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Gardai stage 3 : can they ask if you've visited a third party for prep

  • 29-01-2019 1:57pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭


    Long time lurker first time poster guys 👋. Had the stage 3 interview this morning, fairly certain I've failed.

    i was asked at the end by chairperson did I go to a third party for interview prep.

    Is this an acceptable qeustion? Or is it grounds for an appeal.

    Just wondering, I wasn't offended but a little thrown off by it, kinda clutching at straws in hopes of a resit probably better off to leave it and just reapply the next time?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭MrBlack93


    Not a chance that'd be grounds for an appeal. Straightforward question and maybe it was a subtle hint that you should've did more preparation for the interview


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭vespahead


    MrBlack93 wrote: »
    Not a chance that'd be grounds for an appeal. Straightforward question and maybe it was a subtle hint that you should've did more preparation for the interview

    Yep understood what was meant by it ðŸ‘ðŸ‘. As I said clutching at straws and half knew the answer before I asked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    vespahead wrote: »
    Long time lurker first time poster guys ��. Had the stage 3 interview this morning, fairly certain I've failed.

    i was asked at the end by chairperson did I go to a third party for interview prep.

    Is this an acceptable qeustion? Or is it grounds for an appeal.

    Just wondering, I wasn't offended but a little thrown off by it, kinda clutching at straws in hopes of a resit probably better off to leave it and just reapply the next time?

    They can ask this, to see what you say under pressure. What did you answer to this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    I was asked the same. Forgot I'd actually done one. Said no first then said actually I did. They must've thought I was telling a fib but I actually forgot I did an online one. Ha.

    On your case. You should try and relax until you get your result. A lot of people come out of those interviews thinking the same thing. Did they tell you when you'd hear? I'm waiting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    CZ 453 wrote: »
    I was asked the same. Forgot I'd actually done one. Said no first then said actually I did. They must've thought I was telling a fib but I actually forgot I did an online one. Ha.

    On your case. You should try and relax until you get your result. A lot of people come out of those interviews thinking the same thing. Did they tell you when you'd hear? I'm waiting.

    Yeah I agree, a lot of people think they fail it, but they actually pass it. I was one of them and scored well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭vespahead


    paddyCPW wrote: »
    They can ask this, to see what you say under pressure. What did you answer to this?

    I said I had, I did hesitate though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    vespahead wrote: »
    I said I had, I did hesitate though

    You'll be fine, don't worry about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭vespahead


    CZ 453 wrote: »
    I was asked the same. Forgot I'd actually done one. Said no first then said actually I did. They must've thought I was telling a fib but I actually forgot I did an online one. Ha.

    On your case. You should try and relax until you get your result. A lot of people come out of those interviews thinking the same thing. Did they tell you when you'd hear? I'm waiting.

    I was very close to saying no, I'd say they well know who has and hasn't by the consistency of answers and sure it would only show you are going through extra expense/effort if you have.


    Didn't tell me when I'd hear or not, trying to not over think that aswell.

    Was told that it could be as soon as Friday from another person


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    vespahead wrote: »
    I was very close to saying no, I'd say they well know who has and hasn't by the consistency of answers and sure it would only show you are going through extra expense/effort if you have.


    Didn't tell me when I'd hear or not, trying to not over think that aswell.

    Was told that it could be as soon as Friday from another person

    Generally you hear back within 2 weeks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Irishman87545


    Yeah he could have asked out of curiosity , possibly alot of your interview answers are structured similar to anyone else whose done the prep course.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Carles Puyol


    There's no way I'd be answering yes to that question in the interview, true or not.

    Let me just preface this by saying don't assume you've failed until you know for certain. It's natural for most people to think they've done worse than they did.
    As for your query, I don't think it would be grounds for an appeal unless you could show/claim it biased the examiner in any way. But if it was at the end of the interview they probably had you graded already so more than likely a futile exercise.

    Tbh, even if you do fail I wouldn't appeal unless you're over 35. If you are unsuccessful, learn from your mistakes and apply again this year. All the indications are that there will be another recruitment campaign in the coming months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Holeymoley11


    Keep the head up! You prob passed! and if not don't let it get to you
    I failed the first time on the interview and it motivated me even more going into the 2nd time as you know
    exactly what your up against!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 203 ✭✭bottar1


    I don't think it's an unfair question. I don't think they would judge you if you had. Most people do prepare for interviews and if anything that's a good thing that you took things seriously, really wanted something and took all the opportunities to increase your chances...

    No point dwelling on it now, just wait for results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    vespahead wrote: »
    Long time lurker first time poster guys ��. Had the stage 3 interview this morning, fairly certain I've failed.

    i was asked at the end by chairperson did I go to a third party for interview prep.

    Is this an acceptable qeustion? Or is it grounds for an appeal.

    Just wondering, I wasn't offended but a little thrown off by it, kinda clutching at straws in hopes of a resit probably better off to leave it and just reapply the next time?

    Did you get your result today? Some did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 TR 2525


    CZ 453 wrote: »
    Did you get your result today? Some did.

    Results are out. Passed it thank god 😊


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    TR 2525 wrote: »
    Results are out. Passed it thank god ��

    Congrats. Looks like a good few months for the next stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 TR 2525


    CZ 453 wrote: »
    Congrats. Looks like a good few months for the next stage.

    Hopefully it won’t be too long. It’s hard to know. All we can do is wait to hear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭Henry2006


    TR 2525 wrote: »
    Results are out. Passed it thank god 😊

    My daughter passed too. This is her second time as failed the pct in September 2016. I think the format is different this time, is the medical first or pct ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Holeymoley11


    Henry2006 wrote: »
    My daughter passed too. This is her second time as failed the pct in September 2016. I think the format is different this time, is the medical first or pct ?


    Same as myself failing in 2016! tell her congrats!

    I did medical first then about 2-3 months PCT

    Make sure BMI be under 30 and you will be graaand!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Texmex


    Henry2006 wrote: »
    My daughter passed too. This is her second time as failed the pct in September 2016. I think the format is different this time, is the medical first or pct ?

    Physical first then medical. Congrats to your daughter.ðŸ˜


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 TR 2525


    Texmex wrote: »
    Physical first then medical. Congrats to your daughter.ðŸ˜

    If you fail the physical do you have to start again from the beginning or can you retake the physical in the next group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Texmex


    TR 2525 wrote: »
    If you fail the physical do you have to start again from the beginning or can you retake the physical in the next group.

    You get to retake the physical, usually within 3 months of failing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭Henry2006


    Texmex wrote: »
    Physical first then medical. Congrats to your daughter.ðŸ˜

    Thanks a mill, last time it was the medical first


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭Henry2006


    Same as myself failing in 2016! tell her congrats!

    I did medical first then about 2-3 months PCT

    Make sure BMI be under 30 and you will be graaand!

    Thanks a mill, great you have those behind you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Holeymoley11


    Henry2006 wrote: »
    Thanks a mill, great you have those behind you

    Just a note I think someone up above said it was physical first then medical I dont know if they changed that? I did the medical first and im thinking it would make more sense to do a medical ( to see if you are Healthy) to do the physical


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Texmex


    Just a note I think someone up above said it was physical first then medical I dont know if they changed that? I did the medical first and im thinking it would make more sense to do a medical ( to see if you are Healthy) to do the physical

    Yep that was me. They changed it this year to physical first then medical. You also need to get a form signed by your Gp to ensure that you are fit for the physical. So form for Gp is sent to you first, then a few weeks later you get date for physical, then medical. :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Holeymoley11


    Texmex wrote: »
    Yep that was me. They changed it this year to physical first then medical. You also need to get a form signed by your Gp to ensure that you are fit for the physical. So form for Gp is sent to you first, then a few weeks later you get date for physical, then medical. :-)

    Ahhh that's interesting enough! didn't know that! More red tape tho :cool:
    and have you everything complete yourself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Texmex


    Ahhh that's interesting enough! didn't know that! More red tape tho :cool:
    and have you everything complete yourself?

    Physical coming up next week. Things are moving pretty quickly this campaign (for me anyway) . Hopefully it keeps going that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭Henry2006


    Texmex wrote: »
    Yep that was me. They changed it this year to physical first then medical. You also need to get a form signed by your Gp to ensure that you are fit for the physical. So form for Gp is sent to you first, then a few weeks later you get date for physical, then medical. :-)

    Thanks for that, I did think it was different this campaign. She had everything done in September 2016 vetting completed, met with super etc but failed on the beep test so had to start right back at the beginning so knows she will really need to work on fitness this time


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Holeymoley11


    Texmex wrote: »
    Physical coming up next week. Things are moving pretty quickly this campaign (for me anyway) . Hopefully it keeps going that way.

    Ah great stuff!! best of luck!! had my phsy in Dec wasn't too bad!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭Henry2006


    Texmex wrote: »
    Physical coming up next week. Things are moving pretty quickly this campaign (for me anyway) . Hopefully it keeps going that way.

    Very best of luck with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Texmex


    Ah great stuff!! best of luck!! had my phsy in Dec wasn't too bad!

    Thank you! Not looking forward to it. Can you remember how long the day took for the physical?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Texmex


    Ah great stuff!! best of luck!! had my phsy in Dec wasn't too bad!

    Thank you! Not looking forward to it. Can you remember how long the day took for the physical?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Holeymoley11


    Texmex wrote: »
    Thank you! Not looking forward to it. Can you remember how long the day took for the physical?

    I was in there for 9am , first section was beep push/sits ups
    so everyone finished about 11am then about an hour break
    then your over for the pushpull and obstacle course id say i was on the road about 1 or half 1

    I did it first time and failed as I had far to travel and drove down on the day and I had to re do it and I stayed near the town the night before and this helped me hugely with extra rest and adrenaline i did better then i taught i ever did


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Texmex


    I was in there for 9am , first section was beep push/sits ups
    so everyone finished about 11am then about an hour break
    then your over for the pushpull and obstacle course id say i was on the road about 1 or half 1

    I did it first time and failed as I had far to travel and drove down on the day and I had to re do it and I stayed near the town the night before and this helped me hugely with extra rest and adrenaline i did better then i taught i ever did

    That's great thank you and well done on passing yourself!


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