ulster v racing

Former Former

2smiggy wrote: »

Good on him, calling out the racism in ulster rugby.

Except he's not.

He's gone just far enough to make the story about himself but not far enough to achieve anything.

Much like his international career I suppose.

bilston

munsterlegend wrote: »

Booing an Irish rugby player in Ireland. As low as it gets from degenerates.

As an Ulster fan it definitely didn't sit well with me at all.

I don't know about the racist side of things. It's not entirely clear that is what Zebo is referencing. But that's why I think it's essential Ulster are pro active and contact to clarify what he thinks was said and then to act accordingly.

munsterlegend

bilston wrote: »

As an Ulster fan it definitely didn't sit well with me at all.

I don't know about the racist side of things. It's not entirely clear that is what Zebo is referencing. But that's why I think it's essential Ulster are pro active and contact to clarify what he thinks was said and then to act accordingly.

I agree it’s not 100% clear but it’s more than just boos he referenced but comments. The fact he mentions Django certainly makes it look they were racist in nature.

2smiggy

Former Former wrote: »

Except he's not.

He's gone just far enough to make the story about himself but not far enough to achieve anything.

Much like his international career I suppose.

He left for money, and what's wrong with that. I'd do the same

mfceiling

Former Former wrote: »

Except he's not.

He's gone just far enough to make the story about himself but not far enough to achieve anything.

Much like his international career I suppose.

Agree.

Call it out or stfu. There's no place for racism anywhere be it on the street, the workplace or at a sports stadium. If you don't make a stand or call it out then you're not too bothered by it. Less of the "cryptic" crying on social media....if there was racist comments please make a proper complaint about it and get this crap nipped in the bud.

Squidgy Black

If it's racism, he needs to call it out and stop with the bullshít drama stirring. There's zero point in him leaving people speculating a serious issue like that.

Squidgy Black

munsterlegend wrote: »

I agree it’s not 100% clear but it’s more than just boos he referenced but comments. The fact he mentions Django certainly makes it look they were racist in nature.

Django was his nickname in the Irish setup. After Jamie Foxx.

Synode

awec wrote: »

If I’m honest I’d probably boo Zebo myself.

Why?

Former Former

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Django was his nickname in the Irish setup. After Jamie Foxx.

A nickname he gave himself, before someone accuses the Irish team of being racist.

munsterlegend

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Django was his nickname in the Irish setup. After Jamie Foxx.

Yes but you must look at the context of his comments. It certainly seems like he is insinuating racism. I think he should clarify as others have said.

Peregrine

I think Stockdale may be the top try scorer in the cup this season. 6 tries so far. Can't find an official table.

bilston

Peregrine wrote: »

I think Stockdale may be the top try scorer in the cup this season. 6 tries so far. Can't find an official table.

He is at the minute (or at least was at 5pm this evening).

awec

Synode wrote: »

Why?

His antics towards Michael Lowry have soured me.

We can forget about him. He’s not an Ireland player and he will never be an Ireland player again.

jacothelad

awec wrote: »

His antics towards Michael Lowry have soured me.

He did make amends afterwards. Even the ref chided him for it. Heat of the moment stuff and not his usual way as he seems to be a great guy. It wasn't classy but there are a lot worse things done on the field that doesn't draw such opprobrium.

Synode

awec wrote: »

His antics towards Michael Lowry have soured me.

We can forget about him. He’s not an Ireland player and he will never be an Ireland player again.

Actually yeah, forgot about that

bilston

awec wrote: »

His antics towards Michael Lowry have soured me.

I get that, but he apologised, Lowry accepted it and I think posted Instagram telling everyone to move on as he had.

I believe he also spoke out on behalf of Paddy Jackson playing in France a while back.

Anyway each to their own, its the not the crime of the century to boo.

But I just hope their wasn't a racist comment. I despise racism so much and I dont want Ulster associated with it in any way at all.

awec

If there was racism anyone involved should be banned for life.

But I’ve no problem with booing. I’d be a hypocrite if I did because I’d be booing along with them.

mfceiling

awec wrote: »

If there was racism anyone involved should be banned for life.

But I’ve no problem with booing. I’d be a hypocrite if I did because I’d be booing along with them.

Yeah the booing for me is pantomime stuff for a crowd. If you want to shout out racist comments then fcuk off with yourself but the booing is like childish carry on adults do for craic.

Buer

2smiggy wrote: »

Back to ure flute playing

If there were racist comments in the crowd, the culprits should be found and banned.

And if any poster makes snide, comments relating to another poster's background with sectarian suggestions, I hope they're treated the same as they're just as bad.

Defunkd

Re: Zebo's tweet - he has gotten plenty of attention from Welsh supporters over the years (mockingly chanting "Zebo!" the way some Munster fans did, after he made a mistake) so i doubt his comment is in relation to the booing.
There is precedent for racial slurs being used by fans at Ravenhill, but usually by one or two. Not trying to say it's endemic.
I've heard anti-English jibes towards players in Thomond, so it goes to show that some folk at games can't control themselves.

bilston

Defunkd wrote: »

There is precedent for racial slurs being used by fans at Ravenhill, but usually by one or two. Not trying to say it's endemic.

There is?

Buer

The only occurrence of supposed racism I recall was friend to all Delon Armitage making a claim in a game between Ulster and LI about a decade ago. Matt McCullough called him a spide and Armitage accused him of calling him a spade.

McCullough was cleared of all charges following a hearing.

munsterlegend

bilston wrote: »

There is?

Yep.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/ulster-fans-accused-of-racist-abuse-1.1299201%3fmode=amp

bilston

Buer wrote: »

The only occurrence of supposed racism I recall was friend to all Delon Armitage making a claim in a game between Ulster and LI about a decade ago. Matt McCullough called him a spide and Armitage accused him of calling him a spade.

McCullough was cleared of all charges following a hearing.

Yeah I wondered if that was what he was referring to

bilston

munsterlegend wrote: »

Yep.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/ulster-fans-accused-of-racist-abuse-1.1299201%3fmode=amp

Fair enough... Although it was 12 years ago, but still as I say I hate racism so if any Ulster fan is guilty of it, ban them for life.

Del.Monte

I was back from the pub for this match - no TV and no stream - had to listen to it on the radio and only just got to see the highlights on YouTube. Stockdale is some man for one man! Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqKZ6JhXmBI

Burkie1203

https://twitter.com/btsportrugby/status/1084133609978716161?s=19

Zzippy

Burkie1203 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/btsportrugby/status/1084133609978716161?s=19

Lol. Is he asleep?

Burkie1203

Zzippy wrote: »

Lol. Is he asleep?

Probably watching netflix

Digifriendly

Watched recording of match having been at the game. How on earth can Austin Healy say that pass to Imhoff near the end of the game (from which Imhoff scored) was not forward? Replays showed it was forward by some way.

Buer

Digifriendly wrote: »

Watched recording of match having been at the game. How on earth can Austin Healy say that pass to Imhoff near the end of the game (from which Imhoff scored) was not forward? Replays showed it was forward by some way.

He's on a complete wind up. Healey gets off on people reacting. There's no coincidence that he called Ludik's pass "a mile forward" for Stockdale's first and then said the Imhoff one wasn't forward. You couldn't make out the Ludik pass at all properly (although a good chance it was slightly) but you could clearly see the Imhoff one in open space.

He does it for a giggle and finds himself hilarious. As long as people keep reacting, he'll keep at it.

Burkie1203

Buer wrote: »

He's on a complete wind up. Healey gets off on people reacting. There's no coincidence that he called Ludik's pass "a mile forward" for Stockdale's first and then said the Imhoff one wasn't forward. You couldn't make out the Ludik pass at all properly (although a good chance it was slightly) but you could clearly see the Imhoff one in open space.

He does it for a giggle and finds himself hilarious. As long as people keep reacting, he'll keep at it.

https://twitter.com/IamAustinHealey/status/1084206686993350659?s=19

BoardAtWork

Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if there is truth behind the allegations.

There is a cloud of sexism hanging over rugby around the province, and racism isn't all that much of a leap from there. There are also previous allegations of racism surrounding the province also afaik.

The booing was bad/embarassing enough. Racism is a step too far. You would hope that any and all involved are banned for life.

ClanofLams

With everyone videoing everything these days, there would surely be recording of any racist comments going viral already.

damianmcr

awec wrote: »

Jacob Stockdale can ride my wife. No bother.

PM'd you:D

CatFromHue

Are you all sure the fans just weren't saying Boo-aloucoune?

Burkie1203

CatFromHue wrote: »

Are you all sure the fans just weren't saying Boo-aloucoune?

Ulster have a guy called Boo-urns at 10

Anywhere to watch highlights?

That's a great win - haven't seen the game but surely final 8 is on the cards now ?

Burkie1203

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Anywhere to watch highlights?

That's a great win - haven't seen the game but surely final 8 is on the cards now ?

VM1 right now

thomond2006

CatFromHue wrote: »

Are you all sure the fans just weren't saying Boo-aloucoune?

I was saying Boo-urns.

Digifriendly

Deleted User wrote: »

Anywhere to watch highlights?

That's a great win - haven't seen the game but surely final 8 is on the cards now ?

Virgin Media one have highlights of all Irish teams in action tonight.

Locke_Lamora

BoardAtWork wrote: »

Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if there is truth behind the allegations.

There is a cloud of sexism hanging over rugby around the province, and racism isn't all that much of a leap from there. There are also previous allegations of racism surrounding the province also afaik.

The booing was bad/embarassing enough. Racism is a step too far. You would hope that any and all involved are banned for life.

There is a cloud of sexism hanging over rugby in general, so it's hardly fair to single out Ulster. And the allegations that Armitage forwarded ages ago were dismissed weren't they?

damianmcr

Watch the Ulster haters jump on Zebos statement.

Wonder which country is the 2nd most racist in the Eu.......

Paul Smeenus

If anyone gave Zebo racist abuse, I hope they are found out and banned from Ravenspan for life. Racism is vile; a pox on our society.

jm08

ClanofLams wrote: »

With everyone videoing everything these days, there would surely be recording of any racist comments going viral already.

If it wasn't a home game maybe, but its highly unlikely that someone at a home game would video some of their fellow supporters being racist and circulate it on social media.

Paul Smeenus

I would say this, though. There have been baseless and conniving accusations of bigotry against Ulster fans before.

You would only have to look at the Guardian having to pay half a million to Patrick Bamford because they ran the story of Trevor Brennan’s da hoping everyone would just assume the Nordies are bigoted monsters and he could fling about whatever accusations he wants.

Utah_Saint

I was at the game..zebo was booed by large sections of the crowd as the panto villain. Only thing I heard shouted at him was ...."where's your finger now.." after Ulster scored.

Paul Smeenus

Utah_Saint wrote: »

I was at the game..zebo was booed by large sections of the crowd as the panto villain. Only thing I heard shouted at him was ...."where's your finger now.." after Ulster scored.

I would 100% have shouted “UP YOUR HOLE” after that.

Utah_Saint

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

I would 100% have shouted “UP YOUR HOLE” after that.

Lol...it did cross my mind.

Paul Smeenus

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Lol...it did cross my mind.

I am a simple child, and I’m alright with that.