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How to read new oven temperature dial

  • 03-02-2019 1:23pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭


    See attached pic. Is 200:the dot before/ after/ on the 200. Significant other and I cannot agree. Things have burned ...


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    73trix wrote: »
    See attached pic. Is 200:the dot before/ after/ on the 200. Significant other and I cannot agree. Things have burned ...

    The oven is set to above 200 in my opinion. It’s hard to read accurately because it’s a very poor design, but I’d guess that it’s at about 210/215. To set at 200, I’d aim for right in the middle of the “200”.

    Seems like you should get an oven thermometer to save the confusion. It would be very useful given the difficulty with accurately setting a temperature with that dial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Each white dot is the number beside it.

    So work from 250 back and you are 250, 200, 150 etc.

    So for example in-between these will be say 160-170-180-190.....

    Where it's at in the picture is around the 180 mark.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    That oven is off...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    That oven is off...

    The white dot is what tells whether it's on or off or at what settings.

    These are a very widely used by LL as they are very cheap cookers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,721 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Faith wrote: »
    73trix wrote: »
    See attached pic. Is 200:the dot before/ after/ on the 200. Significant other and I cannot agree. Things have burned ...

    The oven is set to above 200 in my opinion. It’s hard to read accurately because it’s a very poor design, but I’d guess that it’s at about 210/215. To set at 200, I’d aim for right in the middle of the “200”.

    Seems like you should get an oven thermometer to save the confusion. It would be very useful given the difficulty with accurately setting a temperature with that dial.
    Faith wrote: »
    73trix wrote: »
    See attached pic. Is 200:the dot before/ after/ on the 200. Significant other and I cannot agree. Things have burned ...

    The oven is set to above 200 in my opinion. It’s hard to read accurately because it’s a very poor design, but I’d guess that it’s at about 210/215. To set at 200, I’d aim for right in the middle of the “200”.

    Seems like you should get an oven thermometer to save the confusion. It would be very useful given the difficulty with accurately setting a temperature with that dial.
    I’d say it’s set for 175. The white dot is the temperature the writing says


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Each white dot is the number beside it.

    Where it's at in the picture is around the 180 mark.
    +1, what makes me sure is that if the position was to be central then if it was turned fully on it would be getting to 275C which is extremely unlikely. So turn to the most extreme state and it would be 250C.
    That oven is off...
    I thought so too at first, due to the line, but the lights are on and if you turn the pic sideways and see the little dot it will become more clear what is going on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    I'd call the '200' the 200 and the dot above it 225.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    I'd call the '200' the 200 and the dot above it 225.
    following that logic do you think it goes to 275C?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    We recently got a new cooker and it wasn’t immediately clear. So I got out a digital thermometer, stuck in the oven and adjusted the dial until I understood it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,229 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    rubadub wrote: »
    following that logic do you think it goes to 275C?

    Why not?
    Mine does.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,520 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Each white dot is the number beside it.

    That makes no sense, there is a dot at the beginning and end of the scale. The dots obviously represent the mid points between the indicated numbers - 75, 125, 175 etc.

    By your logic, what do the first and last dots on the scale represent?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    rubadub wrote: »
    following that logic do you think it goes to 275C?

    Yep I'd say so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    coylemj wrote: »
    That makes no sense, there is a dot at the beginning and end of the scale. The dots obviously represent the mid points between the indicated numbers - 75, 125, 175 etc.

    By your logic, what do the first and last dots on the scale represent?

    Self explanatory to be honest the 1st dot is 50......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Why not?
    Mine does.
    I have never used or heard of an oven that went to 275C. But looking online I see they do.

    I would have thought the max temp would have been listed on the dial. Is you dial like there one?

    Reading the OP again they are saying stuff burned, so could well be going to 275C, (i.e. they set to 225C thinking it is 200C)

    If the OP gave the model number or a better pic it could be looked up.

    You can test the oven temp using sugar, it will brown at a particular temp, loads of youtube guides about it.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Each white dot is the number beside it.

    .
    I'd call the '200' the 200 and the dot above it 225.

    I was reading it the same as OldMrBrennan, because you’d need something to mark a midway point if you’re only writing in 50 degree increments. But if the white dot does correspond with the writing, then that’s an even worse design than I first thought.

    My oven goes to 270, I think, so I can’t see why the oven couldn’t go to 275.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,520 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    My oven goes to 270 C


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭73trix


    Now I'm really confused as there's such a difference in opinion. I've never seen a dial like it! Didn't notice it when buying the cooker of course!

    I might call DID electrical and quote the model.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    73trix wrote: »
    Now I'm really confused as there's such a difference in opinion. I've never seen a dial like it! Didn't notice it when buying the cooker of course!

    I might call DID electrical and quote the model.

    I've had these in rentals and I may be right in saying not fan assisted or if it is it ain't great as them dials are extremely familiar to me.

    Stuff would burn real easy too.

    The way it works is you see light simple, next one is grill then once turned after that it's oven all the way.

    It may well turn that bit extra after the last dot which is the 250 mark.

    Fan assisted oven with better dials is a must if it's going to be used a lot.

    The hop rings tend to be extremely hot for quite some time after if it's the one I had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,705 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Dunno how people are seeing it as below 200, it's obviously beyond 200c, not much but it's higher
    I'd expect the 200 to be directly centered under the dot for it to be 200


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,520 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    The suggestion that the user is supposed to figure out that to set it to 200, you set the dial to the dot either before or after 200 is completely barmy.

    OP, quote the make and model here please. And don't bother phoning DID, their priority will be to get rid of you so they will say what they think you want to hear.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    73trix wrote: »
    Now I'm really confused as there's such a difference in opinion. I've never seen a dial like it! Didn't notice it when buying the cooker of course!

    Did you buy it new? Just from your picture, it looks like it might be second hand, which has an impact as well as older ovens can be more prone to running at the incorrect temperature from the setting on the dial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,229 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    rubadub wrote: »

    I would have thought the max temp would have been listed on the dial. Is you dial like there one?

    .

    Mine is marked up to 275
    Electrolux


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭73trix


    coylemj wrote: »
    The suggestion that the user is supposed to figure out that to set it to 200, you set the dial to the dot either before or after 200 is completely barmy.

    OP, quote the make and model here please. And don't bother phoning DID, their priority will be to get rid of you so they will say what they think you want to hear.

    Here it is. Oven is new.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,489 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    User manual for that doesn't give any useful information in that regard.

    Easiest way is just to get an oven thermometer, I saw a Kitchenaid one the other day for 6.99, and test it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,721 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Dunno how people are seeing it as below 200, it's obviously beyond 200c, not much but it's higher
    I'd expect the 200 to be directly centered under the dot for it to be 200
    Dunno how you think it’s over 200. Each for clearly represents the preceding label


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,229 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    ted1 wrote: »
    Dunno how you think it’s over 200. Each for clearly represents the preceding label

    Nothing about that dial is clear.
    To me each dot is a midway point between the numbers but I wouldn't claim that to be clear or obvious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,721 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Op put a pot of water in the oven set to mid 100. Leave it, then set it to the white dot after 100 and it’ll start to boil ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,705 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    ted1 wrote: »
    Dunno how you think it’s over 200. Each for clearly represents the preceding label

    Each square represents 25c increments, starts from 75 being the min and 275 max
    I have never seen an oven, like these types, where the increment counters meant anything other than markers for increments between the written temps.
    Would be just stupid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,242 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    That photo needs to be rotated to the left.Looking straight at the cooker the light is usually at the bottom right of the dial.Read temp as follows,75c,100c,125c,150c,175c,200c,225c,250c,275c.The dots are the 75c,125c etc.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭73trix


    That makes the most sense! Thanks all. :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    73trix wrote: »
    Now I'm really confused as there's such a difference in opinion.
    you should be less confused, its not like a 4th idea was suggested. At the start you were not sure and offered 3 suggestions, only 2 were seen as plausible, if the 200 was the dot before it would suggest the temp went to 300C.
    fritzelly wrote: »
    Dunno how people are seeing it as below 200
    coylemj wrote: »
    The suggestion that the user is supposed to figure out that to set it to 200, you set the dial to the dot either before or after 200 is completely barmy.
    I thought it was explained logically fairly well :confused:

    Alun wrote: »
    User manual for that doesn't give any useful information in that regard.
    Strangely the manual does not explicitly say the max temp. It does say

    To support the self-cleaning procedure, heat
    the empty oven on a regular basis.
    1. Clean the oven floor with warm water and
    washing up liquid, then dry it.
    2. Set the oven temperature to 250 °C and let
    the oven operate for 1 hour.
    3. When the appliance is cool, clean it with a
    soft and moist sponge.


    I know my BBQ said to set to max temp to clean it, not sure about household ovens. Maybe those that go to 275C do recommend a cleaning temp of just 250C but I thought it would have been max to burn stuff off.

    At first I said I logically did not think it went to 275C as I had not heard of any regular oven going that high, but now know some do. So I was then fairly 50/50, but seeing the cleaning temp I am back thinking it is more likely 250C, but am open to be turned again if those with 275C ovens have 250C cleaning recommendations. (could well be a fire hazard or something)

    The initial cleaning instructions do say to go to max temp (again not explicitly saying what it is)

    Initial Cleaning
    Remove all accessories from the appliance.
    Refer to "Care and cleaning"
    chapter.
    Clean the appliance and the accessories before
    first use.
    Put the accessories back to their initial position.
    Preheating
    Preheat the empty appliance before first use.
    Preheat the two ovens. Heat up one
    oven at a time.
    1. Set the maximum temperature.
    2. Let the appliance operate for 1 hour.
    3. Set the function .
    4. Let the appliance operate for 15 minutes.
    Accessories can become hotter than usual. The
    appliance can emit an odour and smoke. This is
    normal. Make sure that the airflow is sufficient.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,242 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    Turning the dial as far it will go gives max temp.
    I have a Hotpoint at present ,it has 20 degree segments starting at 80c and going to 240c.I do quite a bit of cooking on it mostly in the 180c-200c range,so I am very familiar with reading those temp dials.I never refer to the manual to clean it,just use common sense.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    73trix wrote: »
    That makes the most sense! Thanks all. :-)

    Definitely get an oven thermometer to put it to bed for once and for all ;). Given that it's new, I'd be more included to think it does go up to 275, but I also see Rubadub's point about the cleaning setting. All ovens tend to vary a bit in temperature anyway, so a thermometer will help you get the best understanding of that exact oven.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    What a disasterous design.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,242 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    A bit of elbow grease for cleaning,it's a cooker,not a NASA rocket.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,721 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Faith wrote: »
    Definitely get an oven thermometer to put it to bed for once and for all ;). Given that it's new, I'd be more included to think it does go up to 275, but I also see Rubadub's point about the cleaning setting. All ovens tend to vary a bit in temperature anyway, so a thermometer will help you get the best understanding of that exact oven.

    Or just try boiling water


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    ted1 wrote: »
    Or just try boiling water

    All that will tell you is the oven is at or above 100 degrees. If you’re trying to bake a cake at 180, that’s not much use to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    The sugar tests will also let you figure out where hot/cold spots are in the oven.

    IMG_1400.JPG


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