Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Missus first bike

Comments

  • #2
    Peanut2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Peanut2011


    In my opinion Hornet or Bandit. The other two have more fairings which would be expensive to replace if they break.

    My first bike was Bandit. I loved it and found it very easy to work on.


  • #3
    IrishGrimReaper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭IrishGrimReaper


    https://www.donedeal.ie/motorbikes-for-sale/honda-hornet-600/20896958

    There's another pretty yellow hornet to consider also within the price, even thought she may drop and scatch the ****e out of it :o


  • #4
    macplaxton
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    Peanut2011 wrote: »
    The other two have more fairings which would be expensive to replace if they break.

    Well the Suzuki advertised has, because it is an S version with the half fairing.

    A non-S doesn't have a fairing. The handlebar/footpeg positions are different too.

    (The other three have too many cylinders :P)


  • #5
    macplaxton
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    honda boi wrote: »
    Getting the missus her first bike

    How tall or how short?


  • #6
    honda boi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭honda boi


    Ye less fairings would mean less damage but if they cracked I wouldn't be fixing it anyway :p
    Insurance wise there's not much separating them.
    She's 4ft 11 :p
    That yellow hornet is quite nice.
    Kids love it because it's bumblebees colour!!!


  • Advertisement
  • #7
    Max Headroom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    Wimmin on bikes....fcuk sake, what next..:rolleyes:




















    :D


  • #8
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Fazer 600 for me. Girl in work has one. Light upright riding position and reliable . Win on all counts.


  • #9
    dbas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭dbas


    Fazer 600 is my first bike. Coming up on a year now. Doing 80 mile a day on it these days. Very reliable machine. Never let me down


  • #10
    macplaxton
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    honda boi wrote: »
    She's 4ft 11 :p

    With her hands in the air? :pac:

    I'd maybe look again at that list and be ready to hack the seat about with a Stanley knife. From lightest to lardiest is SV / Hornet / Fazer / Bandit. Lowest seat height is Fazer followed by the rest.

    I think she might want to sit on a few others to see what fits.

    Dare I say a 400 might be better size-wise.


  • #11
    zubair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    Had a hornet and a SV and would take the hornet over the SV. It's a better bike. But I think a cbf600 would suit your missus better than any of them because the seat height is lower, the power band is more limear and its more comfortable to ride than any of the bikes on the list.


  • Advertisement
  • #12
    fatbast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭fatbast


    Just got first bike for wife, it's a 11 reg Suzuki sfv650 gladius . Low seat height fairly light naked bike. was looking at hornet 600 08 but a bit too fast and much higher insurance


  • #13
    CorkCBR6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭CorkCBR6


    Honda Bros is a brilliant bike for the smaller person.

    Cheap as chips and very reliable! Insurance companies like them too


  • #14
    MSVforever
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭MSVforever


    fatbast wrote: »
    Just got first bike for wife, it's a 11 reg Suzuki sfv650 gladius . Low seat height fairly light naked bike. was looking at hornet 600 08 but a bit too fast and much higher insurance

    +1
    SV650 is a nice bike with a great engine. Enough power throughout the Rev range.


  • #15
    honda boi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭honda boi


    Want to get her on a 600cc,something that can be used for the full test.
    Had a Honda bros 400 meself a few years ago meself,bulletproof it was but wanted something with more umph not long after getting it :p.
    I suppose I'll have to go see a few bikes with her and get her to sit on them and see as she is quite small.

    Be fairly awkward going to view a bike ,she hops on and it's too big and looking at the seller and going nope without even starting the thing :p.
    And my god some of the photos or lack of photos people put up amazes me!


  • #16
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    My SO is petite too - just delivered her bike to it's new (also a lady) owner today in fact.

    This was her......5th bike. What I've learned is that seat height is only one component. Width of the seat plays much a part in choice of bike.

    For those modest of inseam - male or female - the suitable bike is actually a combination of the two.

    For this reason narrow bikes like singles and v-twins work well.

    So the Gladius or SV, BMW F, or others similar will all work. I don't think the 4-inline work for a 4'11" imho.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #17
    jmreire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,794 ✭✭✭jmreire


    honda boi wrote: »
    Looking for some boards wisdom.
    Getting the missus her first bike and narrowed it down to between 4 bikes.
    Sv 650
    https://www.donedeal.ie/motorbikes-for-sale/sv650/20678572
    Honda hornet 600
    https://www.donedeal.ie/motorbikes-for-sale/honda-hornet-600/20788875
    Yamaha Fazer 600
    https://www.donedeal.ie/motorbikes-for-sale/fazer-600/20996058
    Suzuki bandit 600
    https://www.donedeal.ie/motorbikes-for-sale/suzuki-bandit-600/20716087

    I know all of these are fairly robust but any experiences or opinion on these?
    Want something that's reliable , couldn't care how it looks or extras as I guarantee she will drop it,so want something that will get A to B.
    Hoping to keep it under €2000.

    Honda boi, I am thinking also about getting a bike again. I had a Honda 50 many years ago ( but stupidly, did not get the "Full" licence at the time, which would have been relatively easy back then ) So your missus is only 4'11" in height ( good good's come in small parcels ;) ) and it will be her 1st bike.? Fair play to her ( and to you too for helping her ) I guess she must be crazy about bike's??? So she ( like me) will be on the same path regarding licence? Computer test for permit, then X nr of hours with professional biking instructor, then eventually driving test? I'm not that tall myself either, to make matters worse..so I'm very interested in how your Missus get's on. Has she test driven one yet? If she can do it.... no reason why I can't. Only one's I have been near lately were only 125's,, so easy to manage. A friend who is an avid biker, wanted to sell me an KTM850... I would have needed a high footpath to climb on to it, and another one for the landing. So while that one was out... maybe one like the 600-650's you are looking at might be better and easier for me to manage. Good Luck with it, and keep us posted on whats happening and how ye get on, OK?:D


  • #18
    Blanchy90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Blanchy90


    I'd be surprised if the sv was suitable... I got mine as they have a higher seating position than many 600's.

    Im 6foot 4 and the sv felt grand where the bandit felt tiny
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDsaagYfEyTnhg-r209RCbQ?sub_confirmation=1




  • #19
    GBX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,134 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Had a Fazer 600 before, great bike to learn on.


  • #20
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Blanchy90 wrote: »
    I'd be surprised if the sv was suitable... I got mine as they have a higher seating position than many 600's.

    Im 6foot 4 and the sv felt grand where the bandit felt tiny

    You can lower an SV very easily and cheaply if needed.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #21
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Little bit out there, and maybe slightly biased.

    Seeing as she's quite short, would perhaps something like a Honda Shadow be out of the question? Good low cruiser bikes are handy for newer riders, better centre of gravity and a Shadow or Rebel isn't a heavy bike.


  • Advertisement
  • #22
    CBRLizzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭CBRLizzie


    Blanchy90 wrote: »
    I'd be surprised if the sv was suitable... I got mine as they have a higher seating position than many 600's.

    Im 6foot 4 and the sv felt grand where the bandit felt tiny

    I'm 5 foot 2 on an SV, had it lowered and wear New Rocks, am fine on it. Its the weight of some bikes that I have more of a problem with, SV is nice and light. Used to have a CBR600, didn't realise how heavy it was until getting the SV.

    Best of luck with the bike search Honda boi


  • #23
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    honda boi wrote: »
    I suppose I'll have to go see a few bikes with her and get her to sit on them and see as she is quite small.

    Exactly what I'd suggest. Go to bikeworld or somewhere it's easy to sit on a load of different bikes and pick a style. The cruiser style is low, but can have a wide saddle and no protection. Pros and cons with everything, but she needs to be comfortable putting her feet down, especially if she's starting out. Unless she's prepared to do this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6foabj3fh3g


  • #24
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    CBRLizzie wrote: »
    I'm 5 foot 2 on an SV, had it lowered and wear New Rocks, am fine on it. Its the weight of some bikes that I have more of a problem with, SV is nice and light. Used to have a CBR600, didn't realise how heavy it was until getting the SV.

    Best of luck with the bike search Honda boi

    Do you find, as my SO did, that if you fill the petrol tank that the weight up top is noticeable ? for that reason she only ever half-filled it - claims it made a difference.

    The F BMW's (800's) have the tank under the seat, which I suspect helps too.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #25
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Little bit out there, and maybe slightly biased.

    Seeing as she's quite short, would perhaps something like a Honda Shadow be out of the question? Good low cruiser bikes are handy for newer riders, better centre of gravity and a Shadow or Rebel isn't a heavy bike.

    I wouldn't put my wife on a cruiser.

    No offense but I'd want her as high as possible with great visibility. No cruiser offers that.

    I have one in the garage. For me they are never learner bikes.


  • #26
    CBRLizzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭CBRLizzie


    No, I've never found petrol making a difference, but definitely notice if I put on weight I'm more able to reach the ground :D:D


  • #27
    professore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    listermint wrote: »
    Fazer 600 for me. Girl in work has one. Light upright riding position and reliable . Win on all counts.

    The girl in work or the bike?


  • #28
    zubair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    CBF600, won't regret it. I'm repeating myself now.


  • #29
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    listermint wrote: »
    I wouldn't put my wife on a cruiser.

    No offense but I'd want her as high as possible with great visibility. No cruiser offers that.

    I have one in the garage. For me they are never learner bikes.


    If you're only tall enough for a cruiser, the point is moot really.

    And a cruiser from a visibility perspective is actually very good: you sit straight and can look left/right easier than on, say, an SV.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #30
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    galwaytt wrote: »
    If you're only tall enough for a cruiser, the point is moot really.

    And a cruiser from a visibility perspective is actually very good: you sit straight and can look left/right easier than on, say, an SV.

    Its not though, I have one in the garage. It offers no were near the visibility of an upright position bike. Its simply not comparable in any world.


  • Advertisement
  • #31
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    listermint wrote: »
    Its not though, I have one in the garage. It offers no were near the visibility of an upright position bike. Its simply not comparable in any world.

    I'd still go for a cruiser. Visibility isn't bad, looking over your shoulder is way easier but getting your feet on the ground with some confidence is vital. You won't be filtering through traffic just yet, you'll probably be staying with traffic or going out for spins, being a bit higher isn't that big a deal imho


  • #32
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    listermint wrote: »
    Its not though, I have one in the garage. It offers no were near the visibility of an upright position bike. Its simply not comparable in any world.

    An SV isn't an upright position bike by any stretch though: a cruiser you sit vertical, so how you make the opposite out slightly escapes me tbh.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #33
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Height.


  • #34
    antiskeptic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭antiskeptic


    Never kind keen on cruisers. The very low slung weight doesn't transfer onto the front wheel like a "normal" bike. The tendency to push the front wheel along the ground when braking rather than causing it to dig in.

    A bit like those stepthru's of years back whose front suspension design threw the nose upwards on braking - just what you didn't want the front doing.


  • #35
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    antiskeptic wrote: »
    Never kind keen on cruisers. The very low slung weight doesn't transfer onto the front wheel like a "normal" bike. The tendency to push the front wheel along the ground when braking rather than causing it to dig in.

    A bit like those stepthru's of years back whose front suspension design threw the nose upwards on braking - just what you didn't want the front doing.

    Sorry, and although I have non-cruisers too, but the grip available on a cruiser on modern tyres, usually exceeds the abilities of the people riding them. You can throw a cruiser around if you know how to. It's all about skills and training- it's not a limit of the bike, and certainly not on the public road in normal usage.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #36
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    galwaytt wrote: »
    Sorry, and although I have non-cruisers too, but the grip available on a cruiser on modern tyres, usually exceeds the abilities of the people riding them. You can throw a cruiser around if you know how to. It's all about skills and training- it's not a limit of the bike, and certainly not on the public road in normal usage.

    Cruisers have no maneuverability
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9MVY8swO5M


  • Advertisement
  • #37
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Cruisers have no maneuverability
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9MVY8swO5M

    Lolz : I've actually gone to the US and did a course with this guy: best €150 I ever spent.

    https://www.ridelikeapro.com/

    So, I'm inclined to throw my H-D around all the time now :pac::pac:

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #38
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    galwaytt wrote: »
    Lolz : I've actually gone to the US and did a course with this guy: best €150 I ever spent.

    https://www.ridelikeapro.com/

    So, I'm inclined to throw my H-D around all the time now :pac::pac:

    Ah is that him?

    I just watched some of his videos there, absolutely amazing stuff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04vkgVnJBhQ


  • #39
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Ah is that him?

    I just watched some of his videos there, absolutely amazing stuff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04vkgVnJBhQ

    Yep, thats 'Motorman' Jerry. Nice guy. He has a sidekick - also Gerry - who's gifted.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #40
    antiskeptic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭antiskeptic


    galwaytt wrote: »
    Sorry, and although I have non-cruisers too, but the grip available on a cruiser on modern tyres, usually exceeds the abilities of the people riding them. You can throw a cruiser around if you know how to. It's all about skills and training- it's not a limit of the bike, and certainly not on the public road in normal usage.

    The context was a missus' first bike. All else being equal, a normal bike will tend to transfer weight onto the front tyre during breaking better than a low engined cruiser. Which suits a first timer.

    It's not so much a matter of opinion as it is a matter of the location of the centre of mass. That mass is aimed down onto the front contact patch in the case of a normal street bike. Tending to scrub the tyre along the road in the case of a cruiser.

    Things don't change as you advance upward in skill. Certainly, a cruiser on modern tyres is going to perform well in capable hands. Nevertheless, if it comes to standing the bike up on it's nose in the wet under breaking, a normal bike will do it better.

    And so, for the capable hand in an emergency braking situation, the normal bike offers the better braking performance.

    All else being equal


Advertisement