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My depression cost me my relationship

  • 02-01-2019 8:32pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi all. I'm going unregged for this. Recently my girlfriend and I agreed to take a break while I looked after my mental health issues. She has told me she loved me and would wait for me to be better in order for us to pick up where we left off. We had been arguing before Christmas but since then we had patched things up fairly well and she was full of love for me. A mate text me on Saturday night to tell me he had spotted her on a dating site and showed me the pics. I immediately confronted her about it and said some pretty nasty things. I called her a 'whore' and 'cheat'. I was hurt seen as though the night before she had kissed me and told me everything would be alright. I couldn't believe she could do this especially when only weeks before I was suicidal and going through one of the roughest parts of my life. She told me it was a mistake and blamed me for ending the relationship previously. I explained why I ended it and asked how she would feel if this was the other way round. She wouldn't answer. She knew I wanted her and loved her and wanted to be back with her. And she told me the same. Since then she won't speak to me or return my texts or calls. I love this girl. And I thought she loved me. I don't know what to do. Is this the end?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    You called her a whore. There's no going back from that. Take the time to sort yourself out and move on when you're well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Pelvis


    You don't call people you love a whore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I know. It was the worst thing I've ever said to her or anyone. The anger and shock of what happened got the best of me. I wish I had never said it but I couldn't believe what had happened. It's still no excuse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Cheat is not too bad but “whore” is a deal breaker I’m afraid. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that it’s a result of your mental health issues but I’d say you’ve burned your boats with this girl, at least for the moment while your trying to get well. Please go and work on your health to stop yourself from becoming isolated through this behavior.


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,907 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    To be honest, the one thing that stood out for me was that you said you were suicidal a few weeks previously. You need to realise that is not her responsibility. And you cannot hold her ransom to your mental health. My husband suffers with his mental health and it is very very tough being the partner of someone with mental health issues. It's a lonely thankless place.

    Please don't think I am comparing being the partner of someone with depression with actually being the sufferer. I'm not. The two aren't comparable. But they are both equally difficult in very different ways.

    You need to concentrate on getting your mental health sorted. That should be your priority now. Once that is under control other parts of your life will improve. You seem more concerned with winning her back. For what reason? To have her as your support when things are tough? I think you need to accept that she is not in a position to be that support. She's not qualified to help you. And may inadvertently do it say things that make you feel worse. Which is exactly what happened.

    Please read this thread and maybe get in contact with some of the organisations on it. You may already have been recommended some of these organisations by your GP.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    You. Were. On. A. Break.
    How long would it take you to sort out your mental health issues. & how long has she had to deal with those same issues thusfar?
    Days? Weeks? Months? Years?
    There's only so much in anyone, as well you know yourself. But if you push someone away& isolate them, you can't be surprised if they look for validation elsewhere. She might not have been persuing anything or anyone, just feelimg low& wanting a few swipes right& the ego boost to know she was attractive& desirable to someone.
    She might forgive you, but she will never EVER forget you calling her a whore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    First off, regarding calling your GF a whore; we all make mistakes in this life and sometimes emotion gets the better of us. You shouldn't have said it and I think you genuinely regret that but it's not exactly a cardinal sin.

    A previous poster has stated that if you love someone you don't call them a whore. However, you also don't go behind someones back and join a dating site when that person expressively stated they would wait for you.

    That certainly is not love. Actions will always speak louder than words.

    The absolute most important thing right now is to look after your own mental health, talk to your GP. I don't know how old you or your GF are but I am guessing fairly young. She may not be mature enough to handle a situation like this sadly and may not want to be weighed down, when people are young they tend to think like this. It entirely depends though.


    Give yourself a break and attend to your own issues first, cease any further contact with her, if she cares at all she will reach out in time if she doesn't you are better off without her.


    Look after yourself OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Maybe being the girlfriend of someone with significant mental health issues took its toll on her? That was one of the first thoughts that crossed my mind. I have a friend who confided in me that she'd attempted suicide and it rattled me to the core. I can understand why she came to that point (she has life-limiting health problems) but it changed utterly how I viewed her. We're still friends but not as close. Condemn me if you want but I'm being honest here.

    As BBOC has already said, being the partner of someone who suffers from depression is very very tough. It's not for everyone and maybe you leaned too hard on her?

    Calling her a Whore put a nail in the coffin but I get the impression that things were starting to come apart at the seams anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Your depression didn't cost you your girlfriend, your treatment of her did. Depression will mess up your head but its not an excuse for calling her a whore.

    She shouldn't have gone behind your back and set up a dating profile if you were still together.

    I think you're both better off away from each other. Spend this time working on your mental health and leave relationships until you are in a better head space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Heat_Wave


    I really don't think calling her a whore is a massive deal, nor do I believe it to be a deal breaker. We've all passed hurtful comments to our loved ones in anger, obviously we do not always mean them.

    I am a very black and white person in how I think. If you guys were on a break (initiated by you), then what is the problem with her being on a dating site? You guys weren't together at the time.

    I hope you're feeling better OP, and I'm so sorry to hear that you experienced such awful thoughts recently. I'm glad you posted here as I myself posted here recently and it was an eye opener to read other people's perspectives. Hopefully you'll experience the same. Life is one big learning curve - we all make mistakes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭zapper55


    To quote Ross they were on a break.

    This thread reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend recently whose boyfriend has depression. There are long periods of time when he has no sex drive, and it makes her feel very unattractive, even though logically she knows it's the depression talking.

    Maybe the OPs ex went on a website to feel good about herself after what sounds like a stressful relationship.

    OP I do think you need to concentrate on your mental health. A relationship will just hurt you and another person at the moment.

    Also calling someone a whore is a pretty dark place to go. I personally couldn't come back from that. I'd be questioning their attitude to sex and to women.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Called her a whore. Big deal, we all say things in arguments we regret. It's not right but I think everyone's getting caught up on one word!!

    She said she'd wait for him to sort himself out, not hop on a dating site in the meantime.

    Sounds like you're better off without the hassle OP, yes it's tough living with someone with mental health issues but life isn't all roses and cake, sometimes it's really tough, and having someone who wants to be there for the tough times and not just the good times is what love is all about. She doesn't want to support you now, and that won't change in the future, depression isn't something that just goes away, it's for life, so youre better off confiding in a friend or family, get some counselling and the tools you need to control your thoughts and feelings. Once you talk to a professional and gain control you'll feel a whole lot better, and then go find someone who truly cares.

    The first session is a big step, you'll feel like it can't make a difference, but trust me it does. Best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Called her a whore. Big deal, we all say things in arguments we regret. It's not right but I think everyone's getting caught up on one word!!

    She said she'd wait for him to sort himself out, not hop on a dating site in the meantime.

    Sounds like you're better off without the hassle OP, yes it's tough living with someone with mental health issues but life isn't all roses and cake, sometimes it's really tough, and having someone who wants to be there for the tough times and not just the good times is what love is all about. She doesn't want to support you now, and that won't change in the future, depression isn't something that just goes away, it's for life, so youre better off confiding in a friend or family, get some counselling and the tools you need to control your thoughts and feelings. Once you talk to a professional and gain control you'll feel a whole lot better, and then go find someone who truly cares.

    The first session is a big step, you'll feel like it can't make a difference, but trust me it does. Best of luck.

    Its a really nasty, vicious word to use when speaking about someone you are supposed to love and care about.
    Its up there as probably the worst, most horrible, vile word you can call a woman.

    I'd forgive a partner for losing his temper and calling me a myriad of other names in the heat of the moment, but not that one. It implies a lack of respect that you can't come back from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    It was the worst thing I've ever said to anyone. My only justification is I thought she was cheating. I know people are saying we were on a break but it didnt feel like a proper break. Especially when she was telling me we could pick back up whenever I was feeling better and she was still telling me she loved me. I wish I had never called her it. I don't want to lose this girl. But at the same time I feel like I deserve to lose her based on what I said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Its a really nasty, vicious word to use when speaking about someone you are supposed to love and care about.
    Its up there as probably the worst, most horrible, vile word you can call a woman.

    I'd forgive a partner for losing his temper and calling me a myriad of other names in the heat of the moment, but not that one. It implies a lack of respect that you can't come back from.

    Still getting caught up with one word when there are far more important matters.
    We all agree it's a nasty word. Depression causes people to do uncharacteristic things unfortunately. I think the OP has recognised what be did was wrong. Lambasting him for it is neither constructive or helpful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Its a really nasty, vicious word to use when speaking about someone you are supposed to love and care about.
    Its up there as probably the worst, most horrible, vile word you can call a woman.

    I'd forgive a partner for losing his temper and calling me a myriad of other names in the heat of the moment, but not that one. It implies a lack of respect that you can't come back from.

    It's interesting how the OP's GF going on POF behind his back after stating she would wait for him to address his issues and that she loved him, in her words, is being more or less overlooked here.

    That is emotional cheating. It's also a lack of respect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    It wasn't a nicest thing to do, seeing as she been telling you she loved you etc. but it does not mean she's a whore. Maybe it's because I'm a woman but the C word and Whore are one that get under my skin much more deeply than other swear words. I don't think I'd ever forgive anyone who called me either of those.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


    It's interesting how the OP's GF going on POF behind his back after stating she would wait for him to address his issues and that she loved him, in her words, is being more or less overlooked here.

    That is emotional cheating. It's also a lack of respect.

    Why shouldnt she date other people while she is "waiting" for him? He ended the relationship with her. She said she would wait for him to be well to pick up where they left off. So why can she not have some dates in that period in between while she is not seeing OP? Is she supposed to stay indoors and not live her life while she is waiting? I take waiting for someone to be well to mean that you are free until the two of you decide the relationship is back on again.

    It was the OP who chose to end the relationship and it was the OP who called someone he claims to love terrible names and it is the OP who thinks that she needs to take his mental health into consideration in how she behaves.

    In her shoes she was on a break and decided to have some dates and then called called a whore and a cheat for it. Completely over the top reaction and way out of order.

    If you are on a break you are entitled to live your life.

    Expressing anger with abusive names is never constructive.

    Lesson learned OP, time to move on and learn to manage your anger so that in the future you dont say things you cant come back from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    ....... wrote: »
    Why shouldnt she date other people while she is "waiting" for him? He ended the relationship with her. She said she would wait for him to be well to pick up where they left off. So why can she not have some dates in that period in between while she is not seeing OP? Is she supposed to stay indoors and not live her life while she is waiting? I take waiting for someone to be well to mean that you are free until the two of you decide the relationship is back on again.

    It was the OP who chose to end the relationship and it was the OP who called someone he claims to love terrible names and it is the OP who thinks that she needs to take his mental health into consideration in how she behaves.

    In her shoes she was on a break and decided to have some dates and then called called a whore and a cheat for it. Completely over the top reaction and way out of order.

    If you are on a break you are entitled to live your life.

    Expressing anger with abusive names is never constructive.

    Lesson learned OP, time to move on and learn to manage your anger so that in the future you dont say things you cant come back from.


    He didn't actually end the relationship, nor did she. They merely decided to take a 'break'.

    A break could be a month it could be a fortnight, we don't know only the OP does.

    And just because you decide to take a break, doesn't necessarily mean you're going to hop onto a dating site to seek validation just because you are feeling insecure about yourself.

    I could be wrong here but I'm guessing there was some proviso between both parties as to what their 'break' was going to entail. It's horses for courses at the end of the day, but only the OP knows.

    It's all rather irrelevant in any event, there is a big chance the OP's GF is more than likely not bothered about him because if she was completely devoted to him, she'd wait for him. The most pressing and important thing for the OP is to address his issues.

    And to the OP; a relatively nasty word said under the suffering of depression is not something you should feel guilty about. As stated earlier, depression can change people much the same as any illness can, there's good days and bad days.

    Seek the treatment you need, you have recognized the need to do so that's a great start and work from there.

    Best of luck OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    It was the worst thing I've ever said to anyone. My only justification is I thought she was cheating. I know people are saying we were on a break but it didnt feel like a proper break. Especially when she was telling me we could pick back up whenever I was feeling better and she was still telling me she loved me. I wish I had never called her it. I don't want to lose this girl. But at the same time I feel like I deserve to lose her based on what I said.

    Still making excuses....

    It doesn't matter what you thought, there is no justification for calling her that. It was probably the final straw for her.

    Depression can make you paranoid and skew your logic, it can make you irritable. Are you the type of person to lash out verbally everytime someone you love does something wrong or everytime you think they've done something wrong?

    I don't think she's coming back and tbh I think that's actually a good thing for you at the moment. Your focus needs to be on sorting out your mental health and that will be easier to do single.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Still making excuses....

    It doesn't matter what you thought, there is no justification for calling her that. It was probably the final straw for her.

    Depression can make you paranoid and skew your logic, it can make you irritable. Are you the type of person to lash out verbally everytime someone you love does something wrong or everytime you think they've done something wrong?

    I don't think she's coming back and tbh I think that's actually a good thing for you at the moment. Your focus needs to be on sorting out your mental health and that will be easier to do single.

    It is no excuse. I'm ashamed of what I said and wish I could turn back the clock. Have you ever said something in anger you wish you could back but you can't? I don't know what led her to do what she did when she was telling me such nice things only the night before and making promises to me. But I said what I said out of anger and heartbreak and now I must deal with the consequences of my actions. I have lost her. I don't see her coming back and this ending as some fairytale ending I always envisioned between us. And for that I don't think I can ever forgive myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    OP, as someone who has suffered very very badly from depression I know how selfish an illness it can be. You think the world centres around you so I have learnt over the years not to say what I'm thinking because I know it comes from a stupid idiotic selfish place.

    Over the years you will learn this. Okay, it's too late now. Don't try to justify what you called this girl, just accept that it was an accusation made in the height of your illness and learn from it for the next time that you're going through this.

    I genuinely wish you the very best of luck but you can't come back from this so move on and learn from it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    This is one of those Personal Issues where I'd love to read the ex's point of view. Break-ups can be messy, confusing affairs. Having been in an off-off relationship with someone with mental health problems, the girl's head may have been all over the place by the time she went on the dating website. For all we know, she'd decided the relationship was over when you were on the break and was afraid to say it out loud in case you became suicidal again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    And people wonder why or how there is stigma attached to depression and why people don't talk or seek help. Some of the opinions , complete lack of empathy or even basic comprehension of depression on this thread stink. And I'm not talking about feeling down now and again. It's like reading 3 pages from Dear Deirdre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Robocop Corcoran


    You shouldn't of needed to take a break at all, should she not be looking to support you in this tough period of your life? That's generally what partners do...

    Dont beat yourself up, you called her a whore, big deal. Shes on dating websites while you are crippled with depression. Is this girl supposed to love you?

    Id be ending things and concentrating on getting well if i were you. Best of luck.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    OP I think you seem to have a fair handle on how things happened here.

    Your depression was a factor in the relationship ending, but despite the thread title it is your behaviour that caused the damage. You seem to accept that and I hope you can move on in a healthy way for your own mental health and the management of it and your relationships in future. Best of luck.

    I don't know that I'd take relationship advice from the posters declaring it's ok/valid/justified to call your SO a whore, tbh. Well, i do know, but I hope you are able to see that type of posting for what it is- no good to you and no good for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭qwerty13


    You shouldn't of needed to take a break at all, should she not be looking to support you in this tough period of your life? That's generally what partners do...

    Dont beat yourself up, you called her a whore, big deal. Shes on dating websites while you are crippled with depression. Is this girl supposed to love you?

    Id be ending things and concentrating on getting well if i where you. Best of luck.

    Of course she should be trying to support him. That does not mean that he gets a free pass to be abusive though.

    We don’t know why she went on dating sites. But what we do know is that she was called a whore. There is no come back from that. It’s an utterly reprehensible thing to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Robocop Corcoran


    qwerty13 wrote: »
    Of course she should be trying to support him. That does not mean that he gets a free pass to be abusive though.

    We don’t know why she went on dating sites. But what we do know is that she was called a whore. There is no come back from that. It’s an utterly reprehensible thing to say.

    What do you mean we dont know why she went on a dating site? Cop onto yourself. Would you be ok with your partner going on a dating website.

    Calling her a whore is mild imo, it was a betrayal on a guy thats going through an extremely bad time.

    She's heartless, didnt give a fook who seen her on the website, Ops friends, family etc.

    Didnt care about the embarrassment that might cause him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    What do you mean we dont know why she went on a dating site? Cop onto yourself. Would you be ok with your partner going on a dating website.

    Calling her a whore is mild imo, it was a betrayal on a guy thats going through an extremely bad time.

    She's heartless.

    They were on a break, she didn’t cheat on anyone,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Robocop Corcoran


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    They were on a break, she didn’t cheat on anyone,

    Its emotional cheating, its the same thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Robocop Corcoran


    OP ignore people telling you there's no comeback after calling her a whore. Its BS , sticks and stones.

    Ive seen couples recover from a lot worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Unfortunately emotional intelligence is something that is strongly affected during depression. And something that is clearly lacking judging by some of the responses. It's shocking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Only the OP knows the full context of them being "on a break". I know if I was on a break with someone, be it a few weeks or months, I'd be devastated if they were dating/on dating sites. A break implies a reunion. If you're done with the relationship and want to date someone else, do the decent thing and end it completely.

    We all do and say stupid things, calling her a whore obviously isn't on. Some people have a higher tolerance as to what they'll accept in a row but the likes of whore, c**t, and a few words are usually off limits, and with good reason.

    Move on and look after yourself. Nothing you can do is likely to bring this girl back to you no matter how sorry you are, she was likely past that point before your row, never mind after it.

    You will get over it, it just takes time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    Its emotional cheating, its the same thing.

    Their relationship was on a break. They weren’t together. They were not at that time in a relationship with each other.
    She didn’t cheat on him, emotionally or physically.

    And regardless, it’s no justification of using a word like that.
    According to a quick google search, the dictionary describes it as meaning Prostitute, Sex Worker, Sl*t, amongst others.
    That is a truly disgusting thing to call someone you claim to love and respect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Just to be clear I'm not trying to excuse myself for what I said. I'm sure quite a few people here have painted a picture of me as this horrible, cruel guy. That's not me. It's never been me. It was a deplorable thing to say, but I made a mistake based on the thoughts that were racing through my head when I was sent those pictures of the woman I love on a dating site just a mere 24 hours after being told by her she loved me as she kissed me. I have been playing that conversation over and over in my head since the moment it happened wishing it had never occured.

    Last year she did the same to me. Not the nasty words, but wanted to take a break because she was going through a rough patch. Things stayed great between us during that time. We dated, told one another we loved eachother, slept together, stayed together. All that was missing was the title of boyfriend/girlfriend. But she asked me to be patient and I was. I didn't dream of going on a dating site back then because I was loyal to her even though we weren't technically an item.

    I'm truly sorry for my actions but I don't want to give up on this girl yet. Things are really sh!try right now but despite everything I'd like to fix it, I just don't know how or if that's possible. I don't want to look back in 5 years and think what could have been.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Robocop Corcoran


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Their relationship was on a break. They weren’t together. They were not at that time in a relationship with each other.
    She didn’t cheat on him, emotionally or physically.

    And regardless, it’s no justification of using a word like that.
    According to a quick google search, the dictionary describes it as meaning Prostitute, Sex Worker, Sl*t, amongst others.
    That is a truly disgusting thing to call someone you claim to love and respect.

    And what about the respect the op should of been shown by someone who claims to love him?

    They where on a break, that could mean anything but it implies that they will reunite at some stage.

    Shes straight onto a dating website, that tells me all i need to know about her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    So she’s a whore, eh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Robocop Corcoran


    So she’s a whore, eh?

    I would of called her a whore aswell if i was the op, that doesnt mean i actually think she is a whore.

    People can say horrible things when they are hurt, add in the ops fragile state of mind.

    She may not be a whore but shes obviously pretty desperate for attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    I think there are two sides in this argument. Those who understand depression, and those who don't. Those who don't are more strung up on the use of a word than giving impartial and helpful advice to someone who is extremely fragile. It's actually very dangerous.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    albeit i agree that the OP and his ex would need to tell us their understanding of things, being on a break is essentially breaking up with the notion of getting back together at some stage

    if you think being on a break means you retain full relationship rights youve a strange idea of it.

    that said, its a fairly strange concept anyway. break up or dont.

    but regardless, she didn't cheat and even if emotional cheating meant anything in context it wouldnt apply. they werent in a relationship at the time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Id of called her a whore aswell if i was the op, that doesnt mean i actually think she is a whore.

    What does "id of" mean? It's not a phrase I'm familiar with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    Hoboo wrote: »
    I think there are two sides in this argument. Those who understand depression, and those who don't. Those who don't are more strung up on the use of a word than giving impartial and helpful advice to someone who is extremely fragile. It's actually very dangerous.

    My ex partner of many years had depression and as someone who tried to love and support someone through their illness, it’s very clear here that OPs girlfriend has been suffering as much as he has, but in a different way.

    His condition is a mitigating factor but not a excuse to treat his girlfriend in such a horrible way.

    To be honest it sounds like she’s as confused and hurt as he is, for her own reasons.
    Which are just as legitimate and relevant as OPs are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Robocop Corcoran


    What does "id of" mean? It's not a phrase I'm familiar with.

    The op knows what i mean thats all that counts.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hoboo wrote: »
    I think there are two sides in this argument. Those who understand depression, and those who don't. Those who don't are more strung up on the use of a word than giving impartial and helpful advice to someone who is extremely fragile. It's actually very dangerous.

    strongly disagree

    good relationship advice is dont call her a whore

    good mental health advice is do what you need to do to take ownership of your own mental health. its not your partner's responsibility to either do so or to bear the brunt of his condition and its unhealthy to outsource that function, both for the individuals involved and for a relationship

    plenty of people understand depression some will agree on various things some wont. its fallacious and insulting for you to claim ownership of any universal truths around it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    That's why I said earlier that I'd love to hear the girlfriend's side of the story. What she was put through by being with a guy with depression and suicidal thoughts. Where was her head at by the time they reached this break?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Robocop Corcoran


    qwerty13 wrote: »
    Of course she should be trying to support him.

    By going on a dating website and embarrassing an unwell man that she loves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Hoboo wrote: »
    I think there are two sides in this argument. Those who understand depression, and those who don't. Those who don't are more strung up on the use of a word than giving impartial and helpful advice to someone who is extremely fragile. It's actually very dangerous.

    My ex partner of many years had depression and as someone who tried to love and support someone through their illness, it’s very clear here that OPs girlfriend has been suffering as much as he has, but in a different way.

    His condition is a mitigating factor but not a excuse to treat his girlfriend in such a horrible way.

    To be honest it sounds like she’s as confused and hurt as he is, for her own reasons.
    Which are just as legitimate and relevant as OPs are.

    He knows this. He knows what he did was wrong. Telling him so won't help his suicidal thoughts in any way. Mitigating factor? It's the only factor. He said something in the heat of the moment due to a breakdown in his ability to control his emotion, awareness of others, and abilty to manage interpersonal relationships. That is emotional intelligence, it's one of the major outcomes from depression. It's not a choice.

    You can harp on about him using foul language, which we all.including the OP agree was wrong, but try to have some empathy towards him, if you truly understand depression.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    strongly disagree

    good relationship advice is dont call her a whore

    good mental health advice is do what you need to do to take ownership of your own mental health. its not your partner's responsibility to either do so or to bear the brunt of his condition and its unhealthy to outsource that function, both for the individuals involved and for a relationship

    plenty of people understand depression some will agree on various things some wont. its fallacious and insulting for you to claim ownership of any universal truths around it.

    OP recognises he shouldn't have called her a whore so telling him not to is hardly good relationship advice. That's lazy advice.

    Good mental health advice is to confide in your partner, friend, or family member, and ask for their help to support you in seeking professional guidance and treatment. Taking ownership is one part, and one which most do naturally. The OP displayed this by going on a break. He removed her from the situation.

    If my partner ever came to me with a mental health concern I would take full responsibility to help her get every support and treatment she needs.

    I never claimed to be.the holy grail.of depession, but it's very easy to spot those who think they understand it, and those that actually do. You're 'advice' places you firmly in the dear Deirdre category. Dangerous and unhelpful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,711 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Taking a break from the whole relationship to let OP get a handle on himself was fatal. Thats not how lasting loving relationships are built, you deal with the s**t together, the same way as the joy. Use of the phrase 'to pick up where we left off' shows some serious naivety also about the nature of things.

    She shouldn't have gone on a dating site, you shouldn't have called her a whore for it, but really neither is that relevant, far more fundamental things ended your would-be relationship.

    As someone who has had periods like the OP describes in my life, its not every sort of person is able to be that persons partner. Those that can't easily deal with it don't deserve to be put through it, if you see what i mean. She will not come back to you, so give both of you a break and stop your efforts to contact her. That energy should be focussed on the improvement of your health.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Mod note:

    There has been a lot of off-topic discussion recently between posters. Please only post if you have constructive advice directed at the OP.

    FYI I've approved a new post by the OP (#36) acknowledging that he made a mistake and looking for advice about how to fix it, if it’s possible. So let’s focus on that and have less nit picking of other posts.


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