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6 Nations 2019 Build Up thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    BOURGARIT Pierre (Stade Rochelais)
    CHAT Camille (Racing 92)
    GUIRADO Guilhem (cap)

    ALDEGHERI Dorian (Stade Toulousain)
    BAMBA Demba (CA Brive Corr Limousin)
    GOMES SA Cedate (Racing 92)
    POIROT Jefferson (Union Bordeaux Bes)
    FALGOUX Etienne (AS Clermont Auvergne)

    ITURRIA Arthur (AS Clermont Auvergne)
    GABRILLAGUES Paul (Stade Frans Paris)
    LAMBEY Felix (Lyon OU)
    VAHAAMAHINA Sstien (AS Clermont Auvergne)
    WILLEMSE Paul (Montpellier Hult)

    CAMARA Yacouba (Montpellier Hult)
    ALLDRITT Grry (Stade Rochelais)
    LAURET Wenceslas (Racing 92)
    PICAMOLES Louis (Montpellier Hult)

    BEZY Sstien (Stade Toulousain)
    DUPONT Antoine (Stade Toulousain)
    SERIN Baptiste (Union Bordeaux-Bes)

    BELLEAU Anthony (RC Toulon)
    LOPEZ Camille (AS Clermont Auvergne)
    NTAMACK Romain (Stade Toulousain)

    BASTAREAUD Mathieu (RC Toulon)
    DOUMAYROU Geoffrey (Stade Rochelais)
    FICKOU Ga(Stade Frans Paris)
    FOFANA Wesley (AS Clermont Auvergne)

    HUGET Yoann (Stade Toulousain)
    MEDARD Maxime (Stade Toulousain)
    PENAUD Damian (AS Clermont Auvergne)
    RAMOS Thomas (Stade Toulousain)


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    England squad

    Forwards
    Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers), Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Ben Earl (Saracens), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Alec Hepburn (Exeter Chiefs), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Ben Moon (Exeter Chiefs), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins), Brad Shields (Wasps), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs), Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons).


    Backs
    Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens) captain, George Ford (Leicester Tigers), Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby), Jonny May (Leicester Tigers), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Dan Robson (Wasps), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Ollie Thorley (Gloucester Rugby), Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers).


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Scotland: Forwards Hamish Watson, Willem Nel (both Edinburgh) and Sam Skinner (Exeter Chiefs) are joined by Glasgow Warriors pair Stafford McDowall (centre) and Grant Stewart (hooker) in returning to the squad.

    They are accompanied by incoming trio Matt Fagerson and Byron McGuigan – who missed out on initial selection through injury – and London Irish prop Gordon Reid.

    As a consequence of their inclusion the following eight players, split evenly between injury and those released back to their clubs, are no longer part of the current Scotland squad.

    They are injured quartet scrum-half George Horne (shoulder), prop D’arcy Rae (ankle), hooker George Turner (graduated return to play protocol for concussion) and centre Chris Dean (back), plus prop Alex Allan, back-row Rob Harley (both Glasgow Warriors), back-row John Hardie (Newcastle Falcons) and stand-off Duncan Weir (Worcester Warriors).


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    this france game is a potential banana skin if we are beaten i would fear for the job wales will do on us in cardiff. anyone think irelands match fixtures apart from england game have fallen badly , early kick off in murrayfield, sunday game in rome and another sunday game v france, id rather have france at 5pm on a saturday evening in dublin, we have a bad history v france on a sunday remember 2007 croker


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    this france game is a potential banana skin if we are beaten i would fear for the job wales will do on us in cardiff. anyone think irelands match fixtures apart from england game have fallen badly , early kick off in murrayfield, sunday game in rome and another sunday game v france, id rather have france at 5pm on a saturday evening in dublin, we have a bad history v france on a sunday remember 2007 croker

    Rugby in France is a Sunday game. Their TV rights holders try to have as many Sunday fixtures as possible.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Chris Robshaw back in England's squad

    Would he not be better off giving a younger player a bit of experience, or is Jones expecting him to play a role in the RWC if fit?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Anjobe


    jr86 wrote: »
    Chris Robshaw back in England's squad

    Would he not be better off giving a younger player a bit of experience, or is Jones expecting him to play a role in the RWC if fit?

    It looks like he's cover for Curry at 7 in that squad, as Wilson and Shields cover 6. I don't know what other options England have at openside, it is not a position in which they have had strength in depth over the years. I would think that Underhill would be the preferred option behind Curry but he is not available.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    French team out. They seem to like releasing it early.

    https://twitter.com/FFRugby/status/1102838657344552966


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭Eod100




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    This is a brilliant headline
    “Maro Itoje dodges Eddie Jones but runs into new England injury scare”
    It’s literal
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/mar/05/maro-itoje-injury-scare-england-training-rugby


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Looking forward to seeing the Scotland selection, will Toonie have the balls to drop Laidlaw?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Looking forward to seeing the Scotland selection, will Toonie have the balls to drop Laidlaw?

    Please God, I'm tired of looking at his stationary arse for an eternity as he stares into the abyss as if pondering something masterful before passing 5 yards in the direction he is facing


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,952 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Looking forward to seeing the Scotland selection, will Toonie have the balls to drop Laidlaw?
    I'm not sure he will drop him. Maitland is injured now as well to go along with Huw Jones and Stuart Hogg. Russell is fit again but who knows if he's fully healed. He may want to keep Laidlaw in there as an experienced hand.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Clegg wrote: »
    I'm not sure he will drop him. Maitland is injured now as well to go along with Huw Jones and Stuart Hogg. Russell is fit again but who knows if he's fully healed. He may want to keep Laidlaw in there as an experienced hand.

    It's a big call alright but the alternative is having the Welsh defensive line completely smother them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    i think wales will hammer scotland and get a bonus point win


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭Eod100




  • Registered Users Posts: 16,952 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Te'o and Tuilagi as your centres really telegraphs your gameplan. No ball for the back 3!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Can see this being a massacre to be honest

    England will obviously be keen to bounce straight back, and Italy at home couldn't be a better opportunity to do so. Could see Billy V and Tuilagi having a field day.

    Interesting to see the subtle changes EJ is making to the side throughout the tournament. Te'o, Shields, Genge, and Cokanasiga all get their bow this week and injuries mean Launchbury gets a go too. I am surprised Daly has started all 4 games at FB though. Does Mike Brown not deserve a shot to prove himself before RWC? Thought Youngs might sit this one out too

    A bonus point here should win them the championship if Wales slip up somewhere


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    jr86 wrote: »
    Can see this being a massacre to be honest

    England will obviously be keen to bounce straight back, and Italy at home couldn't be a better opportunity to do so. Could see Billy V and Tuilagi having a field day.

    Interesting to see the subtle changes EJ is making to the side throughout the tournament. Te'o, Shields, Genge, and Cokanasiga all get their bow this week and injuries mean Launchbury gets a go too

    A bonus point here should win them the championship if Wales slip up somewhere

    Yeah England's points difference is 40 so could nearly beat Italy by that amount. Even last year when Italy made a nuisance of themselves it ended up finishing 15-46.

    Yeah downside if we beat Wales is England winning the Championship. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Yeah England's points difference is 40 so could nearly beat Italy by that amount. Even last year when Italy made a nuisance of themselves it ended up finishing 15-46.

    Yeah downside if we beat Wales is England winning the Championship. :P

    An Irish BP in either of the first 2 matches could have made things interesting

    As it stands, if England pick up the expected BP on saturday, any win against Scotland will do (being realistic looking at the PD)

    I suppose with the BP rule its going to be very hard to replicate a final day like 2015 ever again


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Anjobe


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Yeah downside if we beat Wales is England winning the Championship. :P

    Not much danger of that on current form...


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭Eod100




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Eod100 wrote: »

    Laidlaw benched, interesting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Italian team out. Only 1 left so is Irish team tomorrow pm.

    https://twitter.com/Federugby/status/1103658918788714496


  • Registered Users Posts: 732 ✭✭✭penybont exile


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    i think wales will hammer scotland and get a bonus point win
    I'd take any win ..... BP's are irrelevant for us in any case.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    i think wales will hammer scotland and get a bonus point win
    I'd take any win ..... BP's are irrelevant for us in any case.

    That's not true at all. A BP against Scotland makes it really hard for Ireland to come second, even if they win in Cardiff. It also keeps them in the hunt for first if England **** up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 732 ✭✭✭penybont exile


    troyzer wrote: »
    That's not true at all. A BP against Scotland makes it really hard for Ireland to come second, even if they win in Cardiff. It also keeps them in the hunt for first if England **** up.

    It's all about the GS for me .... & many of my ilk back in Wales.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    It's all about the GS for me .... & many of my ilk back in Wales.

    Riiiiight.

    I personally don't think Wales are going to do it if Ireland find form, they've been poor for the majority of the tournament. In that scenario, getting a bonus point against Scotland is really important.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,203 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Ireland haven't won in Cardiff in the 6N under Schmidt. I don't expect that to change.

    There was a huge lack of credit/respect afforded to Wales coming into this tournament. You could see it on here after the French game still with many people claiming Wales were poor and nothing to be worried about. It was pure arrogance on our part. They may not have beaten NZ but they've beaten everyone else aside from Ireland in the past year and they're going to be favourites to rectify that in a fortnight.

    And I would imagine for the Welsh it is absolutely all about the Grand Slam now just as it would be if we were in the same position. The players won't be thinking about a bonus point whatsoever when they take the field tomorrow. Get the win and they're one game away from a massive achievement.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 732 ✭✭✭penybont exile


    Correct .... Wales were not even worried about bonus points during the Italy game.

    All about winning .... ROG figured it out ....


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