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Are Rottweilers dangerous?

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  • 07-01-2019 10:36pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭


    A family member just got a Rottweiler puppy. This makes me a bit uncomfortable as they are perceived as a dangerous dog and while I see some people muzzling them in public, I'm not sure that will happen here.

    Has anyone had an actual negative experience with this breed?

    (Enter stage left...the Rottie evangelists to explain what little angels these dogs are ðŸ˜


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    (Enter stage left...the Rottie evangelists to explain what little angels these dogs are ðŸ˜

    What's the point of making this thread when you're already decided on the issue?


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,306 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Trained properly and there should be no issue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    http://www.dublincity.ie/sites/default/files/content/RecreationandCulture/AnimalWelfare/Documents/New_Banned_Dog_Leaflet.pdf

    theyre on the banned dogs list. They likely pose a danger to young children or other animals if left out alone. Im sure somebody will come along to tell us theyre all good and wouldnt harm anybody but in reality unless its a house of adults or atleast teenagers I wouldnt have one around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    There's no such thing as a dangerous dog just clueless owners. A Labrador can be just as dangerous


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    Witcher wrote: »
    What's the point of making this thread when you're already decided on the issue?

    I'm not decided. I'm looking to hear from people who have had an actual negative experience, if there are none it may mean I have to question my preconception.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭alta stare


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    A family member just got a Rottweiler puppy. This makes me a bit uncomfortable as they are perceived as a dangerous dog and while I see some people muzzling them in public, I'm not sure that will happen here.

    Has anyone had an actual negative experience with this breed?

    (Enter stage left...the Rottie evangelists to explain what little angels these dogs are ðŸ˜

    A dog isnt born dangerous it is raised dangerous, either by neglect, abuse or lack of training. All inflicted by bad owners.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    http://www.dublincity.ie/sites/default/files/content/RecreationandCulture/AnimalWelfare/Documents/New_Banned_Dog_Leaflet.pdf

    theyre on the banned dogs list. They likely pose a danger to young children or other animals if left out alone. Im sure somebody will come along to tell us theyre all good and wouldnt harm anybody but in reality unless its a house of adults or atleast teenagers I wouldnt have one around.


    "Banned dogs list"??


    Any link to that or is it just in your imagination?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    "Banned dogs list"??


    Any link to that or is it just in your imagination?

    Eh, he did give a link!


  • Registered Users Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    "Banned dogs list"??


    Any link to that or is it just in your imagination?

    Based on that link, it looks like they are banned for dcc tennants only


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Mike3549 wrote: »
    Based on that link, it looks like they are banned for dcc tennants only

    that is correct, but do you think theres a reason they picked specific breeds ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    I'm not decided. I'm looking to hear from people who have had an actual negative experience, if there are none it may mean I have to question my preconception.


    I've never had a negative experience with any rotties. Any of them I've handled have literally been cuddle monsters. They are strong powerful dogs though.



    Breeds I have had negative experiences with:


    Collie
    Bichon
    JRT
    Golden cocker spaniel


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,417 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Of you get a well bred Rottweiler you will get a very good dog, great family dog which can be an excellent guard dog if that's what you want.
    The downside is that a lot of them get bad illnesses early enough in their lives like between 8 and 10.


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭JC01


    Behaviour wise, there the same as all dogs ie it’s 90% in the training/raising of them although the “dangerous” aspect (I hate calling it that) is the same as any larger breed of dog in that they will cause more damage than a ****zu if they do decide to go for someone.

    In relative terms there no more dangerous than a Labrador.

    Iv met far more badly behaved collies and labs than Rottweilers/ German Shepard’s/ staffs etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,359 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Yes Rottweilers are dangerous just like every dog if they have a moron owner. The thing is certain breeds attract certain types of owners then the breed gets a bad name.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    alta stare wrote: »
    A dog isnt born dangerous it is raised dangerous, either by neglect, abuse or lack of training. All inflicted by bad owners.

    I'm not so sure about that. This article seems to suggest temperament can be inherited. Hopefully this one is the gentle kind.

    https://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/reviews/rottweilers.html


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Eh, he did give a link!

    They are banned in DCC housing but nationally are on the restricted breeds list and must be on a lead and muzzled in public.

    Rottweiler were bred as cattle herders dogs and can have a shepherding instinct

    I had a Rottweiler crossed with a ridgeback and he was fiercely protective of me and mine but fairly placid.

    I've had other dogs who were just damaged souls tbh.

    I also had several German shepherds a wolfhound and lurchers and honestly didn't find any difference

    Its how the pup is brought up that will make the difference


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    There is no such thing as dangerous dog breeds. Only dangerous owners.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,455 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    theyre on the banned dogs list. They likely pose a danger to young children or other animals if left out alone.

    You shouldn't leave ANY dog alone with young children.


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭JC01


    http://www.dublincity.ie/sites/default/files/content/RecreationandCulture/AnimalWelfare/Documents/New_Banned_Dog_Leaflet.pdf

    theyre on the banned dogs list. They likely pose a danger to young children or other animals if left out alone. Im sure somebody will come along to tell us theyre all good and wouldnt harm anybody but in reality unless its a house of adults or atleast teenagers I wouldnt have one around.

    Genuine question, are you a dog owner?

    Would you have any breed around a house with young children?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    They are prone to going overweight and have a short enough lifespan but if they are raised right from a pup they will be as sound as a bog carrot.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭alta stare


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    I'm not so sure about that. This article seems to suggest temperament can be inherited. Hopefully this one is the gentle kind.

    https://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/reviews/rottweilers.html

    I had one he died this year. I trained him from the moment i got him. He was by far the best dog i have ever come across. If they are looked after they are really pleasant dogs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭alta stare


    They are prone to going overweight and have a short enough lifespan but if they are raised right from a pup they will be as sound as a bog carrot.

    They will go over weight if fed too much with zero exercise not because they are prone to it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    I'm not so sure about that. This article seems to suggest temperament can be inherited. Hopefully this one is the gentle kind.

    https://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/reviews/rottweilers.html


    Ask them about the breeder, look up their details online and you should get a feel for how well they socialise and rear their pups. Some breeders put a huge amount of time and effort into their pups and ensuring that they are improving the lines and the breed. Others, particularly if sourced online, not so much.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭alta stare


    Ask them about the breeder, look up their details online and you should get a feel for how well they socialise and rear their pups. Some breeders put a huge amount of time and effort into their pups and ensuring that they are improving the lines and the breed. Others, particularly if sourced online, not so much.

    100%

    Also any clued in buyervwill also spend time around the litter and pick out a dog which they see is best for them. Before i picked my fella i was there an hour watching him interact with the litter and his parents. I also picked him based on his reaction to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,228 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    Witcher wrote:
    What's the point of making this thread when you're already decided on the issue?


    Poster wants other people's opinion. Seems fine to me regardless of his own.


  • Registered Users Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Sheepdish1


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    A family member just got a Rottweiler puppy. This makes me a bit uncomfortable as they are perceived as a dangerous dog and while I see some people muzzling them in public, I'm not sure that will happen here.

    Has anyone had an actual negative experience with this breed?

    (Enter stage left...the Rottie evangelists to explain what little angels these dogs are ðŸ˜

    Hi OP, I think it is good you are asking this as opposed to jumping to conclusions:) Any dog on restricted breed list, by law should be on leash and muzzled in public, whether people agree with the restricted breed list or not that is the law.

    no dog should ever be left alone or unsupervised with child, regardless of size, breed or temperament.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭VonVix


    I have had one single bad experience with a Rottweiler, but he was seriously physically abused (to the point he was made unconscious) a few months prior which left him struggling to cope around anyone who was unfamiliar who got close enough to touch him, he would go from 0 to 100 in two seconds, with no obvious tells than a bit of floor sniffing and avoidance behaviours, he'd pretend you weren't there... it was nothing that would give you any huge red flags, no growling or snarling, nothing... and I wasn't informed of it until afterwards. :o But this incident had very specific circumstances, the fact he was a Rottweiler had nothing to do with it.

    I've only been bitten aggressively once by a Yorkshire Terrier. I've been bitten by other dogs before, but this Yorkie was the only one that wasn't behaving straight out of fear, he just wanted to go out of his way eat me because he had resource guarding issues when it came to another dog he was with (that again, I wasn't informed of lol)!

    Seriously though, the only thing that would make a Rottweiler more dangerous than any other dog is that they have a more powerful than average jaw strength, if one wanted to hurt you, they could, a Chihuahua could come at you with the same intent and not do much more than pinch you.

    What's important is that a puppy, of any breed, is raised with respect, gentle/considerate handling, proper familiarization when it comes to different environments/people and an understanding that they are a living creature, not a toy or disposable object.
    People create dangerous dogs, whether it's by abuse, lack of familiarization, poor breeding, or all of them combined, people have a hand in it somewhere along the line.

    [Dog Training + Behaviour Nerd]



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Would depend on breeding and treatment by owner. They are big powerful animals so that alone increases risk. Behavioural traits are inheritable so if parents are aggressive offspring can be more prone to it. They are intelligent so the more controlled exposure they get to people and other animals the better.
    In terms of experiences don't have one but have been to places where they rolled for a belly rub, others where they barked and watched from a distance and unfortunately a neighbouring pair who cornered and attacked a 600kg cow leaving her with cuts on her head and face and permanent lameness on a front leg. If he's the a person to leave em out the back and not interact or train the dog I would be wary.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    There is no such thing as dangerous dog breeds. Only dangerous owners.

    Greatest myth of all time. Some dogs are inherently dangerous breeds. Yes, they can be controlled via proper training and supervision but nothing that you, me or anyone else can do will take away their instinct. We can minimise the risk but never ever eliminate it.

    IMO, Labradors are one of the most dangerous as they almost always appear quite placid and have a 'good' name yet they're one of the most prolific biters of all dogs.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Corkgirl18


    Any rottweiler I've dealt with have been absolutely beautiful dogs. Super affectionate and just love cuddles!


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