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Whatsapp vs Signal - Why aren't more on signal?

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    #62
    Cienciano
    Registered Users Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Del2005 wrote: »
    WhatsApp is a Facebook app.

    I know that, I'd move to signal tomorrow if everyone else would. But it hasn't had data breaches and sold information taken from it. I'm sure it will, and I'm also sure if Signal or whatever got popular facebook would buy it.


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    #63
    seligehgit
    Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Anybody got a workaround for the apparent inability to install signal desktop on a windows 10 32 bit OS?


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    #64
    RangeR
    Registered Users Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭RangeR


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Anybody got a workaround for the apparent inability to install signal desktop on a windows 10 32 bit OS?
    Signal is compiled into a 64bit package. It just won't work on a 32bit Windows.


    Can you backup your data and install 64bit Windows over your 32bit? You will lose all data as a fresh install would be required.


    Alternatively, use a virtual machine with 64 bit windows in it. Not really usable as a daily driver, though.


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    #65
    seligehgit
    Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    RangeR wrote: »
    Signal is compiled into a 64bit package. It just won't work on a 32bit Windows.


    Can you backup your data and install 64bit Windows over your 32bit? You will lose all data as a fresh install would be required.


    Alternatively, use a virtual machine with 64 bit windows in it. Not really usable as a daily driver, though.

    Thanks very much but I'd prefer not go through the hassle of a backup and installation of windows 64 bit.


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    #66
    Squeeonline
    Registered Users Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    The strangest thing in this thread is trying to figure out why someone would be running a 32bit os in 2021?


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    #67
    Riesen_Meal
    Registered Users Posts: 10,575 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    Squeeonline wrote: »
    The strangest thing in this thread is trying to figure out why someone would be running a 32bit os in 2021?

    And why none of my contacts want to free themselves from WhatsApp...


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    #68
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,438 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Fieldog wrote: »
    And why none of my contacts want to free themselves from WhatsApp...

    My older teen tells me none of the buddies are using WhatsApp now. They're not using Signal either - all Snapchat or Instagram.


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    #69
    Squeeonline
    Registered Users Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    I managed to encourage a couple groups to move to Signal. Many people signed up for it after the T&C debacle a couple months ago, so now it is down to me to message people there rather than whatsapp.

    Unfortunately, the main holdout in my life is the misses who doesn't think signal is pretty enough to use.

    Also my parents, because it took long enough to get them to use whatsapp instead of sms and landlines to call. Especially with them in another country, it's not like I can grab their devices and force the switch for them.


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    #70
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users Posts: 8,810 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    RangeR wrote: »
    Signal is compiled into a 64bit package. It just won't work on a 32bit Windows.


    Can you backup your data and install 64bit Windows over your 32bit? You will lose all data as a fresh install would be required.


    Alternatively, use a virtual machine with 64 bit windows in it. Not really usable as a daily driver, though.
    seligehgit wrote: »
    Thanks very much but I'd prefer not go through the hassle of a backup and installation of windows 64 bit.

    afaik if you reinstall windows, your old windows will get backed up to a windows.old folder.

    Also you need 64 bit OS, 32 bit is way out of date...


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    #71
    Tec Diver
    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Tec Diver


    I am moving my chats to Signal or Telegram. I find Telegram handles groups better. I do still have some WhatsApp groups, but I'm not joining any more, and actively reducing the amount of them, along with disabling all notifications.
    On Android, I use Signal instead of the normal SMS application, which it handles really well.

    If you're happy with WhatsApp, stay with it. If not, move.


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    #72
    KildareP
    Registered Users Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭KildareP


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    afaik if you reinstall windows, your old windows will get backed up to a windows.old folder.

    Also you need 64 bit OS, 32 bit is way out of date...
    Careful! This is only if you upgrade to a new version of Windows 10, or reset Windows using the built-in recovery tool.

    Going 32-bit to 64-bit (or vice versa) requires a full format of the disk which wipes everything and Windows 10 to be installed from scratch from a USB or DVD.


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    #73
    RangeR
    Registered Users Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭RangeR


    KildareP wrote: »
    Careful! This is only if you upgrade to a new version of Windows 10, or reset Windows using the built-in recovery tool.

    Going 32-bit to 64-bit (or vice versa) requires a full format of the disk which wipes everything and Windows 10 to be installed from scratch from a USB or DVD.


    Indeed. And besides, the windows.old folder is just that. It's a backup of the old C:\Windows. There are no user files or programs in there. It's useless to most people, excepting maybe a version downgrade.


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    #74
    Invidious
    Closed Accounts Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Invidious


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    My older teen tells me none of the buddies are using WhatsApp now. They're not using Signal either - all Snapchat or Instagram.

    WhatsApp and Signal at least have the advantage of encryption, which Snapchat and Instagram do not.


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    #75
    RangeR
    Registered Users Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭RangeR


    Invidious wrote: »
    WhatsApp and Signal at least have the advantage of encryption, which Snapchat and Instagram do not.
    And unfortunately, the majority don't care about encryption. They only care about how to contact their friends.... and get likes for their content.


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    #76
    human 19
    Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭human 19


    LotharIngum wrote: »
    A friend of mine decided to stop using WhatsApp.

    He sent everyone a last WhatsApp with a link to signal and explained why he was leaving WhatsApp and that he would now be on signal.

    Everyone just decided, one bloody messaging service is enough and didn't bother with signal.

    After about two weeks he tried to get us all to leave signal again.

    Then after another week he was feeling left out as no one went to signal and hes back on WhatsApp.


    Yep. non-techhie family members. the same reason we are still on facebook instead of diaspora.


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