Tokyo 2020 Qualifying. Athletes to watch

healy1835

jamule wrote: »

3min pb for scullion, He will be giving out now he didn't beat Craggs record but thats a good thing.

John Treacy ran a 61 min dead HM I think, so SS is the, ahem, second fastest Irishman ever over the distance

Edit. That was a bit of a cheap shot. I remember Cragg being parachuted in in his mid 20's and there being a bit of resistance in some quarters? Did he contribute much to the athletics scene here aside from breaking records and competing in majir championships?

dna_leri

healy1835 wrote: »

John Treacy ran a 61 min dead HM I think, so SS is the, ahem, second fastest Irishman ever over the distance

Edit. That was a bit of a cheap shot. I remember Cragg being parachuted in in his mid 20's and there being a bit of resistance in some quarters? Did he contribute much to the athletics scene here aside from breaking records and competing in majir championships?

Not "parachuted" - Irish passport holder since childhood.
Good interview here:
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/othersport/arid-40025507.html

Contributed more to the athletics scene here than most of us.

healy1835

dna_leri wrote: »

Not "parachuted" - Irish passport holder since childhood.
Good interview here:
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/othersport/arid-40025507.html

Contributed more to the athletics scene here than most of us.

Well he was parachuted in to be fair, Irish passport or not, he hadn't been an underage athlete for Ireland. I was never questioning his abilities, records or efforts while wearing the Green singlet, just as to whether he was really accepted by the running community here and if he did more than just turn up at championships. It would appear by that interview, a nice retrospective on his career notwithstanding, that he seems to think he has an obligation to give something back to the running system here.

Duanington

healy1835 wrote: »

61:10ish from Scullion in Larne this morning. Some running. Seaward around 63 mins.

Super running from Scullion. Interesting to see now if Seaward\Pollock go again or if they can sit on their times now

average_runner

Duanington wrote: »

Super running from Scullion. Interesting to see now if Seaward\Pollock go again or if they can sit on their times now

Sets him nicely for London

Duanington

average_runner wrote: »

Sets him nicely for London

It really does, puts him firmly into sub 2.10 territory

IvoryTower

Delighted for him. Not sure how i feel about him doing some training with Mo, I feel like if it was anyone else id probably assume the worst but because im a fan boy im trying to shrug it off. It's probably an opportunity too good to turn down and a dream situation for most athletes who are just below that level. But....Mo. Need WalshB in here to clear my conscience.

KSU

IvoryTower wrote: »

Delighted for him. Not sure how i feel about him doing some training with Mo, I feel like if it was anyone else id probably assume the worst but because im a fan boy im trying to shrug it off. It's probably an opportunity too good to turn down and a dream situation for most athletes who are just below that level. But....Mo. Need WalshB in here to clear my conscience.

To be fair it's a popular training spot for Irish/UK athletes, Similar to where he trains in Flagstaff plenty of athletes loop in with each other when suits without actually having any connection outside of the runs.

average_runner

KSU wrote: »

To be fair it's a popular training spot for Irish/UK athletes, Similar to where he trains in Flagstaff plenty of athletes loop in with each other when suits without actually having any connection outside of the runs.

He spent more time with O'Connor and another person than Mo's group. Mo's group was mainly long runs etc. Got some advice from Gary also.



I think he just saw how the top athletes work at a different level.

IvoryTower

yes they all seem to have their own coaches, different sessions and lots of different groups on long runs so its not exactly what you'd call a training partner

KSU

average_runner wrote: »

I think he just saw how the top athletes work at a different level.

Would have said that this was something he was accustomed to give Ed Cheserek and Hassan Mead are some of his regular training partners in Flag, Even the Japanese athletes in the group are in the 2.08/9 range from a marathon perspective

Duanington

I don't think SS was lacking any quality training companions. The group in Flagstaff are pretty quick folk. Who knows what the difference is this time around? Better standard of shoe polish to black out the next%s with ?:pac:

healy1835

Duanington wrote: »

I don't think SS was lacking any quality training companions. The group in Flagstaff are pretty quick folk. Who knows what the difference is this time around? Better standard of shoe polish to black out the next%s with ?:pac:

Looked like blacked out Alphaflys to me

Duanington

healy1835 wrote: »

Looked like blacked out Alphaflys to me

Really? Haven't seen any out on the roads yet

healy1835

Duanington wrote: »

Really? Haven't seen any out on the roads yet

Well from a few of the pics they certainly looked like them. Although all the others were in Next%'s which would make you wonder. Looked like the sole of the AlphaFly' s anyway.... Not that it matters one jot either!

average_runner

KSU wrote: »

Would have said that this was something he was accustomed to give Ed Cheserek and Hassan Mead are some of his regular training partners in Flag, Even the Japanese athletes in the group are in the 2.08/9 range from a marathon perspective

I agree, but what he probably means he got to see another side of it as they all train that bit differently. Gary's group seem to push the pace in long runs while in Flagstaff that wasn't the case.

IvoryTower

ah im not surprised with the result at all, always thought he would make a big jump if a few things came together. Felt he was a good bit better than the other irish hopefuls and just needed the right race. Hope he smashes it in London.

KSU

healy1835 wrote: »

Well from a few of the pics they certainly looked like them. Although all the others were in Next%'s which would make you wonder. Looked like the sole of the AlphaFly' s anyway.... Not that it matters one jot either!

Course it matters......... easier to polish the Black and Green

AuldManKing

Duanington wrote: »

Really? Haven't seen any out on the roads yet

There's a few pairs going around alright - seen a few pics in local races & some banter amongst some folks.

66_Lad

AuldManKing wrote: »

There's a few pairs going around alright - seen a few pics in local races & some banter amongst some folks.

There were a few pairs on show in Charleville on Sunday also. Some lads got them back in April when there was a limited release, and one purchased off Stockx trading platform

KSU

Paul Robinson in action in Zagreb in 15 min

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL8xBj9NJLc

Itziger

That Rowden lad is a lovely runner. Could be a star.

KSU

Itziger wrote: »

That Rowden lad is a lovely runner. Could be a star.

9th on All time UK list I believe

few results from tonight

Robinson 3.38.26
Nadia Power - 1st -2.02.08


Elsewhere
Thomas Barr 3rd - 50.00

Jakey Rolling

Only Seward, Armstrong and McGlynn selected for the rescheduled World Half in Poland on 17th Oct. Have others passed on the opportunity due to other commitments? Thought Tobin would be looking to post a time for the half if he's moving up to the marathon.

Duanington

Jakey Rolling wrote: »

Only Seward, Armstrong and McGlynn selected for the rescheduled World Half in Poland on 17th Oct. Have others passed on the opportunity due to other commitments? Thought Tobin would be looking to post a time for the half if he's moving up to the marathon.

Tobin is a surprise for me alright, I think one or two others have passed up the opportunity alright but it still seems a little light to me

IvoryTower

Scullion nailed it so, pity the weather was trash

deisedude

So who are the contenders to represent Ireland in the Olympics in the marathon?

Men
Scullion (already qualified?)
Seaward
Pollock
Clohissey
Armstrong

Women
Lizzie Lee
Aoife Cooke
Fionnuala McCormack

I'm probably missing some obvious names

Dodge

Pollock Seaward and Scullion all have the time. Scullion’s time was outside the qualifying period but he did have a top 10 result at Houston to qualify

The men’s race is oversubscribed so we’ll see what happens

Fionnuala McCormack has the time too

average_runner

Dodge wrote: »

Pollock Seaward and Scullion all have the time. Scullion’s time was outside the qualifying period but he did have a top 10 result at Houston to qualify

The men’s race is oversubscribed so we’ll see what happens

Fionnuala McCormack has the time too

Thought the window opened back up on the 1st of Sept?


"Participants at the 2020 London Marathon will be eligible for qualification points that count for the rescheduled Tokyo 2020 Olympics and Paralympics."

No one close to the 3 lads right now.

Duanington

average_runner wrote: »

Thought the window opened back up on the 1st of Sept?


"Participants at the 2020 London Marathon will be eligible for qualification points that count for the rescheduled Tokyo 2020 Olympics and Paralympics."

No one close to the 3 lads right now.

It opened up alright.


I hear Valencia going ahead for elites, surely a few will chance their arm?

Itziger

Duanington wrote: »

It opened up alright.


I hear Valencia going ahead for elites, surely a few will chance their arm?

Aoife Cooke going for it seemingly. Coach says aiming for 2.26.

deisedude

Itziger wrote: »

Aoife Cooke going for it seemingly. Coach says aiming for 2.26.

Ya, she was after doing a training camp in Kenya before the lockdown and was scheduled to do one of the Spring marathons. Really hope she gets it, she has put in serious graft

TheBigGreen

Sean Tobin running the Valencia too

Itziger

TheBigGreen wrote: »

Sean Tobin running the Valencia too

Wonder what time he'll target. Any idea?

healy1835

Itziger wrote: »

Wonder what time he'll target. Any idea?

I'd be surprised if he didn't go after sub 2:10.

average_runner

healy1835 wrote: »

I'd be surprised if he didn't go after sub 2:10.

Be a big ask for his first, but Valencia is super fast.

Ceepo

TheBigGreen wrote: »

Sean Tobin running the Valencia too

Id be very surprised if he ran it.
In fact id nearly guarantee he won't.
Judging by the previous few months if racing, all of which except the national 10k were focused on shorter distances.

OOnegative

TheBigGreen wrote: »

Sean Tobin running the Valencia too

Possibly entered in a pacing capacity?

Ceepo

OOnegative wrote: »

Possibly entered in a pacing capacity?

At the present time, he has no plans on doing Valencia.

healy1835

World Half streaming on You Tube and BBC Red Button. After London Marathon it's a bit strange looking at them running through the city with random punters dotted about. Women on WR pace through halfway I think. Ann Marie McGlynn 33:29 through 10k, in 27th place. Link to splits here:
https://www.worldathletics.org/competitions/world-athletics-half-marathon-championships/world-athletics-half-marathon-championships-7138821/live#timetableDetail/Result/26561

healy1835

1:11:40 for 42nd for McGlynn. PB I think. Great race with a few spills and a great finish. Womens only WR for Jepchirchir 65:16. Top 3 all under previous best.

wgtomblin

A great race to watch. Some falls at critical moments.

Smiled each of the 4 times they passed the hoardings emblazoned "Bolix" (local cement company).

MY BAD

Hugh Armstrong PB in 63:37. He went through the 10km mark in 29:47 that would be 1st place in the vast majority of 10km races here

wgtomblin

High class fields at the Valencia marathon & half this Sunday. Eurosport have live coverage. Irish interest: Annmarie McGlynn, Aoife Cooke, Gary O'Hanlon according to the startlists.

66_Lad

wgtomblin wrote: »

High class fields at the Valencia marathon & half this Sunday. Eurosport have live coverage. Irish interest: Annmarie McGlynn, Aoife Cooke, Gary O'Hanlon according to the startlists.

Assuming Aoife Cooke is not running given she has been following a regular training week per her Strava feed...surprised as she appears to be hitting good form.

Itziger

66_Lad wrote: »

Assuming Aoife Cooke is not running given she has been following a regular training week per her Strava feed...surprised as she appears to be hitting good form.

Yeah, I must have missed when Coach Stazzzzzzzzzzzzza pulled her out of that. Disappointing. I think the training had a few hiccups though; there were weeks with very little quality stuff so she must have had a couple of issues.

4Ad

Thanks for the heads up..
Must have a look in the morning !!

4Ad

wgtomblin wrote: »

High class fields at the Valencia marathon & half this Sunday. Eurosport have live coverage. Irish interest: Annmarie McGlynn, Aoife Cooke, Gary O'Hanlon according to the startlists.

Live on the official website.
Half marathon split 5km in 13.37...ahead of record time..

Marathon just starting now !!

wgtomblin

4Ad wrote: »

Live on the official website.
Half marathon split 5km in 13.37...ahead of record time..

Marathon just starting now !!

WR in the Half. 57:32 !! It looks quite windy as well.
Tremendous battle between Kandie and Kiplimo in the last 3K.

Itziger

Valencia, baby.

Imagine breaking the World Record and finishing 4th!!!