tuesday night. https://connachttribune.ie/gardai-make-10-public-order-arrests-in-city-following-donegal-tuesday/


Section 71 of the 1993 Roads Act says essentially that you cannot put street furniture, including crowd-control gates, out unless you have a license. You'll only get one of those if there is 1.8 of clear footapth left for other people to use.


And it may not have been HITW's idea originally. But while other pubs hired door staff to keep students out. HITW hired them to marshall the crowd going in.

The Lost Sheep

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

I'm glad it's been quieter. Still ten public order arrests is a lot for a Tuesday night. https://connachttribune.ie/gardai-make-10-public-order-arrests-in-city-following-donegal-tuesday/

Section 71 of the 1993 Roads Act says essentially that you cannot put street furniture, including crowd-control gates, out unless you have a license. You'll only get one of those if there is 1.8 of clear footapth left for other people to use.

And it may not have been HITW's idea originally. But while other pubs hired door staff to keep students out. HITW hired them to marshall the crowd going in.

10 arrests on a very busy night out isnt that much.
If there was issue for guards theyd do something about it.
Do you have same complaints about electric when they do the same for their nightclub queues every night?
All pubs dont have door staff to keep students out. Its all about marshalling and checking those going in and when theyre in the venue

joeKel73

BobbyBobberson wrote: »

It is beside the point but The Hole In The Wall owners or staff did not come up with the concept of Donegal Tuesday. It originated there alright but not because of management.

It originated in the College Bar.

zell12

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

....
Do you have same complaints about electric when they do the same for their nightclub queues every night?
...

Yes.
They are not entitled to appropriate the public thoroughfare for their own business profits

Fitz*

I passed through town last night, by chance, and saw nothing out of the ordinary really. Nothing bad anyways. I knew it was RAG week so was expecting a lot more. One lad stumbled off the path onto the road and that was it. Was expecting 50 of them to do the same going by this thread.


Back in my day in college, every club had those barriers out every night of the week. There were barriers for CPs, GPO/Carbon, Karma, Cuba etc. Every night they were used, and only some had that space to allow people to walk outside but to be fair there would be very very little 'normal' passing foot-traffic. All the foot-traffic in the general area would be people walking to the clubs that night in order to queue up. This happened every night for years on end. I don't see these barriers half as much anymore (are they actually still being used at all?) The barriers used at HITW in order to keep people off the road and actually queuing in a orderly manner where the roads and paths are tight.

And the same usuals complain about them being used for 2-3 nights now.

The Lost Sheep

zell12 wrote: »

Yes.
They are not entitled to appropriate the public thoroughfare for their own business profits

They do so to keep people off the road. It stops accidents and if there were issues surely guards would have stepped in?
They are entitled to use the public thoroughfare to protect people....

Mrs OBumble

FitzShane wrote: »

And the same usuals complain about them being used for 2-3 nights now.

No one's complaining about them being used at night.

But there should never be a need for them to used outside a pub at 10am.

The Lost Sheep

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

No one's complaining about them being used at night.

But there should never be a need for them to used outside a pub at 10am.

But there is due to events going on.
If crowds are expected what else should the security do?

BobbyBobberson

J o e wrote: »

It originated in the College Bar.

Nah it didnt, it was started by a load of Donegal lads who used to drink in the side bar of the Hole and then just told everyone to come the Tuesday of RAG week with a jersey on. Irony was all the nightclub who now promote it turned people away the first couple of years.

It seems pubs cant win according to a few on here.

Mrs OBumble

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Not the point.

The issue is that a private business took control of the public footpath.

Why should Mr Fahy be able to do that, when other businesses can't?

Other businesses do do it, you can't stop people queuing the barriers make the queue safer and more orderly. They do not ad any additional difficulty in walking along the path as its already not possible due to the queue but it does make it safer for cars and for the people queuing.

People (will about 3 people in the who county) complaining about a business in-acting some health and safety measures is beyond idiotic.

joeKel73

BobbyBobberson wrote: »

Nah it didnt, it was started by a load of Donegal lads who used to drink in the side bar of the Hole and then just told everyone to come the Tuesday of RAG week with a jersey on. Irony was all the nightclub who now promote it turned people away the first couple of years.

It seems pubs cant win according to a few on here.

Nope, it started with casual pints with the jersey on in the College Bar on the Tuesday of Rag Week (2005-2006'ish). It grew slowly over a few years and a few Donegal visitors down for Rag Week wanted to join but the NUIG College Bar had security on during the day and were getting strict on student IDs. So the session got moved into town.

I for one support our students celebrating Rag Week, and The Hole In The Wall for giving them an event that they look forward to each year.

These students are going to be joining the work force over the next few years. Let them go crazy every now and again. Generally, they're well behaved, and you see adults make just as much of a mess during Race Week

BobbyBobberson

J o e wrote: »

Nope, it started with casual pints with the jersey on in the College Bar on the Tuesday of Rag Week (2005-2006'ish). It grew slowly over a few years and a few Donegal visitors down for Rag Week wanted to join but the NUIG College Bar had security on during the day and were getting strict on student IDs. So the session got moved into town.

Nope, wrong again. Anyway it is aside from the point of the thread so will leave it.

joeKel73

BobbyBobberson wrote: »

Nope, wrong again. Anyway it is aside from the point of the thread so will leave it.

I'm from Donegal and was in NUIG throughout the time it grew. I wasn't involved in the initial gatherings (or it's growth) but have fellow and mutual Donegal friends that were. 100% didn't start in Hole in the Wall... they picked it up just like they picked up the Christmas Day session.

BobbyBobberson

J o e wrote: »

I'm from Donegal and was in NUIG throughout the time it grew. I wasn't involved in the initial gatherings (or it's growth) but have fellow and mutual Donegal friends that were. 100% didn't start in Hole in the Wall... they picked it up just like they picked up the Christmas Day session.

Joe you are wrong, I would just leave it like I said. You are welcome to PM if it is rattling you that much.

joeKel73

Not rattled at all , discussing Donegal Tuesday on a Donegal Tuesday thread seems fairly well on topic!

Was walking past a very quiet Sliding Rock last night. Was thinking how much it's changed from when the queues used to be at the River Inn and they used to strip out their furniture and sell cans for the week, until it was closed down by Gardai in the afternoons.

Fitz*

The worst thing about RAG week now, as opposed to 'my day', is there is actually no Raising And Giving, that I am aware of anyways.

I would like to suggest that anyone attending Donegal Tuesday events would throw some coins into a bucket that would be passed onto some local charities, but I'm kind of afraid that pubs would just take advantage of this and turn it into a cover charge and negate the idea of the charity donation.

Smegging hell

The charity aspect went by the wayside when the college and the SU washed their hands of Rag Week, I can't see them officially recognising it again anytime soon.

Galway locals were complaining about rag week and UCG student drunkenness in the 1930s if not before so the town versus gown tensions go back a long way!

xckjoo

Smegging hell wrote: »

The charity aspect went by the wayside when the college and the SU washed their hands of Rag Week, I can't see them officially recognising it again anytime soon.

Galway locals were complaining about rag week and UCG student drunkenness in the 1930s if not before so the town versus gown tensions go back a long way!

Yup. The approach they took was irresponsible and removed all remnants of charitable giving. It's not going to be officially endorsed again either.

What about the publicans stepping up to bridge the charity gap? Apparently they used to donate profits from RAG week to charity back in the 70's. They could at least chip it to pay for phone booth cleaning

Zzippy

xckjoo wrote: »

Yup. The approach they took was irresponsible and removed all remnants of charitable giving. It's not going to be officially endorsed again either.

What about the publicans stepping up to bridge the charity gap? Apparently they used to donate profits from RAG week to charity back in the 70's. They could at least chip it to pay for phone booth cleaning

Phone booth? What's that now?