Tokyo 2020 Qualifying. Athletes to watch

browne_rob5

Anyone know what races big Mick and Seaward are targeting?

You would think these gold label races are a good option. Someone in the club WhatsApp mentioned that 5th in Riga finished in 2.18 last year.

healy1835

browne_rob5 wrote: »

Anyone know what races big Mick and Seaward are targeting?

You would think these gold label races are a good option. Someone in the club WhatsApp mentioned that 5th in Riga finished in 2.18 last year.

Think Clohisey is running Seville...

KSU

browne_rob5 wrote: »

You would think these gold label races are a good option. Someone in the club WhatsApp mentioned that 5th in Riga finished in 2.18 last year.

https://www.insider.com/amateur-runner-didnt-realize-hed-qualified-for-the-olympics-for-two-months-2016-8

It should be noted though that in order to get gold label status a race must invite a minimum of 6 athletes ranked in the top 150 in the worldas well as an additional 4 ranked in top 100 in the continent and invite from a minumum of 5 different countries

Dodge

Marathon qualifiers are going to get messy. They didn’t expect even a quarter of the field to get the time and we have nearly 80 already inside it

They’ve said there will be a limit of 80 and there will be way, way, way more than 80 qualifiers through IAAF finishes and times. (None will get a spot through the rankings)

Let’s see how the IAAF and the IOC handle it

Ceepo

KSU wrote: »

Depends on how the last min changes to training camp affected him (with Fall Creeks being closed due to Bushfires)

Would be a huge ask to put him in the mix off his debut especially as to my knowledge he has not yet ran a half.

Yeah, it certainly is a big ask on a debut.
He has a lot if miles in the take all the same, and his physiological test indicate that his potential to run a good marathon.
But as we know theres a difference in what the tests say and what happens on race day.

I'd also agree that the quantification process is going to be messy.
I guess IAAF/ Olympic committee dodnt allow for the Next % factor

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Update from Sonia here on the progress of Aoife Cooke since her breakthrough in Dublin. Her coach might be a very familiar name to some around here :eek:

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/sonia-o-sullivan-tracking-the-marathon-olympic-journey-of-aoife-cooke-1.4148296?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

OOnegative

ExactlyDeleted wrote: »

Update from Sonia here on the progress of Aoife Cooke since her breakthrough in Dublin. Her coach might be a very familiar name to some around here :eek:

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/sonia-o-sullivan-tracking-the-marathon-olympic-journey-of-aoife-cooke-1.4148296?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Good jaysis!!

Itziger

OOnegative wrote: »

Good jaysis!!

It's not the same 'person' is it?!?!?!

I follow Aoife on Strava and would love to see her doing well in this Olympic year.

KSU

Itziger wrote: »

It's not the same 'person' is it?!?!?!

I follow Aoife on Strava and would love to see her doing well in this Olympic year.

Same person. Good to see her bounce back from injuries in earlier life and doing well.

IvoryTower

Why is the coach name familiar around here?

sideswipe

IvoryTower wrote: »

Why is the coach name familiar around here?

Put 'Stazza' into the search box above and have a read. Her coach was a former poster here who's 'posting' style rubbed people up the wrong way. He was basically posting in a 'method acting style' as he was planning to write a book!


Don't want to dig up the past but I think enough water has passed under the bridge. The Running Master's log can be found here, It's a decent read, just not sure if it should be categorised as fact or fiction!

IvoryTower

Well, he obviously knew his stuff anyway!

robinph

Dodge wrote: »

Marathon qualifiers are going to get messy. They didn’t expect even a quarter of the field to get the time and we have nearly 80 already inside it

They’ve said there will be a limit of 80 and there will be way, way, way more than 80 qualifiers through IAAF finishes and times. (None will get a spot through the rankings)

Let’s see how the IAAF and the IOC handle it

It's still only 3 per country though, and presumably most of those 80 are from just a couple of countries.

28064212

robinph wrote: »

It's still only 3 per country though, and presumably most of those 80 are from just a couple of countries.

Nope. Even just looking at 2019 (qualification window opened 01/01/2019), there were 373 individual runners that were 2:11:30 or lower. If you take out all-but-3 of each of the Kenyans, Ethiopians, and Japanese, you're still left with 118 athletes. Now there are a handful of other countries hitting double-figures (United States, Morocco), but it's looking like it will be very close to, if not more than, 80 qualifying through time alone

KSU

28064212 wrote: »

Nope. Even just looking at 2019 (qualification window opened 01/01/2019), there were 373 individual runners that were 2:11:30 or lower. If you take out all-but-3 of each of the Kenyans, Ethiopians, and Japanese, you're still left with 118 athletes. Now there are a handful of other countries hitting double-figures (United States, Morocco), but it's looking like it will be very close to, if not more than, 80 qualifying through time alone

You can get a better idea here


https://www.tokyorankings.com/mensmarathon

robinph

Just felt like having a play with a spreadsheet.

Found 10 countries with more than three runners going 2:11:30 (ETH, KEN, UGA, MAR, BRN, ERI, JPN, USA, ESP, FRA)
Another 7 with 3 (TUR, RSA, ITA, ISR, CHN, UKR, MEX)

So that is 51 places taken already, the rest of the countries are mostly only getting 1, but there is indeed a total of 81 on that list with the time when limited to a max of three per country.

ETH 99
KEN 134
TUR 3
UGA 8
GBR 2
MAR 10
BRN 7
BEL 2
NOR 1
NED 1
ERI 11
SUI 1
JPN 33
USA 9
RSA 3
ITA 3
ISR 3
ESP 7
NZL 1
TAN 2
CHN 3
KOR 1
FRA 4
PER 1
CAN 1
SWE 1
IRL 1
PAR 1
GER 1
BDI 1
AUT 2
UKR 3
MEX 3
AUS 2
RWA 2
ARG 2
DEN 1
LES 1
BRA 1
PRK 1

average_runner

And how does it look after the places in gold label races are awarded?

28064212

KSU wrote: »

You can get a better idea here

https://www.tokyorankings.com/mensmarathon

Good site, although they seem to say Arne Gabius is qualified, but as far as I can tell, he doesn't have a spot: 2:12:57 and 11th in New York, so not through either method

healy1835

Scullion said on his podcast today that World Athletics confirmed that there will not be a limit of 80 and that anyone who meets the criteria will be eligible for selection by their country.

browne_rob5

healy1835 wrote: »

Scullion said on his podcast today that World Athletics confirmed that there will not be a limit of 80 and that anyone who meets the criteria will be eligible for selection by their country.

Yeah and I think the whole point of reducing the numbers in the marathon was so there was more room in the village for athletes from new sports. Now the marathon isn't even in Tokyo so that probably doesn't matter.

Dodge

healy1835 wrote: »

Scullion said on his podcast today that World Athletics confirmed that there will not be a limit of 80 and that anyone who meets the criteria will be eligible for selection by their country.

Good to hear. As of now, Scullion is the only runner who has a place because of his finishing position in a race and who doesn’t have the time.

Effectively, Vaporfly ruined any chance they had at keeping it to 80

Ceepo

I see Scullion is down on the start list for Boston on the 20 April.
Not sure if he had planned on doing it as a back up if Houston went belly up, or if he actually plans to run it.

baa.org/john-hancock-announces-2020-boston-marathon-elite-team

IvoryTower

Ceepo wrote: »

I see Scullion is down on the start list for Boston on the 20 April.
Not sure if he had planned on doing it as a back up if Houston went belly up, or if he actually plans to run it.

baa.org/john-hancock-announces-2020-boston-marathon-elite-team

On his podcast he says hes running it

Ceepo

IvoryTower wrote: »

On his podcast he says hes running it

4 marathons in 5 months.........Certainly an unconventional approach

IvoryTower

Ceepo wrote: »

4 marathons in 5 months.........Certainly an unconventional approach

Actually he said it's up in the air in todays podcast, will decide this week.

browne_rob5

IvoryTower wrote: »

Actually he said it's up in the air in todays podcast, will decide this week.

He's ruled himself out of Boston. Makes sense now that he has qualified.

IvoryTower

browne_rob5 wrote: »

He's ruled himself out of Boston. Makes sense now that he has qualified.

it will be fun to see what he can over the shorter distances :cool:

TFBubendorfer

browne_rob5 wrote: »

He's ruled himself out of Boston. Makes sense now that he has qualified.

Boston would have been a strange choice if he were aiming at qualification - it is a slow course

28064212

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Boston would have been a strange choice if he were aiming at qualification - it is a slow course

Maybe he got some long term weather reports and thought he could pull a Kawauchi on it

average_runner

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Boston would have been a strange choice if he were aiming at qualification - it is a slow course

Its not that slow in the right conditions. Some world records would of been set there if it wasn't for the point to point layout, including a men's record